IN - Couple charged with abandonment of adopted child after legally changing her age, Sept 2019 #2 *not guilty*

[jjenny]

And forget their native language easily if not spoken at home.

It's a trade off. Young children learn new language easily but also easily forget their native language. Older people can't learn the new language as easily, it's a lot harder for them to lose an accent, but they remember their native language. N's having perfect English and not remembering her native language is perfectly consistent with her coming to US as a young child.

 

[kaen]

In listening to the DuPaul's interview, my heart breaks that they could not adopt Natalia. She would have had people who understood her struggles and would have made sure she had sufficient life skills to survive when the time came for her to move out. This child has missed so many opportunities. She appears to be a great kid now and I can't help but think how much more enriched her life would have been.


From an Inside Edition interview with the DuPauls:

"If me or my wife tried to push someone into an electric fence, it wouldn't go that well," Vincent said. "Imagine someone who's struggling to walk pushing an average size woman into a fence. It's ludicrous."

The Barnetts reportedly had Natalia's birth year legally changed from 2003 to 1989 two years after they adopted her. The Barnetts then moved as a family to Canada, and when they left Natalia in Indiana, they prepaid the rent on her apartment for one year and signed her up for social welfare programs, Michael said. After being charged with felony neglect of a dependent, the Barnetts pleaded not guilty.

Even though the Barnetts say they set Natalia up in her own apartment, the DePauls said that wasn't enough, explaining that she would need a home with a custom layout to accommodate for her dwarfism.

Couple Who Hoped to Adopt Ukrainian Orphan 'Shocked' People Think She's an Adult Posing as Child

 

[MissA2]

Natalia Grace is cute as a button.

 

[MissA2]

In listening to the DuPaul's interview, my heart breaks that they could not adopt Natalia. She would have had people who understood her struggles and would have made sure she had sufficient life skills to survive when the time came for her to move out. This child has missed so many opportunities. She appears to be a great kid now and I can't help but think how much more enriched her life would have been.


From an Inside Edition interview with the DuPauls:

"If me or my wife tried to push someone into an electric fence, it wouldn't go that well," Vincent said. "Imagine someone who's struggling to walk pushing an average size woman into a fence. It's ludicrous."

The Barnetts reportedly had Natalia's birth year legally changed from 2003 to 1989 two years after they adopted her. The Barnetts then moved as a family to Canada, and when they left Natalia in Indiana, they prepaid the rent on her apartment for one year and signed her up for social welfare programs, Michael said. After being charged with felony neglect of a dependent, the Barnetts pleaded not guilty.

Even though the Barnetts say they set Natalia up in her own apartment, the DePauls said that wasn't enough, explaining that she would need a home with a custom layout to accommodate for her dwarfism.

Couple Who Hoped to Adopt Ukrainian Orphan 'Shocked' People Think She's an Adult Posing as Child

They did pay for it out of their own money. They got almost $1,000 a month for her.

 

[kaen]

They did pay for it out of their own money. They got almost $1,000 a month for her.

Maybe their own money but the apartment was not adjusted for her height or disability.

 

[jjenny]

Even if it were adjusted, it wouldn't be o'key to leave a 9 year old child (which is what her original birth certificate says) in the apartment all by herself.

 

[jjenny]

You really have to turn yourself in knots to make this remotely believable. The not speaking Ukranian thing is baffling too. Firstly Mykolaiv is in the Russian speaking part of Ukraine. They know her place of birth but didnt look up anything about the place their daughter was born?? Part of their petition to change her age cited Ukraine not having reliable records but now they suggest she isnt from Ukraine anyway? But she found a woman in Ukraine who looks just like her to pretend to be her mother and go along with it?

The first couple who adopted her actually visited her in Ukraine, according to what N. said on Dr. Phil. With international adoption, couples are usually required to visit.

 

[Meloni88]

Actually SED instead of DTD is one of the least goofy things I find about that Dr's letter. At least they are both types of dwarfism.

Lol maybe. Still demonstrates a lack of care and attention to detail. I'll give a little leeway and say mistaking a mild form of DTD for SED at first glance wouldnt be terrible but mistaking a severe case of DTD for SED is ridiculous especially someone claiming to be her primary care doctor for years.

She was locked up when they portioned the court. New family spokesperson confirmed.

Do you have a link? Who is the spokesperson?

 

[Meloni88]

Probably because psychopathic con artist sounds better than schizophrenic con artist.

Right. Would probably be impossible to be a successful con artist and a schizophrenic.

 

[Meloni88]

That’s horrible. Poor little girl. She must’ve been so confused and so resigned.

I teared up when she recounted that. I think she was so desperate to be accepted and please her "mom" she would do anything Kristine told her to do even though it seemed crazy and self destructive and terrifying. She tried so hard to break this girl.

 

[Errrr]

I don’t know about that but she was a kid at the time. Around 9-10? So she wouldn’t have the faintest idea how to get representation and file an objection.

A court appointed attorney should’ve represented her interests in that proceeding.

Apparently there was one for the second proceeding in 2016 but he couldn’t make headway because the court wasn’t going to challenge the first determination.

Apparently she was 22 though. I guess everyone was corrupt, not just the Barnett’s.

 

[Errrr]

That's the thing with children moving to a new country. They learn new language really well but they would forget their native language easily, especially if it's not spoken at home (which would obviously be the case with N). So her not speaking her native language (whether it would be Russian or Ukrainian) would be consistent with her moving to US as a young child.

I was wondering if they know which orphanage she was in. There is one run by Irish which seems to operate in English. I wonder if she was there?

 

[Errrr]

Makes me jelly of kids that way.

how do you know the investigator died?

I read it in the previous thread.

 

[gitana1]

Natalia Grace is cute as a button.

She has a YouTube account where she talks.

 

[Errrr]

I still can't get over Dr McLaren diagnosing her with the wrong type of dwarfism. We'd all been talking about her having SED because of his letter so I didn't really look into it but he couldn't even get that part right. The three most common forms of dwarfism are achondroplasia, spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia congenita (SED), and diastrophic dysplasia (DTD) and they all have very distinct features. Looking over the actual diagnostic criteria she has all the classic signs of DTD, not SED. There's no excuse for that mistake. Did he win his medical license in a raffle?? Or did he just never actually see her in person??

Looks like websleuths does better research than he does.

 

[jjenny]

I was wondering if they know which orphanage she was in. There is one run by Irish which seems to operate in English. I wonder if she was there?

The first couple who adopted her would know what orphanage she was in, since they reportedly visited her there. But they haven't talked to the media. They manged to give her up without making her into an adult.

 

[jjenny]

Right. Would probably be impossible to be a successful con artist and a schizophrenic.

It's be pretty hard. Delusions, hallucinations and disorganized thinking/speech don't go well with being a successful con artist. Petition claims N. actually was diagnosed with schizophrenia? She seems to show no signs of that.

 

[MissA2]

She has a YouTube account where she talks.

Link?

 

[MissA2]

It's be pretty hard. Delusions, hallucinations and disorganized thinking/speech don't go well with being a successful con artist. Petition claims N. actually was diagnosed with schizophrenia? She seems to show no signs of that.

Don’t tell this to the nay sayers.

 

[MissA2]

It's be pretty hard. Delusions, hallucinations and disorganized thinking/speech don't go well with being a successful con artist. Petition claims N. actually was diagnosed with schizophrenia? She seems to show no signs of that.

THIS!!!! This!!!