IN - Couple charged with abandonment of adopted child after legally changing her age, Sept 2019

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Lastly, it is important that this child get access to her Certificate of Citizenship, if she does not/has not already been given it, especially since the Indiana family who abandoned her and changed her age abandoned her. If she ever winds up in trouble with the law in this country or wants to work, she will need her paperwork set up properly and have copies that she can keep going forward. Adoptees with uncompleted citizenship paperwork or questionable paperwork have been deported from this country when they had run ins with the law-- many of whom were adopted as tiny babies and never learned the language of their home country but were sent back to that country with no support systems (Deportation a ‘Death Sentence’ to Adoptees After a Lifetime in the U.S.). This young woman has a disability that may make any transition to her home country impossible if she is deported.

Nearly all Ukrainian adoptions are done with two trips, resulting in an IR-3 visa which grants immediate citizenship as soon as the child arrives on US soil. The COC is issued automatically. If the parents did not make a trip to meet and interact with the child prior to court in the Ukraine, the child would come in on an IR-4 visa. For citizenship, parents are required to complete a “readoption” in the US. (We’ve adopted two kids, we be came in on an IR-3, the other an IR-4.) If she came in on the IR-3, she has no worries of deportation. (Unless she falsified documents and came on false pretenses.) If she came in the IR-4 and her adoptive parents completed a readoption in the US, she, again, has no fear of deportation.
 
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Nearly all Ukrainian adoptions are done with two trips, resulting in an IR-3 visa which grants immediate citizenship as soon as the child arrives on US soil. The COC is issued automatically. If the parents did not make a trip to meet and interact with the child prior to court in the Ukraine, the child would come in on an IR-4 visa. For citizenship, parents are required to complete a “readoption” in the US. (We’ve adopted two kids, we be came in on an IR-3, the other an IR-4.) If she came in on the IR-3, she has no worries of deportation. (Unless she falsified documents and came on false pretenses.) If she came in the IR-4 and her adoptive parents completed a readoption in the US, she, again, has no fear of deportation.

It is the IH4 or IR4 that would be concerning since she seems to have changed hands a number of times. I wonder if anyone completed the readoption process.
 
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It is the IH4 or IR4 that would be concerning since she seems to have changed hands a number of times. I wonder if anyone completed the readoption process.

When her age was changed by the Barnetts was her adoption with them final?
 
  • #244
When her age was changed by the Barnetts was her adoption with them final?
That is the big question. Did any of the families who had custody finalize her adoption and apply for her CoCitizenship? It is very possible that someone did but the cost is a lot and should be issued in her current name.
 
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Nearly all Ukrainian adoptions are done with two trips, resulting in an IR-3 visa which grants immediate citizenship as soon as the child arrives on US soil. The COC is issued automatically. If the parents did not make a trip to meet and interact with the child prior to court in the Ukraine, the child would come in on an IR-4 visa. For citizenship, parents are required to complete a “readoption” in the US. (We’ve adopted two kids, we be came in on an IR-3, the other an IR-4.) If she came in on the IR-3, she has no worries of deportation. (Unless she falsified documents and came on false pretenses.) If she came in the IR-4 and her adoptive parents completed a readoption in the US, she, again, has no fear of deportation.

One of my kids was given an 1R-4 mistakenly and we did not know --our agency screwed up and we had done the two trips. We lived in a state that did not require readoption. So, we found out in a backwards way that he was not a citizen and this was post auto citizenship. We had been waiting and waiting for the CoC.
 
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That is the big question. Did any of the families who had custody finalize her adoption and apply for her CoCitizenship? It is very possible that someone did but the cost is a lot and should be issued in her current name.

How would that work with changing the age of a kid? I would think if you suspected a scam you would report it. Especially, when you are making money talking and writing about parenting. It seems like something that would sell another book. Can you petition for an age change for someone you might only be a temporary guardian for? That sounds like a way to dodge the responsibility of a child that you are tired of. moo
 
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Adoptive parents of Ukranian girl with dwarfism appear in court | Daily Mail Online

In what could be a critical factor in the case, prosecutor Jackie Starbuck told the court that the Indiana criminal neglect code can apply to people of any age who are mentally or physically disabled.

'I just want to put that on the record,' she said. 'There are two different definitions of a dependent, either a disabled person or a child.'

Starbuck also questioned Kristine Barnett as to why she did not arrive in court with an attorney.

'They have another court date. I just retained him yesterday,' the platinum-blonde defendant replied.
 
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Adoptive parents of Ukranian girl with dwarfism appear in court | Daily Mail Online

In what could be a critical factor in the case, prosecutor Jackie Starbuck told the court that the Indiana criminal neglect code can apply to people of any age who are mentally or physically disabled.

'I just want to put that on the record,' she said. 'There are two different definitions of a dependent, either a disabled person or a child.'

Starbuck also questioned Kristine Barnett as to why she did not arrive in court with an attorney.

'They have another court date. I just retained him yesterday,' the platinum-blonde defendant replied.

Age may not be a determining factor in this case. Off to do more investigating on her medical condition now.
 
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Age may not be a determining factor in this case. Off to do more investigating on her medical condition now.

It is generally acknowledged that she has physical limitations.

The Barnetts alone state that she has severe emotional problems!

I really do appreciate the court's officer pointing out that they may have abandoned a dependent adult!
 
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Adoptive parents of Ukranian girl with dwarfism appear in court | Daily Mail Online

In what could be a critical factor in the case, prosecutor Jackie Starbuck told the court that the Indiana criminal neglect code can apply to people of any age who are mentally or physically disabled.

'I just want to put that on the record,' she said. 'There are two different definitions of a dependent, either a disabled person or a child.'

Starbuck also questioned Kristine Barnett as to why she did not arrive in court with an attorney.

'They have another court date. I just retained him yesterday,' the platinum-blonde defendant replied.
Wow. Nothing like waiting till the last minute to get a lawyer,and expect the court to bend over backwards to accommodate.
MOO.
 
  • #254
images

"A picture is worth a thousand words"
Age Progression pics
 
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I am an adoptive parent who has known a myriad of other adoptive parents. When one adopts a child who is older, there are often social/emotional/educational/physical issues that are present for a large variety of reasons-- abandonment, poor maternal health while in utero, alcohol/drug exposure in utero, orphanage neglect/abuse, lack of nourishment, and much more. The reason that adoptions often take longer than any parent wants is to ensure full knowledge (as much as one can) and to vette/educate the adoptive parents on issues related to older child adoptions.

This child was adopted in the country of her birth and had to be identified by the US government as qualified for the VISA in which she travelled. Someone relinquished her in the US. It is not uncommon for people to create private rehoming deals based on "behavior." Often the families that rush to adoption, especially of special needs children, are on a mission to save an orphan. However, the work of bonding with a young child who has had relationships interrupted or who have been institutional care is difficult work that requires time, commitment, and is often not easily done with other special needs children in the home. Don't get me wrong, I know lots of families who have been successful. However, the secret rehoming network that exists out there is frightening because these children become disappeared-- the immediate family is relieved to have them gone, the extended family does not necessarily feel compelled to stay in touch--- so, who watches for these kids? The answer is no one does. There are many stories of children in these situations being murdered, raped, physically abused. So, in that sense, this girl is very lucky-- she was rehomed not once but twice with the second rehoming resulting in her living in an apartment alone. Thank goodness for the family that has fought hard to adopt/care for her. She is at great risk for doing all kinds of negative social behavior based on her history of abandonment but they seem committed to giving her the best that they can.

The Indiana woman in this case had made a living and public airing of her older son's disability. I doubt that there was ever a need for an emergency adoption. Why? Because this child would have been placed in Foster Care if a suitable home was not found. The family who had custody would have some legal issues but it could have been handled by the courts and a foster placement or respite care plan could have been made. I am interested to here the facts behind an emergency adoption.

I will conjecture (as in IMHO) a couple of things based on my experiences:
1. Child was abandoned by first adoptive family, not long after getting here. She may have had behavioral issues that were not disclosed to the second family to adopt her.
2. The agency who had facilitated realized that if the home country found out this child was abandoned that they would risk limited or non-existent referrals in the future (adoptive families don't like to wait). Many agencies provide child updates in the home country or in some cases it is legally required and part of the home country's adoption procedures.
3. (IIRC) This child was abandoned a second time which would really create red flags in the home country and possibly the state in which the child resided for the agency who is supposed to insure child safety. All agencies need to be licensed in their home state, so which agency/agencies did the first, second, and third placement (with the Indiana family?. Was the third adoption to the family in Indiana done through an agency or attorney (both would require a home study and post-placement reporting for the 90 days post-adoption in FL)? Where are the home studies? Where is the paper trail of this child?

Lastly, it is important that this child get access to her Certificate of Citizenship, if she does not/has not already been given it, especially since the Indiana family who abandoned her and changed her age abandoned her. If she ever winds up in trouble with the law in this country or wants to work, she will need her paperwork set up properly and have copies that she can keep going forward. Adoptees with uncompleted citizenship paperwork or questionable paperwork have been deported from this country when they had run ins with the law-- many of whom were adopted as tiny babies and never learned the language of their home country but were sent back to that country with no support systems (Deportation a ‘Death Sentence’ to Adoptees After a Lifetime in the U.S.). This young woman has a disability that may make any transition to her home country impossible if she is deported.
 
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It seems there’s serious concerns that she was NOT originally adopted from the Ukraine.
 
  • #257
Maybe it’s just me, but if these two really believed she was a serious danger, how do they just drop her off in an apartment house like that? Oh, are they just going to let her kill other people who have no clue that she is a psychopathic killer straight out of “Orphan”?
 
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Sniped from various articles.



Kristine Barnett told the Daily Mail they helped her get a Social Security number and apply for food stamps and other benefits. When the girl was kicked out of a facility overseen by a state health care provider, Barnett says they helped secure housing for her in Lafayette.

The girl initially attended classes at the Lafayette Adult Resource Academy, but, WLFI has learned, she stopped going to the school and in 2014 was evicted from her apartment.

Barnett said, “I am dismayed by the way that our mental health system treats people,” she said. “The state of Indiana actually discharged (her) into a halfway house over a year before this, making her homeless" -

The Barnett’s then rented her the apartment
 
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Maybe it’s just me, but if these two really believed she was a serious danger, how do they just drop her off in an apartment house like that? Oh, are they just going to let her kill other people who have no clue that she is a psychopathic killer straight out of “Orphan”?

They didn’t just drop her off. In my opinion, they went above and beyond.
She’s an adult - You think keeping her & endangering their children would be a better idea?
 
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images

"A picture is worth a thousand words"
Age Progression pics

That picture from 2012 with the long hair, oh my God, that is a CHILD. And those pictures from recent years... it's so clear that these people discarded a child, a minor, like trash. Thanks for making this post.
 
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