GUILTY IN - DARREN DEON VANN, 43, Gary, body count at seven, more expected

[Yoda]

It makes me sad when bodies turn up of missing people and we never had a thread for them here. RIP Teaira and Christine

I posted the same time as you asked that only one was reported missing.

 

[Yoda]

New location- cherry point. nc

Records show he was arrested on unspecified charges while living in Cherry Point, North Carolina, in 1993.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/20/us/indiana-possible-serial-killer-suspect/index.html

 

[Starry Night]

Ok.......I have a MAJOR request Bessie/Mods.
I just now noticed that this case is listed under 'Serial Killers' here on Websleuths. This case is not getting the attention it needs-it's too obscured via category. I implore you to move this thread into at least 'current crimes'.
Pretty please with sugar on it?
I have been bewildered as to why this case is all over headlines on every major news site but here on WS it ranks very low in user count. There are so many people involved and this is going to break wide open. I am wondering a bit about his background and timelines/geography/career history etc.
Thanks in advance for any consideration.
Respectfully,
Starry

 

[bessie]

That makes sense. Also, could it be that they wanted to get some unbiased opinions, expressed without being colored by: "He's in trouble. I've got to stand up for him." Or, "I always knew he was a rotten no-good so-and-so."

Sure. That certainly was a possibility once it became known he was suspected of multiple murders.

 

[iamnotagolem]

I posted the same time as you asked that only one was reported missing.

Did the family not report them missing or police never filed a missing persons case??? The below article makes it sound like the mom of Teaira reported her missing.



28-year-old Teaira Batey was among the bodies found over the weekend in an abandon home in Gary. She went missing in January. Her mother Gloria Cullom said she was mentally disabled. She calls her a sweet person who trusted everyone.

Gloria Cullom says she never felt like detectives were focusing properly on the case of her missing daughter. They put her off, she says, and barely responded to her inquiries over the months.

http://wgntv.com/2014/10/20/mother-of-one-indiana-victim-says-she-trusted-everyone/

 

[Yoda]

Ok.......I have a MAJOR request Bessie/Mods.
I just now noticed that this case is listed under 'Serial Killers' here on Websleuths. This case is not getting the attention it needs-it's too obscured via category. I implore you to move this thread into at least 'current crimes'.
Pretty please with sugar on it?
I have been bewildered as to why this case is all over headlines on every major news sight but here on WS it ranks very low in user count. There are so many people involved and this is going to break wide open. I am wondering a bit about his background and timelines/geography/career history etc.
Thanks in advance for any consideration.
Respectfully,
Starry

i agree. Took me a while to find it today.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Ok.......I have a MAJOR request Bessie/Mods.
I just now noticed that this case is listed under 'Serial Killers' here on Websleuths. This case is not getting the attention it needs-it's too obscured via category. I implore you to move this thread into at least 'current crimes'.
Pretty please with sugar on it?
I have been bewildered as to why this case is all over headlines on every major news sight but here on WS it ranks very low in user count. There are so many people involved and this is going to break wide open. I am wondering a bit about his background and timelines/geography/career history etc.
Thanks in advance for any consideration.
Respectfully,
Starry

I started a thread there this morning b/c I couldn't find this one until I was googling to add more info I finally found this thread in a google search (then had the mods delete after I found this one). I thought it would have been under up to the minute in current events. I wonder if we could just have a link over there to direct traffic over here.

 

[bessie]

Ok.......I have a MAJOR request Bessie/Mods.
I just now noticed that this case is listed under 'Serial Killers' here on Websleuths. This case is not getting the attention it needs-it's too obscured via category. I implore you to move this thread into at least 'current crimes'.
Pretty please with sugar on it?
I have been bewildered as to why this case is all over headlines on every major news sight but here on WS it ranks very low in user count. There are so many people involved and this is going to break wide open. I am wondering a bit about his background and timelines/geography/career history etc.
Thanks in advance for any consideration.
Respectfully,
Starry

Thanks, Starry. Your suggestion is noted and appreciated. At this time, however, the thread will remain in the SK forum. This is where members look for threads about -- well -- serial killers. Any change will depend on the amount of information released in the near future. In the meantime, there's nothing preventing us from sleuthing the heck out of him.

 

[Yoda]

He was a former marine

For 16 years, Darren Vann was married to a woman 29 years his senior — a relationship that soured after he began going to nightclubs without her, his now ex-wife told the Chicago Sun-Times Monday.

http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/ch...by-accusation-says-he-always-took-care-of-me/

 

[Starry Night]

Thanks, Starry. Your suggestion is noted and appreciated. At this time, however, the thread will remain in the SK forum. This is where members look for threads about -- well -- serial killers. Any change will depend on the amount of information released in the near future. In the meantime, there's nothing preventing us from sleuthing the heck out of him.

With all due respect Bessie-even the detectives hesitated to call him a serial killer, much less name him.

Edited to add: Thanks millions for your encouraging, positive, compassionate statement.
BBM

 

[Starry Night]

He was a former marine



http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/ch...by-accusation-says-he-always-took-care-of-me/

This is crazy!

I feel for this lady.

 

[Yoda]

According to the suntimes article he moved from Hammond to Austin and back because he was following his wife.
1993 Cherry Point NC , unknown arrest
???? Met wife In Hammond
1995 Austin TX, married wife
???? Left marine corp
???? Unknown dates in Austin, worked security guard and cleaning labs
2000 Split from wife, followed her to Hammond, worked in Casino doing housekeeping
2004 Lake County Indiana, accused of breaking and entering and intimidation
2006 Moved to Austin TX
2007 charged with sexual assault Austin tx
2009- July 2013 prison Austin tx

2014 lives with brother, borrowed sisters car on night of Ms Hardy's murder.

Oct 17, 2014 Afrikka Hardy, 19, was found at 9:30 p.m. Friday in Hammond, Ind., at a Motel 6, located in the 3800-block of 179th Street.
Oct 18, 2014 On Saturday at 11:20 p.m., the body of Anith Jones, 35, of Merrillville, was found in the 400-block of East 43rd Avenue. She was reported missing on October 8.
Oct 19, 2014. Early Sunday, the body of Teaira Batey, 28, of Gary, was found in an abandoned home in the 1800-block of East 19th Avenue. She was reported missing in late January, according to her boyfriend, Marvin Clinton.
Oct 19, 2014. Sunday evening, the body of Christine Williams, 26, was found in the 4300-block of Massachusetts Street.
Oct19,2014. Another victim, still unidentified, was also found in the 2200-block of Massachusetts Street.
Oct 19,2014. Hours later, two more bodies were found in the 400-block of east 43rd Avenue. They have not been identified.


http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/ch...by-accusation-says-he-always-took-care-of-me/

http://abc7chicago.com/news/alleged-serial-killer-identified-as-darren-deon-vann/357605/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lling-seven-women-20-years.html#ixzz3GkgVrPEg

 

[bessie]

'He was strange, he was weird': Suspected Indiana serial killer's marriage to a woman 29 years older than him revealed as he's accused of killing seven women over 20 years
By Daniel Bates for MailOnline and Kieran Corcoran and Associated Press
Published: 19:46 EST, 20 October 2014 | Updated: 21:26 EST, 20 October 2014

MailOnline can reveal that Vann used to be married to a woman 29 years his senior - now 72. He has also been described as 'weird' and 'strange' by that woman's son, who says Vann would often talk to himself and had other suspicious habits.

[...]
As the new details came to light today, MailOnline uncovered Vann's older ex-wife, 72-year-old Maria Vann, who distanced herself completely from his actions. Ms Vann, a mother of three, married Vann even though he is young enough to be her son. Reached by phone she said: 'I'm tired of talking about this. Darren Vann was my ex-husband. I'm fed up with this.

'It's been six years, he was in jail. I don't want to talk about it'. Public records show she filed for divorce in August 2009, due to 'irretrievable breakdown' and it was finalized the following year.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lling-seven-women-20-years.html#ixzz3GkgVrPEg

 

[Starry Night]

New location- cherry point. nc


http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/20/us/indiana-possible-serial-killer-suspect/index.html

"Though they had no children together, the woman said Vann was “very protective” of the goddaughter who lived with the couple."

What the heck does she mean by 'goddaughter'????

 

[bessie]

Suspect in Indiana serial killings has violent past
Chicago Tribune October 20, 2014

[...]

Indiana court records show Vann was arrested in April 2004 and charged with residential entry and intimidation stemming from an incident in Gary. Police alleged he threatened to kill a man in a wheelchair over an alleged $7,000 debt that Vann believed he was owed by his ex-girlfriend, who was then living with the man, court records show.

According to court filings in that case, the victim told police he saw Vann approaching his house carrying a red plastic gas can. The man told police he confronted Vann and asked him why he wanted to "burn my family, innocent people over a woman?"

Vann replied, "Give me $7,000 and you can have her," according to the filing. Vann also told the man that he had dynamite and would blow him up if he didn't give up the woman, court records show.

When police arrived Vann was "holding a cigarette lighter and was acting crazy as if he might light himself on fire," court records show.

 

[mayqueen]

For 16 years, Darren Vann was married to a woman 29 years his senior — a relationship that soured after he began going to nightclubs without her, his now ex-wife told the Chicago Sun-Times Monday.

http://breakingnews.suntimes.com/ch...by-accusation-says-he-always-took-care-of-me/

I noticed the age difference on the marriage record on Ancestry... I actually thought it could be a transcription error, since it was such a large gap. (Nothing wrong with that, for the record! It's just not something I see everyday when sleuthing or doing genealogy.) I wonder how they met?

This explains the back and forth between IN and TX I mentioned in a previous post:

The woman said the relationship soured around 2000 because “we just weren’t compatible” and because Vann had started going to nightclubs with buddies, she said.

That same year, the woman moved back to Indiana. Vann followed his wife back to Indiana, she said. While there, Vann worked at a casino, doing housekeeping, she said.

Then in 2006, the woman moved back to Texas. Vann followed, she said.

“He said he wanted this marriage to work,” the woman recalled. “I said, ‘I want my freedom.'”​

 

[oldwindow]

I need for somebody a lot smarter than me to explain something. Last Friday is when all of this started. They picked this guy up shortly after the girl was killed in the motel. All weekend long......and even part of today , all they would say is they had a suspect in custody. They wouldn't release his name, wouldn't identify him, and on and on it went for the last 3 days. Every media report I saw said they had a suspect in custody, but the cops wouldn't identify him.

Even after the bodies started stacking up down at the coroners office............they still wouldn't I.D. him.

And the point of this secrecy is........????????????????

He was connected to something bigger. Fbi wanted run a back ground check on him

 

[Starry Night]

He was connected to something bigger. Fbi wanted run a back ground check on him

Lol. Then NAME him for gosh sake.

 

[mayqueen]

Suspect in Indiana serial killings has violent past
Chicago Tribune October 20, 2014

[...]

Indiana court records show Vann was arrested in April 2004 and charged with residential entry and intimidation stemming from an incident in Gary. Police alleged he threatened to kill a man in a wheelchair over an alleged $7,000 debt that Vann believed he was owed by his ex-girlfriend, who was then living with the man, court records show.

According to court filings in that case, the victim told police he saw Vann approaching his house carrying a red plastic gas can. The man told police he confronted Vann and asked him why he wanted to "burn my family, innocent people over a woman?"

Vann replied, "Give me $7,000 and you can have her," according to the filing. Vann also told the man that he had dynamite and would blow him up if he didn't give up the woman, court records show.

When police arrived Vann was "holding a cigarette lighter and was acting crazy as if he might light himself on fire," court records show.

Wow. That is some seriously aggressive and unstable behavior.

This is crazy, y'all. The articles are being published fast and furious now, I can hardly keep up. All 7 murders we know of thus far are considered "recent". And he's supposedly been active for 20 years. How many other women did he victimize? The mind boggles.

 

[margarita25]

Where was he in August of 1997?

Jessica Cain:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cain_jessica.html