IN IN - Kristy Kelley, 27, Boonville, 15 Aug 2014 #2

[WarrickCountyIN]

If you research the FBI site, they can, and will, assist as long as needed IF asked by local police to do so. That's why so many of us are wondering why on Earth they are not here! This is a human being who has been missing for far too long. There is no way I; and I feel confident you, as well, would not put all your hopes into a VERY small police department to find your missing child. Who would do that? And, why? When there is a huge sophisticated investigative entity like the FBI who has incredible state-of-the-art investigative tools that even large cities don't have.

Otherwise, all we can do is pray, then.

I will tell you this... From the White House to terrorism cases, leaks get out. This is even more so in a very small town. Our police no nothing, have nothing, are doing nothing. I say they are doing nothing because they have already done all that is humanly possible to do. Save following up on an inordinate amount of red-herrings from well-meaning people.

Someone commented that the police have not "dropped the ball." Of course they haven't. Our police force has barely slept, eaten, etc... But just as we are on this site, they are going around and around in circles.

I won't post this again; but you must understand that statistics almost prove that a stranger abduction in a small town the size of Boonville, at the second Kristy happened to walk out of the VFW is almost astronomically impossible. Ninety-eight percent of these cases involves someone the victim knew.

If they are serious about finding out what happened, then this case begs for an outside law enforcement agency to investigate it through unbiased eyes. And, remember, Mr. Scales works for our sheriff's department as a correctional officer. That may impede him from insisting on help from the FBI and the manpower of the National Guard.

Otherwise, as I said, all we can do then is pray. I have, and will continue to pray and cry (which I am doing now writing this), but I also have, and will continue to pray that our sheriff does the right thing... And realizes that NO small police force can do what a huge one can do.

Thanks

Perhaps they did ask, and other than the small amount of help the FBI offered early in the investigation, they were told no. Do you know for a fact they haven't? I don't. LE isn't going to say "We asked the FBI and they told us to sod off." There may very well be rules around when they come in and when they don't, and I suspect this is a don't until more evidence is found. I dunno.. We've beat this topic way into the ground though! :happydance:

I'm not against anyone coming in to help, but I'm also realistic.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Looking closely at the back of the VFW I don't see lights at all, I thought the bartender friend said that she felt safe there and it was well lit. I don't see lights back there at all.

Looking at a picture or driving by at night?

 

[MommyDoll2]

I don't think anyone is against the FBI coming in. <rude> And we also realize that the FBI may not be able to solve the case any better or more quickly than the 5 detectives can.

I heard in an interview (early on) 4 county sheriff deputies, 2 Boonville city police & 2 state police. That is 8 LE officers dedicated to this case!

 

[MommyDoll2]

Looking at a picture or driving by at night?

I have driven by at night. It is dark! I am not saying there are no lights but it is poorly lit & no other business is close enough to have light shining from it to help. At 1:30 am, I think it would be very dark. JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I have driven by at night. It is dark! I am not saying there are no lights but it is poorly lit & no other business is close enough to have light shining from it to help. At 1:30 am, I think it would be very dark. JMO

In that case I find it interesting the bartender claims there was enough light for her to have a good look.

69 percent of the moon was illuminated on August 15.
http://www.wunderground.com/history...tml?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

 

[Seajay]

What kind of crime rate is in Boonville? What's the population?? It seems like a really small town and it also seems like some of the locals are having a hard time accepting that there might be a perp in town that would abduct Kristy and do something to her. Yet Kristy is gone and someone helped her disappear.

Look at the Joelle Lockwood case, there are unsavory people who do things like this. And I imagine some of those types of people live in Boonville. They are alcoholic, addict, or just plain run of the mill criminals. And possibly Kristy crossed paths with one of them.

Although Boonville sounds idyllic, it's gotta have it's problems. Meth labs? Crack addicts? Robbers? Thieves? Sexual predators?? It can't be all unicorns and rainbows there. IMO.

 

[klily444]

It was just an estimate from VFW employees. Since it was just a best guess, I wouldn't put too much weight into that timeframe.

 

[sarx]

What kind of crime rate is in Boonville? What's the population?? It seems like a really small town and it also seems like some of the locals are having a hard time accepting that there might be a perp in town that would abduct Kristy and do something to her. Yet Kristy is gone and someone helped her disappear.

Look at the Joelle Lockwood case, there are unsavory people who do things like this. And I imagine some of those types of people live in Boonville. They are alcoholic, addict, or just plain run of the mill criminals. And possibly Kristy crossed paths with one of them.

Although Boonville sounds idyllic, it's gotta have it's problems. Meth labs? Crack addicts? Robbers? Thieves? Sexual predators?? It can't be all unicorns and rainbows there. IMO.

Very good questions. All towns have their dirty side, regardless of how small, how rich, how tight knit. Maybe a little more diving into that faction would have its merits.

 

[concernedmother]

JMO but I think LE are doing everything they can and probably more than they would for other cases considering KK dad is a corrections officer. Someone isnt telling everything or LE knows more than they are saying but dont have evidence to support it yet. Im not surprised they arent telling her dad much. Thats pretty common in most cases. Its frustrating but usually how it works.

 

[Azureine]

What kind of crime rate is in Boonville? What's the population?? It seems like a really small town and it also seems like some of the locals are having a hard time accepting that there might be a perp in town that would abduct Kristy and do something to her. Yet Kristy is gone and someone helped her disappear.

Look at the Joelle Lockwood case, there are unsavory people who do things like this. And I imagine some of those types of people live in Boonville. They are alcoholic, addict, or just plain run of the mill criminals. And possibly Kristy crossed paths with one of them.

Although Boonville sounds idyllic, it's gotta have it's problems. Meth labs? Crack addicts? Robbers? Thieves? Sexual predators?? It can't be all unicorns and rainbows there. IMO.

So.. Again my personal opinion, but Boonville isn't even close to idyllic. The people in general are very nice, and the crime rate is relatively low. Mostly we have thefts out if people's cars and garages but not a lot of major crimes. The population is about 7000.

This town is, however, a bit dumpy and a bit backwards. There is a lot of poverty, a lot of meth, and a lot of typical "Duck Dynasty Style" redneck behavior that goes on. They don't call it BoonVegas for no reason. Everyone in Lynnville, Newburgh and Evansville makes fun of it. The only town worse in the area is Chandler.

I live here, and there ARE some nicer areas out of city limits but seriously, if you are in town you might have to stop your car on Main street to let a piglet cross the road. You'll find the neighbors free ranging chickens on your porch. Today the guy at the local grocery thought I was crazy when I asked for "Au Jus Sauce"... And then he suddenly got a happy look and said, "You mean Awww Just Sauce!" Yeah. That. Typical. You should check out the FB page Boonville Watch. It's a satire about Boonville and is hilarious. It's so funny because it's partly accurate.

Now, I'm not saying everyone is backwards here.. I'm just being honest. It's not like some cool artsy fartsy small hip town like Newburgh. It's country, ya'll!

 

[sarx]

I know how badly everyone wants to find Kristy and like most every other case, LE is brought into question. Are they doing enough? Why aren't the doing more? On and on.

I've worked a lot of cases. I've worked a lot of cases where the FBI was called in, and I can say that generally speaking it's not what you think and it's NOTHING like what you see on t.v.. Most of the time when FBI is asked to help, they help remotely, with research, evidence, data, etc and you never even see them. If they are there, most people won't even have a clue, they come in quietly, dress in normal clothes and do their jobs, they do not want to distract from the case and task at hand. Only VERY rarely do they come in force and you see this huge presence, this is almost exclusively when CARD is brought in for a stranger child abduction (and those cases really don't happen all that often). They too are spread thin and working in a million different directions.

Personally, I've never worked a missing person (outside of disasters) case where any form of military was brought in. There are specific laws that restrict their use and it's not that easy to get them involved.

8 Detectives working the case (a missing adult with no evidence of foul play, at least this point) is a HUGE number, and the fact that they are using multiple agencies says that they have asked for external help.

As I've seen it, they have no information that is credible to give anyone really good areas to search, and neither local, state or federal have the manpower or the money to be doing more than they have without more information.

 

[sarx]

So.. Again my personal opinion, but Boonville isn't even close to idyllic. The people in general are very nice, and the crime rate is relatively low. Mostly we have thefts out if people's cars and garages but not a lot of major crimes. The population is about 7000.

This town is, however, a bit dumpy and a bit backwards. There is a lot of poverty, a lot of meth, and a lot of typical "Duck Dynasty Style" redneck behavior that goes on. They don't call it BoonVegas for no reason. Everyone in Lynnville, Newburgh and Evansville makes fun of it. The only town worse in the area is Chandler.

I live here, and there ARE some nicer areas out of city limits but seriously, if you are in town you might have to stop your car on Main street to let a piglet cross the road. You'll find the neighbors free ranging chickens on your porch. Today the guy at the local grocery thought I was crazy when I asked for "Au Jus Sauce"... And then he suddenly got a happy look and said, "You mean Awww Just Sauce!" Yeah. That. Typical. You should check out the FB page Boonville Watch. It's a satire about Boonville and is hilarious. It's so funny because it's partly accurate.

Now, I'm not saying everyone is backwards here.. I'm just being honest. It's not like some cool artsy fartsy small hip town like Newburgh. It's country, ya'll!

LMAO, thank you for the visuals. Of my favorites are the duck dynasty references, free ranging chickens and road crossing piglets. In all seriousness though, an honest picture of the town through your eyes helps.

 

[concernedmother]

Degonia Springs consists of maybe 10 houses and nothing else. Tennyson is pretty redneck.If that was her car thats unconfirmed turning by TF she could have been headed to see someone in one of these places. She would have known people as these people attended Boonville School. Back roads boonies would get you to either. If she had been drinking she may not have wanted to take the highway. Too many places to look and cover. Even if she had an accident there is still a chance her car just hasnt been found yet and wont be until harvesting is done and leaves fall off the trees.

 

[Azureine]

LMAO, thank you for the visuals. Of my favorites are the duck dynasty references, free ranging chickens and road crossing piglets. In all seriousness though, an honest picture of the town through your eyes helps.

Sadly, I'm not kidding! Haha! I've had to stop for piglet crossings, and have chased chickens, a donkey and a horse out of the yard! I cannot tell you how many Camo prom dresses I've seen around here. Lol

 

[concernedmother]

Last spring there was hoofed animals in Gentryville.

 

[concernedmother]

We also have alot of deer, fox and coyote in the area to watch out for when driving.

 

[WarrickCountyIN]

You are right. I am confident the Warrick County Sheriff Department and Boonville police will solve this soon. Thanks!

I don't think anyone is against the FBI coming in. But some of us are bothered by the way you keep insinuating that the family is not doing all they can do, and that they may somehow be misleading the public. And we also realize that the FBI may not be able to solve the case any better or more quickly than the 5 detectives can.

 

[WarrickCountyIN]

The National Guard could mobilize and search in conjunction with the local people who want to search. But, I have now agreed with Azureine, the local police can do this. They have all they need to solve this case, and Kristy will be found safe and well.

Seems like they should begin at and around the VFW and work their way outward especially checking the pits and lakes, wooded areas and corn fields. Big job for sure. Usually a discarded person is discovered within 25 miles - some a lot less - from where they were abducted. The SUV that hasn't turned up is rather unique to this case. If Holly Bobo hadn't been abducted from her own backyard though, her car could have been stashed on the Adams' property for these three plus years, right? If so, LE didn't search the property until last March so why couldn't a car have been there all along hypothetically.

 

[WarrickCountyIN]

That's great! Then it will definitely be solved. )

I heard in an interview (early on) 4 county sheriff deputies, 2 Boonville city police & 2 state police. That is 8 LE officers dedicated to this case!

 

[88keys]

I don't see what is so bad about pigs crossing the road and fox and coyotes running around. Country life has its good points, too. I used to do research at the Warrick Co Courthouse and most of the employees there were very nice. (Spencer County had the meanest, nastiest employees...anyway...). And Newburgh is nice, but seems to have a bit of a snobby vibe to it. JMO as a nearby outsider.

(But yeah, I never really got the love for camo. Unless you're actually hunting or are in the military, it seems unnecessary).