IN IN - Paul Raymond Harrod, adult, may have been using false identity, Hamilton County, 27 Nov 1992

[CyresAres1]

Woah that’s quite the resemblance. So you think Paul was Little Joe?

Possible... but maybe not.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

He just looks so Sad in both photos.
Whatever he’s running from broke his heart.

 

[chaz]

Was the wedding at home? The pictures of the wedding and the picture of thanksgiving day seem to be taken in the same kitchen.

 

[CastlesBurning]

I wish I had something to add...unfortunately, I don't. But I just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to this thread. I don't think this case was too known.

 

[CyresAres1]

Was the wedding at home? The pictures of the wedding and the picture of thanksgiving day seem to be taken in the same kitchen.

It was at the brides mothers.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

I think he probably used his last wives Identity or someone’s in her family and is now living out of the country.

 

[CyresAres1]

Possibly... the Coletti he put on marriage application is interesting

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

She didn't report him missing until several months later. Did she still have the note when she filed the report? How certain is it that he left the note and money?

 

[CyresAres1]

She didn't report him missing until several months later. Did she still have the note when she filed the report? How certain is it that he left the note and money?

Allegedly did have the note at time of report and still has it (allegedly), so I go with yes

 

[shadowdancer]

I'd love to see a photo of the note!

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I found a P.O. Box in Sheridan, associated with him in 1989. I doubt that it's useful though.

 

[StarrChance]

The interesting thing is, no one remembers him. Added insurance for his step son about 2 weeks before he left.

Adding insurance two weeks before he left seems premeditated. Was it a large sum, were they able to collect?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Adding insurance two weeks before he left seems premeditated. Was it a large sum, were they able to collect?

Maybe it was health insurance.

 

[Laughing]

I found a P.O. Box in Sheridan, associated with him in 1989. I doubt that it's useful though.

If the application or a scan still exists, yeah I think that's useful! A date on the timeline, anyway.

Thanks for digging!

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

Paul R Harrod - Sheridan, Indiana

 

[CyresAres1]

Adding insurance two weeks before he left seems premeditated. Was it a large sum, were they able to collect?

Was health insurance. The life insurance was not collected on him though.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

Adding insurance two weeks before he left seems premeditated. Was it a large sum, were they able to collect?

Wouldn’t the Insurance be Fraud and Void since he was using a Fake Identity when he purchased it?

 

[JSolt1210]

From the article quoted in The Invisible Man:

"When FBI agents were investigating the younger DeRose's disappearance, they say they found a tape, secretly made by DeRose, in the breadbox of his girlfriend's kitchen of a conversation James A. Traficant Jr., then a Mahoning County sheriff candidate, had with local organized-crime figures. The conversation was about how Traficant, if elected, was going to protect their illegal interests for money.
Traficant was federally indicted for racketeering based on that tape, but won acquittal representing himself in 1983."

Is that tape still extant? Are there extant audio/video recordings of "Paul" to which it may be compared?

Also, when exactly was DeRose Jr. "killed"? Upthread it says in 1982, but the article says "the 1981 killing of DeRose Jr."

I ask because I note upthread that Ruth Ann Carson, who accidentally killed five-year-old Paul Harrod, herself committed suicide in 1962. 1982 would've been the 20th anniversary. Could her family have published a remembrance of some sort in local newspapers, which DeRose Jr. could've subsequently seen and used in order to assume her victim's identity?

Of course, if he was really killed in 1981, then that question may be moot.

 

[rainwaterstill]

I don’t understand what “social” means in the context of that statement.
Like a social gathering? Or social person?

I believe they are referring to the Social Security number. In states where I have lived, it is referred to as "social: or
" SSN" for short.

 

[StarrChance]

From the article quoted in The Invisible Man:

"When FBI agents were investigating the younger DeRose's disappearance, they say they found a tape, secretly made by DeRose, in the breadbox of his girlfriend's kitchen of a conversation James A. Traficant Jr., then a Mahoning County sheriff candidate, had with local organized-crime figures. The conversation was about how Traficant, if elected, was going to protect their illegal interests for money.
Traficant was federally indicted for racketeering based on that tape, but won acquittal representing himself in 1983."

Is that tape still extant? Are there extant audio/video recordings of "Paul" to which it may be compared?

Also, when exactly was DeRose Jr. "killed"? Upthread it says in 1982, but the article says "the 1981 killing of DeRose Jr."

I ask because I note upthread that Ruth Ann Carson, who accidentally killed five-year-old Paul Harrod, herself committed suicide in 1962. 1982 would've been the 20th anniversary. Could her family have published a remembrance of some sort in local newspapers, which DeRose Jr. could've subsequently seen and used in order to assume her victim's identity?

Of course, if he was really killed in 1981, then that question may be moot.

Good idea about the tape recording if still available!
Can’t find any other info for Ruth Ann *Carzoo

Father killed in Feb 81
Rick Porrello's AmericanMafia.com - Allan May's Mob Report current mob stuff
February 24, 1981 – Joseph DeRose, Sr. was murdered by killers looking for his son Joseph DeRose, Jr. during the Mahoning Valley’s Carabbia / Naples War. While staking out the parent’s home one of the hitmen thought he saw the younger DeRose climb into a vehicle parked in the family driveway. He moved in quickly only to find the man behind the wheel was 61 year-old Joseph DeRose, Sr. The father had apparently gone out to rearrange the automobiles in the driveway. When DeRose, Sr. looked up the surprised would-be killer panicked. Perhaps worried about being identified, the hitman fired his shotgun point-blank into the elder DeRose’s chest – mortally wounding him. The intended victim, Joe DeRose, Jr., arrived two hours later.

Joseph DeRose Jr, disappears April 1981
YOUNGSTOWN Ky. inmate indicted in 1981 murder
According to Vindicator files, DeRose Jr. had been a rival of Joseph Naples, also known as "Little Joey." Previously, DeRose had been identified in affidavits filed by federal agents in other cases as the man suspected of having killed Charles Grisham on Dec. 3, 1978, and James Cononico on Jan. 11, 1979.
Grisham and Cononico, the affidavits say, were allies of Naples in a battle for control of organized crime in the Mahoning Valley.
Shootout: The government alleged that Naples was intent on having DeRose dead. On May 14, 1980, two gunmen opened fire on DeRose and his girlfriend Cheryl Durkin. In the exchange of gunfire, DeRose, Durkin and one of the hit men, Sam Scaffidi, were wounded.
DeRose's father, Joseph Sr., was killed Feb. 25, 1981, by a shot fired from a car outside his home. At the time, police and FBI agents said the murderers of the elder DeRose may have mistaken him for his son.
But in April 1981, DeRose Jr. disappeared. A girlfriend's burned-out car was found along a rural road in Summit County.
Gains said authorities believe he was killed in Canfield, though Gains would not elaborate on a motive or why the body was never found.
The investigation was conducted by the Ohio attorney general's organized-crime investigation unit. A staff attorney there is assigned to the case and will assist in Fossesca's prosecution, Gains said.

I think it’s interesting that Joseph jr had a murder attempt in 1980 but stayed, maybe the mistaken identity killing of his father was the catalyst to disappear idk. Did his girlfriend Cheryl Durkin dissapear too?

After following a few of these stolen identity cases that have been resolved its seems more likely they involve
1. Leaving family troubles behind
2.Mental illness
3.Debts
However running from the law/mob/and even spy scenarios have happened.