IN IN - Paul Raymond Harrod, adult, may have been using false identity, Hamilton County, 27 Nov 1992

[Owutatangledweb]

I can't recall if this has been said before. I was taking another look at the side by sides.again. Focusing on how they hold their drinks. The pointer finger on both kind of points upward and is more separated when holding the glass and seems to be oddly shorter than the middle finger and the pinky finger kind of curls down. They are BOTH the same and the finger sizes themselves seem the same. But I don't know if most people hold a glass this way anyway. I'm still thrown off by the ears, even with aging.

 

[Vern]

I can't recall if this has been said before. I was taking another look at the side by sides.again. Focusing on how they hold their drinks. The pointer finger on both kind of points upward and is more separated when holding the glass and seems to be oddly shorter than the middle finger and the pinky finger kind of curls down. They are BOTH the same and the finger sizes themselves seem the same. But I don't know if most people hold a glass this way anyway. I'm still thrown off by the ears, even with aging.

I picked up on the distinctive manner he was holding onto his drinks back on page 15. I'm with you in that I don't know if most people hold their drinks that way, but I thought it stuck pout to me as unusual and a habitual trait that would probably continue to this day. I'm linking back to the original post so that hopefully some more people comment on whether they've seen this to be a "common" or unusual manner of holding.

These three new photos of him are telling. He is displaying the same trait with his hand in each of them. That's a very distinctive manner of holding onto your glass with fingers spread apart, and when hand is empty as well. Spread out with index finger on the rim of the glass. Distinctive and habitual.

That's a trait that he will be unable to change when changing identity. It would have been seen in his previous life, his life as "Paul" and would continue today.

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Also going to link back to the original post containing all the pics of this for ease of having a look at them. I didn't notice the bit that you noticed about the pointer finger seeming to be oddly shorter, but now that I look at them again, I agree on that too.

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[Andreee]

I picked up on the distinctive manner he was holding onto his drinks back on page 15. I'm with you in that I don't know if most people hold their drinks that way, but I thought it stuck pout to me as unusual and a habitual trait that would probably continue to this day. I'm linking back to the original post so that hopefully some more people comment on whether they've seen this to be a "common" or unusual manner of holding.

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Also going to link back to the original post containing all the pics of this for ease of having a look at them. I didn't notice the bit that you noticed about the pointer finger seeming to be oddly shorter, but now that I look at them again, I agree on that too.

This holding the glass thing you mention, is there one of JC that anyone can link to as I see the one of fake PH, but would like to compare to JC. (I forgot to look while perusing JC's fb lol)

 

[Laughing]

This hasn't been showing up as a thread with "new posts" for me!

Missing out, I hate that!

who/where is Not-PRH?

JMHO YMMV LLR

 

[LostOldUserName]

This hasn't been showing up as a thread with "new posts" for me!

Missing out, I hate that!

who/where is Not-PRH?

JMHO YMMV LLR

I have been having trouble with that too!

 

[embufum]

Side by side:

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I have a pretty good facial recognition software and compared both these guys to him and not even close. Just FYI

 

[Owutatangledweb]

I am pretty well convinced that JC on FB is the PRH. The resemblance and high school attended, etc. Of course JMO. Just checked out his most recent posts on his FB and its kinda interesting that he seems to be 'down' due to being without his dog and some relationship not working out, and being alone. Kind of an interesting turn of events if it really is him! Also one of the new posts mentions he was a cook on a ship for years. Interesting info.
I guess we all be waiting more evidence like the handwriting analysis, etc.?

Do we know what kind of dog???

 

[StarrChance]

I have a pretty good facial recognition software and compared both these guys to him and not even close. Just FYI

Have you done one with JC?

 

[embufum]

Have you done one with JC?

OK so my eyes are bleeding lol I went through almost all of the posts. Yes I did run all the photos and the JC guy came in at the lowest around 66%. That's really low. OK so this is pretty crazy. Keep in mind that this high of a score can be considered a match although I'd like to see it higher. If it was 85% I'd say you have your man.

 

[StarrChance]

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Hope your eyes recover!
Did you run the one with the green cup? I’m very surprised at the low percentage, perhaps it’s confirmation bias on my part.
Now my eyes will hurt finding that picture again!

 

[embufum]

Hope your eyes recover!
Did you run the one with the green cup? I’m very surprised at the low percentage, perhaps it’s confirmation bias on my part.
Now my eyes will hurt finding that picture again!

lol Post it but I'll look too.

 

[embufum]

Here you go.

 

[StarrChance]

lol Post it but I'll look too.

Oh it’s in the view attachment above. I meant the one you posted but worked out he is deceased, can’t seem to find a name?

 

[StarrChance]

Here you go.

Thanks! Much to ponder now!

 

[embufum]

Thanks! Much to ponder now!

Welcome. If you or anyone else can find a pic of this Joey guy it would help. Funny how this guys P's and R's look like J's. Why was a warrant issued? I find it odd that the police after all these years would have probable cause to search his ex wife's home. Especially since she doesn't even live at the same house anymore. Couldn't they just have asked her? Looks to me like she never remarried but I could be wrong.

 

[embufum]

So technically this man is not missing? He was known to be alive in 1994 when he sold his car correct? Yes he stole an identity but other than that has he committed a crime? No kids no child support? I just don't get why all the interest in finding him. Does anyone know what type of crime it was to steal an identity back then?

 

[embufum]

Looks like both of Paul the child who died parents both live in a retirement home at the end of their lives. Too bad someone can't go there today and maybe find an ex employee and show them a photo of "Paul". I'd bet he surely wasn't known as Paul back then. Paul M, died in July of 1988 and Paul had already took their sons identity and moved on. FYI Joey DeRose's car was found between Akron and Cleveland when it was found in 1981.

 

[embufum]

There was an attempt on Joey's life on May 14th 1980 when he and his girlfriend drove into his carport. Both were shot but survived. On March 1st 1981 his dad was shot and killed while moving Joey's car which was believed to be a mistake as they thought he was Joey. About a month later was when they found Joey's car in flames. The car was actually his girlfriends. Maybe Joey got smart and decided to stage his own death. His then girlfriend still lives in the same house she did in 1980. I'm tempted to send her some photos of Paul but not that tempted.

 

[StarrChance]

Welcome. If you or anyone else can find a pic of this Joey guy it would help. Funny how this guys P's and R's look like J's. Why was a warrant issued? I find it odd that the police after all these years would have probable cause to search his ex wife's home. Especially since she doesn't even live at the same house anymore. Couldn't they just have asked her? Looks to me like she never remarried but I could be wrong.

Ok so the pic you compared is Joe DeRose and it came in 81%. His body was never found.
I believe his wife remarried her ex husband.

 

[embufum]

Ok so the pic you compared is Joe DeRose and it came in 81%. His body was never found.
I believe his wife remarried her ex husband.

Yes, it doesn't mean it's him but even if it isn't it's a big coincidence. My gut tells me it isn't but it would be nice to compare some more if I could find more pics of Joey. I'm not sure if they got remarried but she still goes by Harrod on her FB page.