IN IN - Paul Raymond Harrod, adult, may have been using false identity, Hamilton County, 27 Nov 1992

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  • #741
Do we know what kind of dog???


Quoting my own post cuz I really want to know what kind of dog Jc had because of the recent Ohio guy post by Gardener where guy is pictured with his dog. I don't do Facebook so can't see JC post about his dog.
 
  • #742
Quoting my own post cuz I really want to know what kind of dog Jc had because of the recent Ohio guy post by Gardener where guy is pictured with his dog. I don't do Facebook so can't see JC post about his dog.
I'm not sure what kind it was, but I could try and find it again and copy and post. This Ohio guy post, where is it?
 
  • #743
It's been a while since I read this thread. I know the detective was looking into a man in Alaska. Did that lead ever pan out? The man on the right is from Ohio but disappeared from Alaska in 1974. Photo was taken in 1966:
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His DOB is around 1935. Is that too old to be Fake PRH? Also height is estimated from 5'8 to 6' -- is that too tall? Here is the missing man's thread: AK - AK, Mitchell Joseph Teevan, 38, Nome, approx 1 January 1974

Here is the post and picture of missing man and dog. Look at the attachment for the side by side picture.
 
  • #744
Quoting my own post cuz I really want to know what kind of dog Jc had because of the recent Ohio guy post by Gardener where guy is pictured with his dog. I don't do Facebook so can't see JC post about his dog.

I'm not sure what was posted on fb (I can't see things on there) but the dog in the picture of Mitchell Teevan was alive in 1966. Are you saying JC is referring to a dog he had in the 1960's on some of his fb posts? I'm really not sure how it all could fit together or if it does. Are we thinking possibly MT goes to Alaska in the 1960's/1970's after his many problems with the law in the midwest. MT writes his family for a bit but then MT gets arrested again in AK-- his legal problems are not going away. Then maybe MT reinvented himself as JC in the 70's as a means of escaping the law? MT disappears and JC appears. Is that possible? (I don't know JC's timeline, sorry). Then maybe JC briefly used the false identity PRH in the 90's to marry, but perhaps he couldn't get a SS number or the proper paperwork to make PRH appear legal, and abandoned his wife to go back to using the JC name, eventually going back to Alaska as JC? Is that remotely possible or are there two many overlapping time periods where both MT and JC identities were in use? Or am I misunderstanding this whole thing and JC is a real name not another alias? Does JC have parents/other close family members that he interacts with on social media? Does he have childhood photos of himself and friends that went to high school with him? Can it be verified that JC is his birth name? JC sounds like a fake name to me, but maybe because I've never met anyone with that surname IRL. I know the tv series from the 70's, lol. Which, coincidentally, that TV show was popular around the time when MT disappeared from Alaska in the mid-70's.
o_O

ETA: I forgot that JC was also reported missing from NY in the late 1970's and I made a thread for him: NY - NY - John Columbo, 47, Lake Ronkonkoma, 4 Dec 1979
So JC is a real name? Who reported him missing? There's almost no info in his thread/NAMUS. And no photo of the missing JC. His age is roughly the same range as MT (born around 1932/33). Are we sure the JC on fb is the missing JC?

MOO.
 
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Here is the post and picture of missing man and dog. Look at the attachment for the side by side picture.
That does not look like the dog that I remember from the Alaska man. And I don't see much of a resemblance of the man to PRH. Thanks for the photo though.
 
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I'm not sure what was posted on fb (I can't see things on there) but the dog in the picture of Mitchell Teevan was alive in 1966. Are you saying JC is referring to a dog he had in the 1960's on some of his fb posts? I'm really not sure how it all could fit together or if it does. Are we thinking possibly MT goes to Alaska in the 1960's/1970's after his many problems with the law in the midwest. MT writes his family for a bit but then MT gets arrested again in AK-- his legal problems are not going away. Then maybe MT reinvented himself as JC in the 70's as a means of escaping the law? MT disappears and JC appears. Is that possible? (I don't know JC's timeline, sorry). Then maybe JC briefly used the false identity PRH in the 90's to marry, but perhaps he couldn't get a SS number or the proper paperwork to make PRH appear legal, and abandoned his wife to go back to using the JC name, eventually going back to Alaska as JC? Is that remotely possible or are there two many overlapping time periods where both MT and JC identities were in use? Or am I misunderstanding this whole thing and JC is a real name not another alias? Does JC have parents/other close family members that he interacts with on social media? Does he have childhood photos of himself and friends that went to high school with him? Can it be verified that JC is his birth name? JC sounds like a fake name to me, but maybe because I've never met anyone with that surname IRL. I know the tv series from the 70's, lol. Which, coincidentally, that TV show was popular around the time when MT disappeared from Alaska in the mid-70's.
o_O

ETA: I forgot that JC was also reported missing from NY in the late 1970's and I made a thread for him: NY - NY - John Columbo, 47, Lake Ronkonkoma, 4 Dec 1979
So JC is a real name? Who reported him missing? There's almost no info in his thread/NAMUS. And no photo of the missing JC. His age is roughly the same range as MT (born around 1932/33). Are we sure the JC on fb is the missing JC?

MOO.
The 'J.C.' we keep referring to here is the very same name you mention, those are the initials of the man our detective here came up with after a long search as a possible 'fake Paul R. Harrod' The only difference is 'our' J.C. has the last name of Colombo with an 'o' instead of a 'u'. We have been discussing his F.B. page on this thread. It's complicated, lol. 'Our' J.C. is from Yonkers. And he isn't 87 yrs. old but younger I believe. Height different. What an interesting coincidence you have come up with! Also, the 'fake Paul R. Harrod' was reported missing by his wife in the midwest as mentioned on this thread.
 
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The 'J.C.' we keep referring to here is the very same name you mention, those are the initials of the man our detective here came up with after a long search as a possible 'fake Paul R. Harrod' The only difference is 'our' J.C. has the last name of Colombo with an 'o' instead of a 'u'. We have been discussing his F.B. page on this thread. It's complicated, lol. 'Our' J.C. is from Yonkers. And he isn't 87 yrs. old but younger I believe. Height different. What an interesting coincidence you have come up with! Also, the 'fake Paul R. Harrod' was reported missing by his wife in the midwest as mentioned on this thread.
One more thing, 'our' alleged FPH aka J.C. is now living in Alaska, a bit of a similiarity to 'your' MIA J.C. :)
 
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I'm not sure what was posted on fb (I can't see things on there) but the dog in the picture of Mitchell Teevan was alive in 1966. Are you saying JC is referring to a dog he had in the 1960's on some of his fb posts? I'm really not sure how it all could fit together or if it does. Are we thinking possibly MT goes to Alaska in the 1960's/1970's after his many problems with the law in the midwest. MT writes his family for a bit but then MT gets arrested again in AK-- his legal problems are not going away. Then maybe MT reinvented himself as JC in the 70's as a means of escaping the law? MT disappears and JC appears. Is that possible? (I don't know JC's timeline, sorry). Then maybe JC briefly used the false identity PRH in the 90's to marry, but perhaps he couldn't get a SS number or the proper paperwork to make PRH appear legal, and abandoned his wife to go back to using the JC name, eventually going back to Alaska as JC? Is that remotely possible or are there two many overlapping time periods where both MT and JC identities were in use? Or am I misunderstanding this whole thing and JC is a real name not another alias? Does JC have parents/other close family members that he interacts with on social media? Does he have childhood photos of himself and friends that went to high school with him? Can it be verified that JC is his birth name? JC sounds like a fake name to me, but maybe because I've never met anyone with that surname IRL. I know the tv series from the 70's, lol. Which, coincidentally, that TV show was popular around the time when MT disappeared from Alaska in the mid-70's.
o_O

ETA: I forgot that JC was also reported missing from NY in the late 1970's and I made a thread for him: NY - NY - John Columbo, 47, Lake Ronkonkoma, 4 Dec 1979
So JC is a real name? Who reported him missing? There's almost no info in his thread/NAMUS. And no photo of the missing JC. His age is roughly the same range as MT (born around 1932/33). Are we sure the JC on fb is the missing JC?

MOO.


No. Generally when dogs die, owners tend to stay with the same breed.
 
  • #749
No. Generally when dogs die, owners tend to stay with the same breed.

Oh, OK. Got it. Good idea. I hadn't thought of that. I don't know much about dog breeds but the dog in that photo of MT seems to be a sled dog breed that would be common in Alaska. Perhaps something like an Alaskan Malmute or Alaskan Husky (or a mix): Sled dog - Wikipedia
Beautiful animals. If someone always owned that breed of dog while living in NY or the Midwest I would say it's a breed preference and we could be onto something. However, if they owned an Alaskan breed while living in Alaska, is it a preference or is it more about what is commonly available/practical for Alaska? I'm not sure.

MOO.
 
  • #750
Bumping.

Where is Not-Paul???

 

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;)
 
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I expect that not-Paul is only a small part of @CyresAres1's job, and there are sufficient present-day crimes in Hamilton County to keep him busy.

Seems to be a good example of a "victimless" crime. The wife doesn't seem too bothered (of course we don't know,) apparently the step-son "didn't like him."

Not-Paul fooled some people, and IIRC skated on a car loan?

Maybe we were fooled....

Maybe I'll throw together another song lyric. Brace yourselves.

YMMV LRR
 
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We need a basketful of clues....
 
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I am back with information!
 
  • #757
My handwriting analysis finally came back today. The lab says there are many similarities, but... people’s writing change with age and medical conditions. They are not saying it is not him, refusing to say it is not. Hopefully my Sheriff will let me go to Alaska to put him to bed either way.
 
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My handwriting analysis finally came back today. The lab says there are many similarities, but... people’s writing change with age and medical conditions. They are not saying it is not him, refusing to say it is not. Hopefully my Sheriff will let me go to Alaska to put him to bed either way.
I would totally help crowd source that trip.
 
  • #760
My handwriting analysis finally came back today. The lab says there are many similarities, but... people’s writing change with age and medical conditions. They are not saying it is not him, refusing to say it is not. Hopefully my Sheriff will let me go to Alaska to put him to bed either way.
Yay, an update! Ok, well I kind of wonder if your Sheriff will let you go to Alaska for work, but maybe you can find a way yet to confirm or not. :)
 
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