GUILTY IN - Ryan Martin, 29, murdered in suspect Talmadge Jasper's home, Lafayette, 23 May 2019

[IQuestion]

MOO I think he didn't see her.

Or the door from the garage into the house had an interior dead bolt lock, that does not have a key.and can only be opened from the inside. I looked at Lafayette codes and they called them "fire rated doors." (I have a deadbolts & 20 minute fire doors leading to garage. ) My husband used to travel a lot and I wanted to make sure no one could enter through the garage, even if they stole his car from a parking lot with the garage door opener in it. All the windows were "alarmed.," too. (I'm not paranoid, just a Sleuth who has read a lot of cases.)

 

[Boxer]

Or the door from the garage into the house had an interior dead bolt lock, that does not have a key.and can only be opened from the inside. I looked at Lafayette codes and they called them "fire rated doors." (I have a deadbolts & 20 minute fire doors leading to garage. ) My husband used to travel a lot and I wanted to make sure no one could enter through the garage, even if they stole his car from a parking lot with the garage door opener in it. All the windows were "alarmed.," too. (I'm not paranoid, just a Sleuth who has read a lot of cases.)

That sounds right. The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage, and other specifics, but was made confidential quickly after arrest.

Here is an article with some details of Jasper going to Ryan's house, down at the end.


Murder suspect's plan to kill ex's boyfriend, according to affidavit

 

[IQuestion]

The cute home Ryan lived in (10 Kenosha Court, Lafayette, In) with his darling GF, SR was sold on July 24, 2019. You can see how the garage is attached to the residential structure.
All of this is so sad.
10 Kenosha Court Lafayette, IN 47909 | MLS 201928380

 

[Boxer]

The cute home Ryan lived in (10 Kenosha Court, Lafayette, In) with his darling GF, SR was sold on July 24, 2019. You can see how the garage is attached to the residential structure.
All of this is so sad.
10 Kenosha Court Lafayette, IN 47909 | MLS 201928380

Yes. So sorry for his daughter.

 

[Purduegirl12]

That sounds right. The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage, and other specifics, but was made confidential quickly after arrest.

Here is an article with some details of Jasper going to Ryan's house, down at the end.


Murder suspect's plan to kill ex's boyfriend, according to affidavit

Where in the article does it say "The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage"? Maybe I missed it when I read it.

 

[Boxer]

Where in the article does it say "The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage"? Maybe I missed it when I read it.

I said it. The article retains a few details from it about TJ going into RM's house.

Where in the article does it say "The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage"? Maybe I missed it when I read it.

 

[Purduegirl12]

I said it. The article retains a few details from it about TJ going into RM's house.

If you look at your comment a few above it says you commented on a post and said the following
That sounds right. The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage, and other specifics, but was made confidential quickly after arrest.

Here is an article with some details of Jasper going to Ryan's house, down at the end.
So you did say he had a hard time getting into the house per what you read.

 

[Boxer]

If you look at your comment a few above it says you commented on a post and said the following
That sounds right. The probable cause affidavit had details about some difficulty Jasper had getting into the house through the garage, and other specifics, but was made confidential quickly after arrest.

Here is an article with some details of Jasper going to Ryan's house, down at the end.
So you did say he had a hard time getting into the house per what you read.

Hard to understand what your point is.

 

[tresir2012]

Hard to understand what your point is.

I think Purduegirl is wondering where to view the "had difficulty getting in" that you quoted.

I think you are quoting a source that is unavailable.

 

[Boxer]

I think Purduegirl is wondering where to view the "had difficulty getting in" that you quoted.

I think you are quoting a source that is unavailable.

Yes, the article has some details but between the arrest and the arraignment some reporters had access to the probable cause affidavit, which had the details of the police call and police arrival to Kenosha Ct. and then to Pheasant Run.


The article I linked has the most details I can find that are left in MSM about TJ going to Ryan"s.
Other articles have been edited.

I recall reading that TJ had a problem getting into the house through the garage. I don't know if he succeeded getting into the main house or not.

At this point TJ is not contesting any facts of the case in the affidavit. Only pleading to be found innocent because he has mental issues.

 

[Purduegirl12]

I think Purduegirl is wondering where to view the "had difficulty getting in" that you quoted.

I think you are quoting a source that is unavailable.

@tresir2012 yes that was my point.

 

[tresir2012]

Yes, the article has some details but between the arrest and the arraignment some reporters had access to the probable cause affidavit, which had the details of the police call and police arrival to Kenosha Ct. and then to Pheasant Run.


The article I linked has the most details I can find that are left in MSM about TJ going to Ryan"s.
Other articles have been edited.

I recall reading that TJ had a problem getting into the house through the garage. I don't know if he succeeded getting into the main house or not.

At this point TJ is not contesting any facts of the case in the affidavit. Only pleading to be found innocent because he has mental issues.

Ok thanks for explaining. If his insanity defense works, he would be found "guilty but insane" or "guilty by reason of insanity" I believe. There is no "innocent by reason of insanity" judgement I don't believe, but am not certain about that. It will be interesting to follow the process.
AJMO.

 

[Boxer]

Here is an explanation of pleading insanity in Indoana.
I was confused seeing there is an "innocent due to insanity"
I thought Indiana only had a guilty but insane plea-
according to thos, the jury decides.

 

[Boxer]

Here is an explanation of pleading insanity in Indoana.
I was confused seeing there is an "innocent due to insanity"
I thought Indiana only had a guilty but insane plea-
according to thos, the jury decides.

Wow - sorry about all the typos. Here is the missing link.
https://www.hesslerlaw.com/means-plead-insanity-criminal-charges/

 

[Niner]

09/27/2019 Pretrial Conference
Session: 09/27/2019 8:30 AM, Judicial Officer: Meyer, Steven P
Result: Commenced and concluded

10/01/2019 Hearing Scheduling Activity
Jury Trial scheduled for 10/22/2019 at 8:30 AM was cancelled. Reason: Agreement of Parties.

10/01/2019 Hearing Scheduling Activity
Pretrial Conference scheduled for 01/31/2020 at 8:30 AM.

10/01/2019 Hearing Scheduling Activity
Jury Trial scheduled for 02/25/2020 at 8:30 AM.

10/01/2019 Order Issued
Doctors Appointed for Evaluation
Noticed: Harrington, Patrick K
Noticed: Manahan, Patrick Franklin
Noticed: Olive, Don Psy.D., HSPP
Noticed: Wendt, Jeffrey MD
Order Signed: 09/27/2019

10/02/2019 Automated ENotice Issued to Parties
Order Issued ---- 10/1/2019 : Jeffrey Wendt;Don Psy.D., HSPP Olive;Patrick Franklin Manahan;Patrick K Harrington Hearing Scheduling Activity ---- 10/1/2019 : Patrick Franklin Manahan;Patrick K Harrington Hearing Scheduling Activity ---- 10/1/2019 : Patrick Franklin Manahan;Patrick K Harrington Hearing Scheduling Activity ---- 10/1/2019 : Patrick Franklin Manahan;Patrick K Harrington

10/02/2019 Motion for Evidence Rule 404(b) Disclosure
404B Motion with Attached Report
Filed By: State of Indiana
File Stamp: 10/02/2019

10/03/2019 Automated ENotice Issued to Parties
Motion for Evidence Rule 404(b) Disclosure ---- 10/2/2019 : Patrick Franklin Manahan;Patrick K Harrington

10/22/2019 CANCELED Jury Trial
Reason: Agreement of Parties
Session: 10/22/2019 8:30 AM, Cancelled

01/31/2020Pretrial Conference
Session: 01/31/2020 8:30 AM, Judicial Officer: Meyer, Steven P

02/25/2020 Jury Trial
Session: 02/25/2020 8:30 AM, Judicial Officer: Meyer, Steven P

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[ilovechili]

So the trial has been delayed...

 

[Boxer]

So the trial has been delayed...

MOO The state has entered evidence of past bad acts by the defendant as having bearing on the crime he is being charged with.
MOO again, the delay would be to give the defense time to do their discovery.

 

[ilovechili]

MOO The state has entered evidence of past bad acts by the defendant as having bearing on the crime he is being charged with.
MOO again, the delay would be to give the defense time to do their discovery.

Gotcha. Thank you!

 

[tresir2012]

MOO The state has entered evidence of past bad acts by the defendant as having bearing on the crime he is being charged with.
MOO again, the delay would be to give the defense time to do their discovery.

What prior bad acts do you think? Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

 

[Boxer]

What prior bad acts do you think? Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

MOO he may have made threats. Certainly the details of the restraining order could contain evidence. And there was an incident of a public argument at work with RM.