"In this case, we don't even have an indictment"

[GrainneDhu]

[bbm]

self-incrimination about what?

- MFHP
- disappearance of Kyron

in my mind, either one of those things is enough to keep her child from her

it's a pretty simple thing when we pare it down:

an innocent person would not be concerned about self-incrimination IMO

BBM

Then that innocent person would be either ignorant or a fool, in my humble opinion.

Kevin Fox didn't think he had to worry about self incrimination in the matter of the assault and murder of his three year old daughter. That got him 8 months in jail before he was exonerated and a multi-million dollar settlement from the state.

Wen Ho Lee didn't think he had anything to worry about in talking to the FBI because he knew he was innocent. That ended with his solitary imprisonment for 9 months, a coerced guilty plea to one single count, a multi-million dollar settlement from the federal government and a formal apology from the president of the United States.

Steven Hatfill thought he had nothing to worry about in talking to the FBI because he knew he was innocent. That led to years of intolerable pressure via the court of public opinion, his career being ruined and ultimately a multi-million dollar settlement from the federal government.

My mama says "you don't have to be hit by a train yourself to figure out that it will hurt." Meaning that it is possible to learn from the travails of others without actually experiencing them for one's self.

Factual innocence is clearly not always a protection. I believe that there are definitely situations where factually innocent people should be worried about self incrimination.

 

[citigirl]

I want to post the whole quote, because I find Rackner's statement bizarre.

"We don't even have an indictment," Kaine's attorney Laura Rackner said. "So we don't even have a limit as to how long this can go on. It's about her convenience and what she wants for herself."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine--Terri-Horman-due-in-court-for-divorce-hearing-104487169.html

WTH, does she think TH wants to be indicted? Does she think it's convenient for TH to be in the position she's in? Goofy.

I thought she was talking about Kaine wanting a divorce and things settled in a timely way ..while Terri wants a two-year abatement...that it's in baby K's best interest for decision to be made about her future ASAP....

 

[Kat010]

BBM

Then that innocent person would be either ignorant or a fool, in my humble opinion.

Kevin Fox didn't think he had to worry about self incrimination in the matter of the assault and murder of his three year old daughter. That got him 8 months in jail before he was exonerated and a multi-million dollar settlement from the state.

Wen Ho Lee didn't think he had anything to worry about in talking to the FBI because he knew he was innocent. That ended with his solitary imprisonment for 9 months, a coerced guilty plea to one single count, a multi-million dollar settlement from the federal government and a formal apology from the president of the United States.

Steven Hatfill thought he had nothing to worry about in talking to the FBI because he knew he was innocent. That led to years of intolerable pressure via the court of public opinion, his career being ruined and ultimately a multi-million dollar settlement from the federal government.

My mama says "you don't have to be hit by a train yourself to figure out that it will hurt." Meaning that it is possible to learn from the travails of others without actually experiencing them for one's self.

Factual innocence is clearly not always a protection. I believe that there are definitely situations where factually innocent people should be worried about self incrimination.

Highly recommended reading for a well-rounded perspective not just on the legal system, but on Oregon LE and prosecutors in particular: The Smoking Gun by Gerry Spence. It will raise the hairs on the back of your neck.

Among his many other accomplishments, Spence fought and won for Karen Silkwood's family.

eta/OOOPS! For some unknown reason, the link to Spence's Amazon page posted two graphics and stuff. So I deleted it. You can go to Amazon and search Gerry Spence to find the book. And, an aside--while shopping for true crime books, the list gave me (are you ready?)--The Complete Idiot's Guide to RVing. LOL

 

[Mylou]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question or not, but here goes.
TH spent alot of time being questioned by LE, hours and days.
Are her lawyers privy to anything she told LE at all ? Or do they only have access to that in the event she is charged with something ?

 

[Billylee]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question or not, but here goes.
TH spent alot of time being questioned by LE, hours and days.
Are her lawyers privy to anything she told LE at all ? Or do they only have access to that in the event she is charged with something ?

Good question for the legal thread, but I'm guessing they are not privy to ANYTHING LE has. JMO IANAL

 

[pufnstuf]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this question or not, but here goes.
TH spent alot of time being questioned by LE, hours and days.
Are her lawyers privy to anything she told LE at all ? Or do they only have access to that in the event she is charged with something ?

They'll have access to it once she is charged, during discovery. They have no access now because she's not been charged; therefore, there's no case against her.

Hopefully she's being honest with her attorney and telling him what she said to LE.