GUILTY IN - Tiffanie Adams, 20, pregnant, Sullivan, 5 November 2014

[steelman]

Hi, I have not been on here in some time. I saw this on google search looking up info on Tiffanie Adams. I live in Sullivan, IN. I knew Tiffanie when she was a child.

Have to get some things straight on here. Brian is her step father and he is the one everyone thinks is odd/weird. He is a druggie and a drunk. The ex boyfriend says he has had no contact with her since she moved to another town about 40 miles away.

Tiffanie had a hard childhood, both her parents were into drugs. She has lived with other relatives and friends in her high school years because of the problems she had at home.

Some say she left the area because of a few warrants out on her and others believe something bad has happened. No one knows for sure of what happened at this time. I tend to think that her step father does have something to do with this. I have heard rumors of him making her to do some really disgusting things, so he could make some money for his drug habit.

I'm bringing this post up from back on 11/14/14 in an attempt to refresh memories, and from the perspective of a local.

 

[katydid23]

Did the father of the baby want to be involved?

 

[Writerofwrongs]

This really is beyond sad - as someone else said, nobody deserves to be murdered and left in a cornfield. Is this a death penalty state? I hope the person(s) responsible for Tiffanie's and her baby boy's death are captured and charged with two counts of murder!

R.I.P Tiffanie and child xox

 

[concernedmother]

IN is a DP state.

 

[QueenMictlan]

From what I have read, the baby has also passed on. The father of the baby posted that he can't stop crying about losing his son and Tiffanie. So sadly the baby did pass on also. I have a feeling we will be hearing about who did this, I believe the police know and I am pretty positive I do too.

 

[MsFacetious]

From what I have read, the baby has also passed on. The father of the baby posted that he can't stop crying about losing his son and Tiffanie. So sadly the baby did pass on also. I have a feeling we will be hearing about who did this, I believe the police know and I am pretty positive I do too.

This was assumed by most I am sure.
For some reason they just don't report it that way.
However if the baby was "missing" we would have surely heard about that.
So I can't explain why it gets reported the way it does, but I assumed they died together. :twocents:

 

[Balor51]

Heartbreaking. R.I.P. Tiffanie and her precious baby. May justice be swift and punishment severe.

 

[Annie1004]

Df

I don't think she ever left "Dad's" house. That's the version the cops and the media were told.............not necessarily the accurate one.

I'm confused as well about the "stepfather" and the "Dad". She apparently got along well with her "Dad", but seemed to despise her "stepfather". Which one was it that lived so close to her mother ?

Somebody local, or somebody with more knowledge about it, fill me in.

I am not local, but I read her entire FB. The stepfather and bio mom live behind the house Tiffanie's first stepfather lives in. She adored the first stepfather, who she refers to as her "Dad." She found out from her mother at age 12 that bio dad died and that he was a druggie. Tiffanie is listed in bio dad's obituary as his daughter. He died at age 44. Tiffanie took her first stepfather's last name, the man she considered her Dad. From what I have read, the man she considers her Dad is devastated and in seclusion. Fortunately, he has a lot of Adams family support.

 

[steelman]

Df

I am not local, but I read her entire FB. The stepfather and bio mom live behind the house Tiffanie's first stepfather lives in. She adored the first stepfather, who she refers to as her "Dad." She found out from her mother at age 12 that bio dad died and that he was a druggie. Tiffanie is listed in bio dad's obituary as his daughter. He died at age 44. Tiffanie took her first stepfather's last name, the man she considered her Dad. From what I have read, the man she considers her Dad is devastated and in seclusion. Fortunately, he has a lot of Adams family support.

Okay......then that would mean she was leaving the home of the stepdad she "liked". I doubt he had anything to do with this, just viewing the pictures of the two of them. That leaves the possibility of her either making it home to Mom's, or being intercepted before she got to Mom's. ( "Need a ride ?" )

My money is on her making it back to Mom's house, and something happening there. It is their version of events, that she never arrived at her Mom's house.


Thanks for clarifying Annie1004

 

[Annie1004]

I could see her getting into an argument with Mom and her current husband and something happened. I can't shake this feeling. No one else would have seen TA between the two houses, 100 feet or yards apart to offer her a ride, IMHO. But...stranger things have happened.

She could have walked somewhere after she left one house, I dunno, but I think Occam's Razor is at play here, and the old adage, "where there's smoke, there's fire."

 

[melissasmom]

Okay......then that would mean she was leaving the home of the stepdad she "liked". I doubt he had anything to do with this, just viewing the pictures of the two of them. That leaves the possibility of her either making it home to Mom's, or being intercepted before she got to Mom's. ( "Need a ride ?" )

My money is on her making it back to Mom's house, and something happening there. It is their version of events, that she never arrived at her Mom's house.


Thanks for clarifying Annie1004

I thought step-dad said that she did make it to their house and then she supposedly left and said she was going back to her dad's?

 

[MamaJoJo]

I thought step-dad said that she did make it to their house and then she supposedly left and said she was going back to her dad's?

I haven't read that anywhere (but could have missed it). IMO, like Annie said, there is fire behind all of the smoke.

Rest well, Tiffanie. You had a great plan to give your little guy a better life than you had. I hope there's a heaven so that you can be the great momma you planned to be.

 

[LoriMcA]

Here's tonight's interview with the mother & step-dad...
http://wthitv.com/2015/01/03/family-of-tiffanie-adams-speaks-out-about-daughters-murder/

 

[LoriMcA]

I've been following quietly since the beginning....& reading the fb posts *when it wasn't closed*...this poor girl....RIP Tiffanie & wee baby....It's just so sad...the whole situation... :'(

 

[Kelly-Jane]

http://www.mywabashvalley.com/story...ossibly-a-double/25650/YasUQ_d06k-o5K_w4u2yrQ

 

[Tssiemer]

I just. I can't believe there's a question. Regardless of the fetuses "viability". If her intent was to carry to term that was a life taken. I'm soooo hypocritical because I'm pro choice but this is obviously murder of 2 people.


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[kimi_SFC]

http://www.mywabashvalley.com/story...ossibly-a-double/25650/YasUQ_d06k-o5K_w4u2yrQ

I just watched the embedded video at the link above. Thank you kelly-jane for posting it.

Here's my take on the situation.

It would seem it is necessary for fetal viability determination in order to file the second murder charge under the law. IMO, the State is following protocol. I hope they are able to do so expeditiously. Tiffanie's family, the father of their child, and the community, are grieving tremendously. In their hearts and mind, there is no question. However, this issue must stand up in a Court of Law, where Victims' Rights are not constitutionally guaranteed in the same way as the accused. I can absolutely sympathize with the pain and heartache this process must be causing them, but I also understand the position the State is in.

The wait for the forensics will be agonizing. However, I must put my faith in the process, and that science will support what many already know and believe. I have no doubt LE is and will continue to work this case, and I hope we will hear of a POI(s) or suspect(s) soon. lease:

Heaven forbid, if the findings contradict, then all heck just might break loose. But that bridge cannot be crossed until that time.

:twocents:

#JusticeForTiffanie - and her unborn son
:rose: :rose:

raying:

:candle:






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[kimi_SFC]

Here's tonight's interview with the mother & step-dad...
http://wthitv.com/2015/01/03/family-of-tiffanie-adams-speaks-out-about-daughters-murder/

From your link LoriMcA - thank you for posting this to the thread--

(snip)

“Whosever is out there that did it, you will get caught,” said BO (redacted - Tiffanie's step-father.
“I can’t even imagine that person being a person,” added CO (redacted - Tiffanie's mother).

The cause of death has not been released.
If you have any information, you are asked to contact Indiana State Police at (765) 653-4114 or the Sullivan County Sheriff’s Office at (812) 268-4044.

Screen grabs from the embedded video:

:rose: :rose:

:candle:


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[kimi_SFC]

Because we don't have COD, I wasn't sure how to snip this to the particular code:

Fetal Homicide State Laws

Indiana

Ind. Code Ann. § 35-41-1-25 defines serious bodily injury as bodily injury that causes the loss of a fetus.
Ind. Code Ann. § 35-42-1-3 defines voluntary manslaughter as a person who knowingly or intentionally kills a fetus that has attained viability while acting under sudden heat and provides penalties.
Ind. Code Ann. § 35-42-1-4 defines involuntary manslaughter to include a person who kills a fetus that has attained viability while committing or attempting to commit specified felonies that pose a risk of serious bodily injury, specified misdemeanors that pose a risk of serious bodily injury or battery. The law was amended in 2010 by Ind. Acts, P.L. 7 (SB 71) to include a violation ofInd. Code Ann. 9-30-5-1 et seq., which define operating a vehicle while intoxicated. The law refers to Ind. Code Ann.§ 16-18-2-365, which defines viability as the ability of a fetus to live outside the mother's womb.
Ind. Code Ann. § 35-42-1-6 specifies that a person who knowingly or intentionally terminates a human pregnancy with an intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus commits feticide; the law does not apply to an abortion. The law was amended in 2009 to change feticide from a Class C to a Class B felony. (2009 Ind. Acts, P.L. 40, SB 236)
Ind. Code Ann. § 35-42-2-1.5 defines aggravated battery as a person who knowingly or intentionally inflicts injury on a person that causes the loss of a fetus.
Ind. Code Ann. § 35-50-2-9(b)(16) allows the state to seek either a death sentence or a sentence of life imprisonment without parole for murder by alleging the victim of the murder was pregnant and the murder resulted in the intentional killing of a fetus that has attained viability.
Ind. Code Ann. § 35-50-2-16 (2009) allows the state to seek an additional fixed term of imprisonment if a person, while committing or attempting to commit murder, caused the termination of a pregnancy. Prosecution of the murder or attempted murder and the enhancement of the penalty for that crime does not require proof that the person committing or attempting to commit the murder had knowledge or should have had knowledge that the victim was pregnant or that the defendant intended to cause the termination of a pregnancy. The additional consecutive term of imprisonment may be between six and 20 years. (2009 Ind. Acts, P.L. 40, SB 236)

http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx




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[Tssiemer]

Kimi you are so wise and always so informative. I appreciate you so much.


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