"incestuous" images found on JP's computer in Utah

[passionflower]

KevinKIRO Kevin McCarty
"incestuous images" on #joshpowell computer is animated video of according to source. #FindSusan


Didn't know it was video.

a video, makes this even worse, JMO

 

[ThoughtFox]

Really, I just need to stop reading about this for the weekend. It is literally frying my brain.

See you all on Monday.

 

[Magdalyn]

Really, I just need to stop reading about this for the weekend. It is literally frying my brain.

See you all on Monday.

I hear you. I think many of us are feeling the same after this horrible week. :grouphug:

 

[sorrell skye]

As far as I'm concerned, this whole case is coming apart at the seams. I've said it before and I'll say it again - that evil murderer should NOT have been allowed anywhere near Susan's precious little boys.

Now it comes to light that the Cox's attorney, Steve Downing, wasn't notified of the disturbing incest videos found on JP's computer prior to the most recent custody hearing.

But a lawyer for Powell's in-laws, who had custody of the boys, wasn't invited to see the computer-generated materials before the custody hearing -- even though a Utah judge had specified in a sealed court order that he was one of the few people allowed to see them.

Had he seen the images, attorney Steve Downing said, he might have asked the court to change the terms of Powell's supervised visitation with the boys, such as by asking for the visits to be in a public place. Instead, Downing said he didn't learn until Thursday morning -- four days after Powell killed himself and the boys in a house fire -- that he was allowed to see them.

"That would have absolutely given me the opportunity to submit a declaration about our deep concern. I was approved ... to view those pictures and I was never notified," Downing said. "I could have gone into all the reasons why the visitation could have or should have been restricted."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...ewsbreak_powell_had_incestuous_images/?page=1

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Regarding the images....

Whose responsibility was it to notify Mr. Downing?? And why didn't he ask about this himself??

 

[sorrell skye]

Regarding the images....

Whose responsibility was it to notify Mr. Downing?? And why didn't he ask about this himself??

Based on Mr. Downing's statements in the article, he was unaware of the incest videos. If he was unaware that they existed, he wouldn't have been able to ask about them.

I have no idea whose responsibility it was to notify Mr. Downing about the images.

However, apparently, Washington State Assistant Attorney General John Long was aware of the materials.


On Jan. 30, the sheriff's office arranged a viewing of the materials, said Sherry Hill, a spokeswoman for the Department of Social and Health Services.

Among the attendees were Long and a Child Protective Services social worker. Downing said he wasn't notified of the viewing. Long confirmed Downing had been listed as one of those allowed to see the images. However, Downing was not technically a party to the Feb. 1 hearing, which was between Powell and the state, so there was no rush to make sure Downing saw the materials beforehand.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...ewsbreak_powell_had_incestuous_images/?page=2

My question is regarding the February 1 hearing. Was this not a custody review hearing, during which the court-appointed psychologist (who had been invited to view the incest videos) recommended a psychosexual evaluation?

I'm mystified as to why visitation wasn't revoked until a more thorough case review could have been conducted, given the knowledge the psychologist and the State Attorney's office possessed.

I'm also mystified as to why Mr. Downing wasn't invited to the viewing of the pornographic materials, especially since he was named as an approved party in the Utah Judge's sealed court order.

 

[Kat]

I am wondering too, but I have thought for a long time the family tree is a very "close" one. Guess we are going to find out that indeed it is/was, and will not be shocked, just saddened and sickened.

This one is going to be so much more ugly, sorted and incomprehensible than it already is that I don't think I will be able to follow this one Merc. It's going to be too much for me I think.

Bless these precious babies and their Mommy. Especially their maternal Grandparents.

 

[twzzlrgirl]

I think the boys were starting to open up with the Coxes and they were becoming a threat to JP and perhaps even his dad.

Yes. Wielding an ax at these poor babies came out of RAGE. You don't attack someone with a hatchet unless you are on a rampage...he could not have thought they would survive the fire. What a sick, sick individual. He was furious that they'd started to talk, after (I'm sure) he "told" them not to. I hope he packed for hot weather in the afterlife....

 

[sorrell skye]

Here's the thing: the court-appointed psychologist was concerned enough after viewing the computer-generated incestuous images found by Utah LE on JP's computer (which were found way back in 2009) that he wanted to conduct a psychosexual evaluation.

JP was/is a POI in his wife's 2009 disappearance (and most likely homicide).

JP's father, SP, with whom JP and the boys had been living for the past 2 years, had recently been arrested on voyeurism and child charges.

Judge Nelson made a decision. She made the WRONG decision.

I'll say it again: Judge Nelson made the WRONG decision.

Family reunification is NOT always in the best interest of the child(ren).

This is not hindsight. This should have been foresight, based upon the overwhelming wealth of information available in this case.

 

[mysteriew]

Yes. Wielding an ax at these poor babies came out of RAGE. You don't attack someone with a hatchet unless you are on a rampage...he could not have thought they would survive the fire. What a sick, sick individual. He was furious that they'd started to talk, after (I'm sure) he "told" them not to. I hope he packed for hot weather in the afterlife....

They were starting to talk. And he was afraid of that. But IMO I think there was something else too. IMO I think they were also starting to talk about "grandpa." I think they may have started talking lovingly about him, talking about things they did, things he said. For them to identify with a person he considered an enemy would have been unforgivable to him.

 

[hollyblue]

Based on Mr. Downing's statements in the article, he was unaware of the incest videos. If he was unaware that they existed, he wouldn't have been able to ask about them.

I have no idea whose responsibility it was to notify Mr. Downing about the images.

However, apparently, Washington State Assistant Attorney General John Long was aware of the materials.


On Jan. 30, the sheriff's office arranged a viewing of the materials, said Sherry Hill, a spokeswoman for the Department of Social and Health Services.

Among the attendees were Long and a Child Protective Services social worker. Downing said he wasn't notified of the viewing. Long confirmed Downing had been listed as one of those allowed to see the images. However, Downing was not technically a party to the Feb. 1 hearing, which was between Powell and the state, so there was no rush to make sure Downing saw the materials beforehand.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...ewsbreak_powell_had_incestuous_images/?page=2

My question is regarding the February 1 hearing. Was this not a custody review hearing, during which the court-appointed psychologist (who had been invited to view the incest videos) recommended a psychosexual evaluation?

I'm mystified as to why visitation wasn't revoked until a more thorough case review could have been conducted, given the knowledge the psychologist and the State Attorney's office possessed.

I'm also mystified as to why Mr. Downing wasn't invited to the viewing of the pornographic materials, especially since he was named as an approved party in the Utah Judge's sealed court order.

I'm mystified that it was wasn't brought forward when the Utah authorities found the images? The boys were living in the sole custody of their father....with the alleged pedo grandfather from Dec '09 to Sept '11???, BUT, it wasn't released for anyone to view until 2/1/12? They knew what kind of "things" he was into and how it may effect the children,,,yet didn't say a dang thing!:maddening:

Why won't someone ask Utah authorities why? I can understand wanting to hold certain info back in Susan's case, but...the boys welfare was in question. IMO

 

[hollyblue]

Maybe they were afraid he would do himself in back then? He was "frayed"...ie: blue beanie video, and the description by friends and family in UT. Still....????

 

[sorrell skye]

I'm mystified that it was wasn't brought forward when the Utah authorities found the images? The boys were living in the sole custody of their father....with the alleged pedo grandfather from Dec '09 to Sept '11???, BUT, it wasn't released for anyone to view until 2/1/12? They knew what kind of "things" he was into and how it may effect the children,,,yet didn't say a dang thing!:maddening:

Why won't someone ask Utah authorities why? I can understand wanting to hold certain info back in Susan's case, but...the boys welfare was in question. IMO

I agree.

This crucial information should have been made available long ago, in an effort to protect Charlie and Braden.

 

[cluciano63]

I think that Utah LE and the state (various agencies) will be answering questions (and possible lawsuits) for many years to come...JMO

 

[motappin]

If Susan found out what Josh was into and that was his motive for murder, to hide his secrets, then all that stuff on the computers may have been withheld as evidence in Susan's case. Not sure of the legalities though, and if that would legally preclude WVPD from making the evidence available.

 

[NocturnalLady]

I think that Utah LE and the state (various agencies) will be answering questions (and possible lawsuits) for many years to come...JMO

I hope so. This should not be allowed to be swept under the rug. The poor Cox family is probably so shell shocked right now that they will be unable to push for a full accounting and full accountability here. As citizens of the country we need to make sure our outrage is heard and that corrective action is taken!

 

[lillygator]

The Cox did the right thing. They knew what Josh was capable of. I really wish the courts would have but out of the visitation issues until a full investigation occurred.
the Cox are good law abiding people who trusted the courts to protect the boys. the courts let them down.

I was not at all implying them, I blame the court, the judge etc.

Steven Powell Probable Cause Statement 22 SEPTEMBER 2011

http://www.scribd.com/doc/66095524/Probable-Cause-Statement-involving-Steven-Powell

***EXPLICIT CONTENT***
Description of crimes .

{Some excerpts from links}
These are from the link at top. The documents at lower link are similar - but not identical.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:7xVU09xLv4wJ:www.abc4.com/media/lib/5/5/3/a/53a12909-6e23-4772-891e-34393ef8c051/PowellPC.pdf+steven+powell+probabale+cause&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESixZEYx3pWCIroYW4ssedXGXwvwa4AnlJyQ1xKCq-Ds_dIRZNLXAG_PZOpn_6uYFQxJ7cbtI9jl_Fo9z1iijhxpEsgwLMC1bsvOSlJshMH6cXragba_FnypHXtuhA04I8cfCxgF&sig=AHIEtbQTLqtoYuxrYRROXK5jp7G8GPONbg

really? this is incredible.....

 

[x_files]

I was not at all implying them, I blame the court, the judge etc.


I wasn't questioning you just agreeing.
Just sad an din shock about the whole situation.

 

[dovebar]

This needs an FBI investigation.

Of the WVPD.
Of the Utah authorities, wherever this info was delayed for two years while a perp had access to these kids.
Of the Washington authorities who did not notify the lawyer for the custodial grandparents.

JMO, but there may be other pedophiles in this case aiding and abetting this situation.

 

[x_files]

This needs an FBI investigation.

Of the WVPD.
Of the Utah authorities, wherever this info was delayed for two years while a perp had access to these kids.
Of the Washington authorities who did not notify the lawyer for the custodial grandparents.

JMO, but there may be other pedophiles in this case aiding and abetting this situation.

I agree. Especially since SP worked for WA Dept of Corrections. How far does the rabbit hole go? Hate to ask.