Infant gets 2 fetus's removed from her...

[TheShadow]

In most cases of this, the individuals (hermaphrodites) are assigned one or the other sex at birth (by the parents presumably), and are surgically altered to clarify the issue. This results in some serious gender confusion. Apparently in that corner of Portugal, no one ever heard of such a thing or ever suspected that anything was wrong with the "boy". Mother Nature is a strange lady sometimes....

 

[christine2448]

You understand it perfectly.

And yes many people could have this type of DNA makeup and it would mostly go unnoticed because there is little reason to test the paternity of a mother against that of a child, excdept in rare cases.
To date its been a given that if a fathers DNA doesn't match that of the child then he is simply not the father and the mother is lying.
According to the study the DNA varied by organ.
In the case of the pregnant mom they had to DNA test several different organs until some finally matched that of her children. (the one the court thought she was lying about and the one she was pregnant with at the time)

A simple swab test (the most common way DNA tests are done) did not match.
So for example when they DNA tested her kidney it had a complete and seperate DNA then the swab test or DNA tests of her hair and skin.
(I am not sure if it really was her kidney ,just using that as an example)

WOW, very scary...thanks Amra for the explaination.

 

[Amraann]

In most cases of this, the individuals (hermaphrodites) are assigned one or the other sex at birth (by the parents presumably), and are surgically altered to clarify the issue. This results in some serious gender confusion. Apparently in that corner of Portugal, no one ever heard of such a thing or ever suspected that anything was wrong with the "boy". Mother Nature is a strange lady sometimes....

Actually from the documentaries I have seen it is usually the Dr's who decide.
The choice is not always for the best because often their choice is based upon what gender is easier to surgically keep/remove rather then what chromosones dictate the child really is.

 

[Marine Mom]

Actually from the documentaries I have seen it is usually the Dr's who decide.
The choice is not always for the best because often their choice is based upon what gender is easier to surgically keep/remove rather then what chromosones dictate the child really is.

I watched a show where a woman was mistaken for a hermaphrodite at birth. Actually she had an enlarged cli***** that resembled a penis. The docs cut if off. I felt so sorry for this woman going through life and never being "relieved."

 

[Amraann]

Like in the scenario above in Portugal many of these people don't have a clue until hormones kick in ..

So without chromosonal testing I don't see how the Dr's could decide?
IMO they do the surgery for the feelings of the parents rather then that of the child.

 

[TheShadow]

I was surprised when I read the story, that the boy was able to get pregnant but hadn't noticed having a period. Can you get pregnant before your first menses?

 

[Amraann]

I was surprised when I read the story, that the boy was able to get pregnant but hadn't noticed having a period. Can you get pregnant before your first menses?

as in the case of women who are irregular .. yes you can.
A women can have very irregular periods and still be ovulating.

 

[RainbowsAndGumdrops]

In cases like this, not all of the organs are always there or functional. This person likely had to have a c-section because the outward anatomy were that of a boy. I am assuming the organs were not in place to have regular periods.

 

[SewingDeb]

The scientist studying this felt that even though so far they have only documented these two cases, its very likely that more exist but not to many people have either health issues or legal ones that would cause a need for DNA testing. Rarely are DNA tests done between mother and child.
The scarry part here is that our legal system relies heavily upon DNA testing.
The two cases documented where both women but certainly it could happen to a male as well.
It leads me to wonder about paternity tests that come back negative. In some cases the women insist its not possible for it to be negative and that the man they claim is the father truly is.
Then there are criminal cases where DNA exonerates someone yet all evidence points to them.

Amra, I saw something on TV years ago where a man's DNA from his saliva did not match the DNA in his sperm. I wonder if this happens very often and could explain some of the criminal cases you mentioned where DNA exonerates them yet all evidence points to them.

Maybe they should test DNA from several places on the suspect's body rather than just one source.

 

[Cypros]

About a year ago there was a case of an Egyptian baby with a parasitic twin that was covered all over the news

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6998205?GT1=6190

The parasitic twin was removed and the little girl survived the surgery, but I just read a few days ago that she died of a brain infection.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I'm kinda creeped out by this thread. :silenced: :silenced:

 

[blueclouds]

I'm kinda creeped out by this thread. :silenced: :silenced:

The human anatomy actually amazes me tremendously.

I do not know how these things happen. But wow, it surprises me daily how many babies truly are born "normal" when 1,000,000 + things can go wrong at any step of the way.

I feel like a caveman when I read this stuff.

 

[Jack]

I never heard the part about the DNA not matching. I have heard of this sort of "internal twin" thing. In older children and adults it is sometimes referred to as a parasitic twin. The one fetus became stunted as a tiny fetus and the other grew around it, absorbing into some area of their body. THis has been found in various organs that have been surgically removed. There was even one guy on TV that had the tiny (seriously deformed) face of his parasitic twin growing out of the side of his neck. :sick:

There are many documented cases of people having two diffeent DNAs. I've posted links about it before. Try googling "chimera DNA" and read some of the articles that come up. It truly is scary that we rely so heavily on DNA without fully exploring how many humans may actually be chimeras.

If you know anyone with two different eye colors they are probably a chimera.

Also, googling "genetic mosaic" will bring up a lot of stuff.