Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #81

[G&AMom]

Can you serve on a trial if you have been a victim in a case that went to trial?

That's one of the things that got me booted off. I had a family member who had recently been the victim of a crime (a mugging) and I was immediately kicked off. Plus I had been a legal secretary -- 20 years earlier, but apparently the two were enough to disqualify me.

 

[tinkabella]

bbm How was the plate screwed back on? Doesn't this require the use of screws? Did the 'Skater Boys' leave them neatly beside the removed licence plate? JA has never mentioned this detail.

Since she likes too add details after the fact, i expect her to now say that she picked up the plate and noticed some screws on the ground and picked them up too. Just like the gun with holster story showing up after she had time to explain that on direct and the passed down gun that we heard briefly on during re-direct.

If skaters took off that plate I don't think they would take the time to place it back on. The driver could be back at any moment. She's once again stereotyping the skaters as trouble makers who flip plates just like she did with the guy who warned bianca (gay, feminine, dramatic etc.)

 

[kscornfed]

JA is not a person who is capable of friendship. I have not heard from anybody that they were friends of hers as she was growing up, working in various restaurants, etc. She was always wrapped up in her boyfriends since the age of 15.

JA was rejected because in Travis' words she is a sociopath and a scammer. JA only used people. There were no friendships. I don't think that any jury members will have a problem sending her to death row. They'll "reject" her because she has proven herself to be inhuman and void of any proper emotion. She'll be alienated and alone in her cell. Who cares. Not I.

i can't even imagine how many servers there must be in CA alone who worked with jodi. i heard one of them on nancy grace, i think? but only that one. i would be willing to bet they all hated her. it sounds like work was only something she did for a little jingle in her pocket----she relied on her various men for big ticket items. she took a LOT of time off to take trips and run around so someone had to be covering her shifts or she didn't mind just leaving them shorthanded. i've always been curious how many jobs she was fired from because i bet it's a lot.

 

[perfectvirgo]

Oh please use your psychic abilty to send this question to the jury so they can put it in the basket.

Will do! :wave:

This is important, because if she saved the screws it points again to premeditation.

She didn't think to say she looked for the screws because there were no skaters and she had the screws safely inside the car ready for reassembly in SLC.

 

[G&AMom]

Hmmm no I don't think he cares that much at this point. Honestly it could have been a sincere question by one of the older fellas who didn't understand the term. Because that question was reviewed by all parties and still got in..someone took it seriously!

My grandma once went to a hair salon asking for "one of those blow jobs". Lol

Yeah, I guess there are two ways you could take that question. One would be sarcastic, and the other might be wondering if Jodi was insulted by the word because the juror had never heard it or didn't understand it, and wondered if Jodi did.

I was astonished the question got in. I guess the judge was being cautious. OTOH, I could be classifed as older (not that I really am, mind you!), and I've certainly heard that word. Don't these people go to the movies and watch TV? Maybe it's another sign that there is at least one Mormon on the jury, since I think they make a point of not watching movie where that word might be used.

 

[runningwater]

I've been sent notices x2 but it's been cancelled. But they sent a questionaire
to fill out with questions( I think) have you ever been part of (I think) the legal system or some such question.
I didn't understand what that meant, how to answer it...so I was just going
to ask them when I went in...

Years ago, I was the 2nd of 4 women who was attacked by a rapist in our area.
I wasn't raped, but I fought back and was beaten pretty bad. The last 2 women
were raped.
I was hypnotisted and was able to remember a distinctive ear ring he was wearing which is how they caught him. All 4 of us remembered the funny
ear ring somewhere buried in the depths of our minds.
Anyhow, I didn't have to testify...the 2 who were raped did.

How do you answer a questionair with that kind of story?

I had nightmares for years...
I love you gals...I have never spoken of it to anyone but my DH...
I don't know why...just couldn't...
It's good to have a place to be able to speak freely
Thank You All So Much!!!:heartbeat:

 

[bsk]

Here is my question:

Is there any logical reason why she refilled the 3 gas cans in Salt Lake City if she was not driving through Arizona on her trip home? I first assumed it was to remain "off the grid" in terms of purchases in Arizona on the trip back but she didn't go that way.

Do you think she filled those gas cans in SLC to further corroborate her story about filling the gas cans to avoid spending more money on higher priced gas in California? I assume she had burned all her evidence by that point, so she didn't need the full gas cans anymore...

SLC to Reno looks like a long drive through a lot of nothing, so perhaps she could have wanted extra gas there. And it could be that she detoured somewhere in Nevada to burn the evidence. I would have thought she got rid of everything before hitting what she thought was a checkpoint at Hoover Dam, but she still had the third gas can in SLC so who knows.

 

[perfectvirgo]

Since she likes too add details after the fact, i expect her to now say that she picked up the plate and noticed some screws on the ground and picked them up too. Just like the gun with holster story showing up after she had time to explain that on direct and the passed down gun that we heard briefly on during re-direct.

If skaters took off that plate I don't think they would take the time to place it back on. The driver could be back at any moment. She's once again stereotyping the skaters as trouble makers who flip plates just like she did with the guy who warned bianca (gay, feminine, dramatic etc.)

So many after-the-fact details will not escape the jury's notice.

And frankly the imaginary stereotypical plate-flipping skaters are ludicrous when you stop and think about it!

 

[thefragile7393]

oh look its JB giving commentary on HLN on JA. Of course he says CA and JA aren't alike.......yeesh. Their CRIMES aren't alike true but as sociopath/psychopaths go...very similar. Even he thinks JA is toast though.

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[kayice]

She could have initially parked it around the corner and then when she went to "leave" brought it into the garage knowing the roommate was gone to work.

In her interrogation with Flores, Jodi tends to skip around with her stories---she talked about parking around the corner with her U-Haul and how Travis invited her to stay the week. Trickles of truth, mixed in her lie batter.
Ever notice how Travis invited, begged her, guilted her, was soooo jealous....always Travis' doing, never Jodi.

To listen to her... one wonders why she took a trip she couldn't afford, even bothered with him and stabbed 27 times, slit his throat and shot him in the head. 'Cause according to Jodi, she could take him or leave him. :banghead:

 

[scorpio24]

So, did Ryan Burns (or anyone else in Utah) actually ride in the rental car with Jodi? If so, what did they see (i.e. Kool-aid stains) or smell (i.e. gas fumes that would give you a headache)?

I always thought they took Ryan's car, but recent posts seem to indicate otherwise. TIA

 

[Softail]

So, did Ryan Burns (or anyone else in Utah) actually ride in the rental car with Jodi? If so, what did they see (i.e. Kool-aid stains) or smell (i.e. gas fumes that would give you a headache)?

I always thought they took Ryan's car, but recent posts seem to indicate otherwise. TIA

No he didn't. I was just watching his testimony this morning, as I had not seen it before. I actually feel kind of sorry for the guy. He was totally used by Jodi. I'm a little surprised that the cop didn't look in her car. :waitasec:

 

[tinkabella]

So many after-the-fact details will not escape the jury's notice.

And frankly the imaginary stereotypical plate-flipping skaters are ludicrous when you stop and think about it!

exactly!!

I just find it so weird that someone who discovers a plate in front of their car wouldn't look immediately to check their front and back plates to make sure it wasn't theirs. How many of us would just take a plate off the ground and just toss it into the car without checking your car first?? NO WAY. I believe she went through hoover dam (and if thats the truth) with her plates on correct, only when she got across the dam and into Utah did she flip her plates. She wanted to be stopped in Utah.

 

[kayice]

Especially from a rental car, where you might get charged more money that you never had in the first place.

 

[KMouse]

So, did Ryan Burns (or anyone else in Utah) actually ride in the rental car with Jodi? If so, what did they see (i.e. Kool-aid stains) or smell (i.e. gas fumes that would give you a headache)?

I always thought they took Ryan's car, but recent posts seem to indicate otherwise. TIA

Jodi followed Ryan to the PPL meeting. Leslie Udy was a passenger in JA's rental when they went to Chili's after the meeting. Leslie didn't notice if the floor mats were there or not. Leslie said it was dark and she didn't notice. She didn't notice stains on the seat either.

 

[G&AMom]

I've been sent notices x2 but it's been cancelled. But they sent a questionaire
to fill out with questions( I think) have you ever been part of (I think) the legal system or some such question.
I didn't understand what that meant, how to answer it...so I was just going
to ask them when I went in...

Years ago, I was the 2nd of 4 women who was attacked by a rapist in our area.
I wasn't raped, but I fought back and was beaten pretty bad. The last 2 women
were raped.
I was hypnotisted and was able to remember a distinctive ear ring he was wearing which is how they caught him. All 4 of us remembered the funny
ear ring somewhere buried in the depths of our minds.
Anyhow, I didn't have to testify...the 2 who were raped did.

How do you answer a questionair with that kind of story?

I had nightmares for years...
I love you gals...I have never spoken of it to anyone but my DH...
I don't know why...just couldn't...
It's good to have a place to be able to speak freely
Thank You All So Much!!!:heartbeat:

Sending you many many cyber ((((hugs)))

People say this place is therapy and I agree. It is astonishing and heartbreaking how many posters here have been the victim, or a family member of a victim, of such terrible crimes. I'm really glad they were able to catch your attacker.

Would it really be so difficult to take your name off the jury list? Like I said in another post, it took me forever to get my husband's name off the list after he died. Sometimes I used to think about having him exhumed and trundling his coffin down there just so they'd get the message. And that's nothing compared to your experience. Probably in the far distant future this kind of thing will be easily dealt with and people will look back and shake their heads.

 

[DebinGA]

No he didn't. I was just watching his testimony this morning, as I had not seen it before. I actually feel kind of sorry for the guy. He was totally used by Jodi.

I've seen pics posted of Ryan looking about 50 lbs. lighter than in his court appearance. One of his texts to Jodi said something like, "I hope you won't play hard to get next time..haha", so I can imagine Jodi seeing Ryan as a possible life-after-I-kill-Travis opportunity. He was fit and attractive in earlier pics, and described as an "up and comer" in PPL like Travis.

 

[scorpio24]

No he didn't. I was just watching his testimony this morning, as I had not seen it before. I actually feel kind of sorry for the guy. He was totally used by Jodi.

I watched DB's hand testimony yesterday. I felt sorry for him, too, until he refused to give a straight answer about things he had already said. I thought, "Good grief! What kind of spell does this woman cast over men that they will LIE under oath for her?" I wouldn't even expect my husband to do that. He's too honest!

But you're right about Ryan Burns. He WAS completely used and he's blessed that he was only her alibi!

(P.S. Every time I hear the term "love sack" I think of the 80's song "Love Shack." Can't help it. Used to love that tune. Now JA's ruined it, too, along with Tootsie Pops, Pop Rocks & even Little Red Riding Hood!) :banghead:

 

[VALee]

They can do a "mock" jury. I know that there was one done in the Peterson case.

Mock jury, I thought that's what websleuths was?


Fact 1: largest jury ever

Fact 2: very diverse group of people from all over the world

Fact 3: respectful, we do not verbalize anything, we submit all of our questions in writing

Fact 4: our questions are reviewed by representatives of both sides, both are free to answer or we will answer for them

Fact 5: equal representation, if a representative is not available, we often will answer for the other side, sometimes even answer ourselves

Fact 6: we are a resource of information for both prosecution and defense

Fact 7: we continually use references (ie. quote each other) when responding to ensure credit is given and q/a flow smoothly

Fact 8: experienced team, we have more 'seat time' than any jury, anywhere

Fact 9: we save taxpayers a ton, since we are all volunteers here

Fact 10: we follow instructions, those that refuse are removed from the jury and their comments are stricken from the record.

I don't know about anyone else, but I believe we have this mock jury thing down to a science, in fact we probably have a verified scientist in here somewhere...

 

[callyn]

I'm sorry if you guys have seen this but it's worth seeing again. This is utterly hilarious...check out this fantasy video of Jodi on the stand:

Jodi Arias Trial: unseen footage - YouTube

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh: Still laughing. Truly hilarious. :rocker: