Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #82

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  • #861
I'm going to give her a little benefit of the doubt and say she's told 5,398 lies

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Usually people state their name which would be one but she never even stated her name on the record.
 
  • #862
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/11/jodi-arias-victim-or-sociopath/

As a psychiatrist, the question I get almost daily is, “so what’s the deal with Jodi”? Is she a battered woman, an obsessive woman, a femme fatal or a sociopath?

Here is the real problem with labeling Arias as a sociopath. This condition starts in the young teen years, if not before. It is a persistent and consistent behavior over the first three to four decades of the individual- some say for a lifetime. No one has come forward with any prior behavioral issues, legal issues, problems with work, family or friends. She was reportedly a very "good girl" in high school and very “normal.” At this time there are no known problems with previous boyfriends.

Jodi Arias, as you can see, fits the sociopath profile in many, many ways, except for the most important criteria. There is no past history. Based on this, unless there is much we do not know she does not technically meet the DSM IV criteria as a sociopath.

bbm

That's a very interesting article, thanks for the link.

In the end, though, I would disagree with the author's conclusions. She says Jodi was "obsessively in love" with Travis. Well, I haven't seen signs that Jodi loved anybody but herself. She wanted him & his money, but that's not love. The author also said Jodi was delusional. Isn't delusional seeing something that isn't there? Not literally, but seeing a relationship with someone that doesn't exist? I don't think Jodi was delusional at all. I think she was well aware that she was losing Travis, and had been aware for a long time.
 
  • #863
I understood that all of the bedrooms (4) were unpstairs.

This may be correct, I have seen pics inside the house, but still no floor plan to determine that. But one of the room mates says to Det Flores that they clean the bathroom they use upstairs, and TA cleaned his own bath as well as the guest one downstairs. That sounds like they were all upstairs.
 
  • #864
Could someone explain to me when Juan is CE Jodi about Travis shaving why she won't admit to what she said on the tape?Why is this important for Juan?Thanks
 
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I happen to enjoy some of her work.
 

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  • #867
Could someone explain to me when Juan is CE Jodi about Travis shaving why she won't admit to what she said on the tape?Why is this important for Juan?Thanks

:dunno: Because she is a sociopath and doesn't want to admit things.
 
  • #868
Didn't some inmate give FCA cornrows?

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Remember Misty Croslin Corn Rows
 
  • #869
Ignoring the first comment. Touchy much?

Jodi's "art" isn't good. There are artists with brilliant imaginations, there are artists with superb technical skill, and some with both. Jodi has none. She regurgitates the same lifeless copies of other people's portraits with flat colours, flat lighting, flat shading. The facial features are all identical in the way a young person tends to draw from what they "think" a nose, an eye etc looks like rather than what she actually sees. It's not stylistic but a lack of talent. There is nothing unique or original. It's something you would see in any 16 year old's notebook.

Sorry, but there are way too many remarkably talented young artists (Jodi is thirty-something...) who deserve praise while crap like this gets attention and sells for nearly 1k a piece. Browse through deviantart or conceptart.org. Yes, if you look, there is stellar talent of all ages. A crapload of true young talent on those sites, 15, 16, 17 year olds who are so far beyond what Jodi will ever accomplish.

Art school means nothing. You can tell when a person has true talent and she simply does not. Go to those forums, filled with verified professionals with breath-taking portfolios, and ask them for their opinion and tell them the age of the artist. They will advise the "artist" to keep her day job, I will guarantee you.

Again, sorry, but in an area where so few people get the recognition they deserve, it frustrates me to see junk like hers being given so much attention. Those pictures would not be selling for even a dollar if her name weren't attached to them.

Agree ... I've been on interview panels admitting people into an art college and she wouldn't have gotten in. She wouldn't have gotten past the first round for the exact reasons you state. You have to show some unique ability in either your conceptual thinking or in application of materials. She shows neither. Basically the idea is you can 'teach' the technical sides, but you can't teach creative intelligence (although it can be developed). That's pretty much where she falls down, on the imagination front.
 
  • #870
I have always said that parts of the tape sound blurred/slurred and not a clear as others, as if it was altered or it wasn't Travis at all!

That's because they had to basically have NASA make Travis' end of the conversation audible. The sound engineer testified on the stand before the recording was played in court. He would be able to know if the recording was fake or parts were fake.
 
  • #871
Jeez, reading all the "motions" from the defense is almost mindboggling. (aka...scrambling??...)

They didn't want much admitted into the trial did they?


And, as a mother of a very talented daughter who is an artist, I have to say, JA's artwork is very immature and there is no depth to it. But, really...she has no depth to herself, so it can't transfer to her 'art'.
 
  • #872
I found it so interesting when she was describing the "office scene"...She was so careful to describe herself lying on the floor up near the baseboards. I've been waiting to hear what evidence they may have found in the office. Has anything been mentioned about this yet?

She said he threw a CD (one of those she said she brought to him of church excursion pics) and it bounced off the wall and landed on her head or clipped her bangs or some such, I've been waiting for that CD to come into evidence as it must still be in the office and the only reason she mentioned it. I never believed the office sex thing, she initially told Flores they 'had sex in the bedroom and then down in the office' as if they always did that, when she told it in court he practically raped her in the office. But there must be some evidence in the office she's trying to make seem normally since she'd been in there.

Did they fingerprint her check(s) to see if he'd ever touched them or she brought them with her?
 
  • #873
Agree ... I've been on interview panels admitting people into an art college and she wouldn't have gotten in. She wouldn't have gotten past the first round for the exact reasons you state. You have to show some unique ability in either your conceptual thinking or in application of materials. She shows neither. Basically the idea is you can 'teach' the technical sides, but you can't teach creative intelligence (although it can be developed). That's pretty much where she falls down, on the imagination front.

Piece of cardboard from a legal pad and a handful of colored pencils. Not too bad.
 

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  • #874
Can't wait for tomorrow! Don't forget to calculate in the time change everyone, so that no one misses any testimony!
 
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Can't wait for tomorrow! Don't forget to calculate in the time change everyone, so that no one misses any testimony!

10:30 AM Pacific
10:30 AM AZ time
11:30 AM Mountain
12:30 PM Central
1:30 PM Eastern
2:30 PM Atlantic

Is that correct?
 
  • #877
Piece of cardboard from a legal pad and a handful of colored pencils. Not too bad.

We would have suggested Graphic Design or Illustration, but the thing is it's an extremely tough industry, they all are. Out of a graduating class of say 30 only a few will be able to launch / maintain a career, if that. She's 30, and really if she was that keen on it she would have studied, she didn't. People who do commercial photography do a long difficult course and when they start in the industry they work as photography assistants before they even get a look in. I know it's harsh, but that's just the way it is. She hadn't even started doing the hard yards it takes to call herself an 'artist'.
 
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What about Dr Horn saying on the stand that the defensive knife wounds on TA's hands came before the gunshot because in his opinion TA would not have the voluntary muscle control after the gunshot throught the temporal lobe?

He did say a shot there would shock the brain but I believe he also said it wouldn't completely incapacitate him; like I said, I'm torn about this but I really don't think she went there to 'humanely' kill him (wasn't that what she said to Flores 'The least I could have done was make it humane and quick' or words to that effect)?
 
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