Interview with Mike Thompson

[In da Middle]

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You "nailed it" as to WHY the evidence points to DB and JI ...

MOO MOO and MOO ...

What "evidence"? I see only statements and opinions, not evidence which is what is required in a case like this.



I think we are all getting off track of the thread title. This is supposed to be about the interview with Mike Thompson........

 

[DeAnn]

BBM: Do you have a link to this ? TIA !

And, do you have any links that there is a NO backup in this case ?


So ... as to "there is no backup in the case" -- this is how I made this "assumption" that it is possible there is back-up:

I was reading a "comment" in a "blog section" of a website which I am NOT allowed to quote here because of the TOS ... And this person who "commented" stated that there was a back-up in the labs because of the high murder rate in K City ... while this person did not state WHO they worked for, it was obvious this person had "knowledge" of "something" ...

I was curious -- so when I did a search on K City, I found an article about the high murder rate ...

Another thought : Lab results can take days, weeks, months and even years to come back ... NOT to be snarky but this is REAL LIFE -- NOT television CSI shows ...

MOO ...

there hasn't been a baby Lisa development for the information to be included in an article. Once there is a development that warrants a news story, the information will be included in an article. I can share the link at that time.

You don't have to believe me.

On a personal basis, my friend was murdered in July 2010. It took almost six weeks to get important evidence back because of the backup. Some cases couldn't be prosecuted primarily burglary because crime lab took so long to process. But there have been numerous stories about steps the police and city have taken to get more money for the crime lab and building a new crime lab. The backup isn't what it use to be in murder cases.

This isn't a murder case either. Murder cases get the highest priority normally. No one has told me this but one would guess that the Baby Lisa case moved even ahead of those. I don't know that for sure. All I know is what police say that there was no major evidence not processed by the crime lab that was outstanding. I asked the question actually after someone raised the issue here. Hope this helps.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

there hasn't been a baby Lisa development for the information to be included in an article. Once there is a development that warrants a news story, the information will be included in an article. I can share the link at that time.

You don't have to believe me.

On a personal basis, my friend was murdered in July 2010. It took almost six weeks to get important evidence back because of the backup. Some cases couldn't be prosecuted primarily burglary because crime lab took so long to process. But there have been numerous stories about steps the police and city have taken to get more money for the crime lab and building a new crime lab. The backup isn't what it use to be in murder cases.

This isn't a murder case either. Murder cases get the highest priority normally. No one has told me this but one would guess that the Baby Lisa case moved even ahead of those. I don't know that for sure. All I know is what police say that there was no major evidence not processed by the crime lab that was outstanding. I asked the question actually after someone raised the issue here. Hope this helps.

Sorry about your friend DeAnn. So you personally talked to someone in the police dept. about the crime lab or someone you know did?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

RED is by ME ... and MOO ...

What you consider evidence, I do not. Let's go through your list.

1. Lawyering up within a few days of baby missing
Not evidence of a crime

:waitasec: Let's see ... they have 1, 2, 3 "defense attorneys" -- 2 local and 1 from New York ... :waitasec: Oh ... and the lawyer from NY brought in their own PI ...


2. Refusing to be interviewed separately
Not evidence of a crime

This is SOP by LE to SEPARATE the hubby and wife -- BF / GF ... Besides, JI is a "grown man" and DB is a "grown woman". JMO ... but DB has been the more "controlling person" during the interviews ... JMO, but I think DB is afraid that JI may slip -- or vice-versa ...


3. Drunken mother who things she may have passed out
Not evidence she harmed her child

A "drunken mother" who has 3 children in the home and passes out -- I would call that NEGLECT ... :waitasec: Is "neglect" a crime ? While it may not be evidence she harmed her but DID AN ACCIDENT OCCUR ?


4. Clothes removed as evidence of what Lisa was supposed to be wearing
Not sure how that automatically counts as evidence against the parents

IIRC, the clothes taken that are listed in the Search Warrant "might match" the clothes that the parents told LE Lisa was last wearing.


5. Mother who never checked on sick baby for ten hours
Evidence of neglect, not murder

Yes -- evidence of neglect ... and anything is possible when a baby is neglected ... could it have been an accident ?


6. Cadaver dog hit in bdrm
Evidence!!!

Yes ... :waitasec: sure wish we knew WHAT the dog HIT ON ...


7. mother fails poly
According to DB herself, which may or may not be the truth as it has never been confirmed by LE

LE has confirmed NOTHING about poly's in this case. JMO ... but DB knows she failed that poly ... and LE knows it too ...


8. no evidence of JI wanting to take poly since Oct
But yet there was evidence of LE not required one of him immediately after BL went missing, which is the best time to do a LDT

Again, LE has confirmed NOTHING about poly's in this case ...


9. No pleas for child from anyone in family
Evidence of being bad parents, uncaring, not murder

JMO ... but their "silence" is "hurting my ears" ... it is "deafening".

IF someone DID kidnap Lisa, then why aren't they "screaming from the rooftops" for LE to help find their baby ?


10. no evidence of an abduction
The only way you know this is if you know evidence that LE has that does not point to an abduction

Hmmm, not necessarily ... IF there was evidence of a "kidnapper", wouldn't LE have some sort of obligation to tell the people in the neighborhood that a kidnapper is on the loose ?


11. monitor on, but mother doesn't hear a thing
Was the monitor on when she went to sleep? Is this linked somewhere?

Not sure if the monitor was on ... but Deborah herself admitted that she was "passed out drunk" that night ... IDK ... do people hear monitors or anything else when they are "passed out drunk" ?

How very convenient ...


12. Their dog doesn't bark
Wasn't the dog in the back? Who said the intruder went through the back?

Dogs will bark immediately if it is someone they do NOT know on their "territory" ... and they can sense things "a mile away" ... DB/JI's dog should have BARKED even if it was in the back IF an intruder came on their property ...

:waitasec: unless someone gave the dog some "boxed wine" or some other goodies ...

And JMO but their dog NOT barking indicates that there was NO intruder ...


13. No evidence of parents trying to be cleared so case can move forward
This is standard procedure until either a perp is caught or confesses

SOP is for LE to CLEAER the Parents FIRST -- then LE can move outwards ...

Not happening ... any time soon anyway ...


Finally, the town was showing up with the torches and pitchforks. They were calling it a vigil so they asked them to get off their lawn.

Oh yes ... the vigils that DB and JI did not want at their house ... :waitasec: It sure sounds to me like DB and JI want the public to FORGET Baby Lisa ...

Sorry ... not until she is FOUND !

MOO ...

 

[DeAnn]

Sorry about your friend DeAnn. So you personally talked to someone in the police dept. about the crime lab or someone you know did?

thank you. nick was and is an angel.

And I raised the question.

 

[DeAnn]

RED is by ME ... and MOO ...




Oh yes ... the vigils that DB and JI did not want at their house ... :waitasec: It sure sounds to me like DB and JI want the public to FORGET Baby Lisa ...

Sorry ... not until she is FOUND !

MOO ...

If they are going to be on Dr. Phil in 10 days, that certainly will ensure the public doesn't forget baby Lisa.

 

[Minette]

DeAnn, I am so sorry to hear about the murder of your friend. I cannot imagine.

I know GA had only the best intentions in showing photos to Mike Thompson, but HOW I wish he had not 'tainted' this witness. Whatever MT saw could have been completely unrelated to Lisa's disappearance, but it if wasn't now his testimony and value as a witness have been compromised. And that goes for either the prosecution *or* the defense using his testimony.

 

[Jacie Estes]

RED is by ME ... and MOO ...





Oh yes ... the vigils that DB and JI did not want at their house ... :waitasec: It sure sounds to me like DB and JI want the public to FORGET Baby Lisa ...

Sorry ... not until she is FOUND !

MOO ...

If there is evidence why haven't the parents been arrested?

Edith/Vigilannie had no right to be on their lawn.

 

[DeAnn]

DeAnn, I am so sorry to hear about the murder of your friend. I cannot imagine.

I know GA had only the best intentions in showing photos to Mike Thompson, but HOW I wish he had not 'tainted' this witness. Whatever MT saw could have been completely unrelated to Lisa's disappearance, but it if wasn't now his testimony and value as a witness have been compromised. And that goes for either the prosecution *or* the defense using his testimony.

Thank you and in case it wasn't clear....my friend was killed by a burglar inside his home in south Kansas City. So my personal experience is with the crime lab. I had a huge concern about the backlog. It was of personal interest because his killer (now convicted) walked the streets for six weeks. So I've kept up on this issue because of how it struck home. And I'm so grateful steps have been taken to help get other friends and family answers sooner.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

If tHere is evidence why haven't the parents been arrested?

Edith/Vigilannie had no right to be on their lawn.

Becuase they do NOT have the BODY !

MOO ...

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Becuase they do NOT have the BODY !

MOO ...

Are you saying that there has to be a body before an arrest?

 

[DeAnn]

If there is evidence why haven't the parents been arrested?

Edith/Vigilannie had no right to be on their lawn.

I have no specific knowledge in this case but based on a prior case in this same county...there can be evidence but the prosecutor won't charge and thus no arrest made.

Police can make arrests. They cannot charge with felonies. That decision in Missouri is up to prosecutors. Why would police arrest if they know the prosecutor won't charge? Whether Clay, Jackson, Cass or Platte, KCPD talks to the prosecutor before making an arrest in virtually every case but certainly a high-profile one.

Police wanted to arrest Shon Pernice right away but it took 18 months for a prosecutor to take the case to a Clay County grand jury.

Just trying to stick to the facts.

ETa: Pernice goes to trial in a few weeks. His wife's body has never been found. Same county in Kansas City (KC covers parts of four counties)

 

[Jacie Estes]

To my kge, no one had hired attorneys right away in that case up there. LE was able to go in there and really look around right away. Did that family give specifics of how they believed the intruder entered? Lisa's parents did and steered them in that direction...having LE concentrate on a window as an entry point.

I believe LE would have solved the Irwin case if not for four different criminal defense attorneys stepping in. BTW, they are suspects but are unable to announce it because of legal restraints. We live in a politically correct society and LE is always a target for Hired Guns. More children are being murdered and it is getting increasingly difficult to charge the perp.

LE needs to be able to come down hard on those closest to the victim. Too bad they are not even allowed to do that anymore w/o a slick attorney willing to charge the officers with being mean to their client.

These babies rights/lives don't matter to some defense attorneys...Have you noticed?

BsBM

LE were in the Irwin house; they had access to it at all times.

Are you saying that KCMOPD cowered because of the attorneys? You don't know KCMOPD, they are well trained and very professional.

 

[Minette]

Murder cases have been successfully prosecuted before without a body but with ample evidence of other sorts, including witness testimony & other circumstantial evidence. That is one reason I believe that LE actually has very little to form a case against anyone. I believe that they WOULD arrest DB if they thought they had a strong enough case, whether or not Lisa is ever found.

I would think very poorly indeed of LE who flinched simply because defense attorneys were involved with a case. Plus, if defense attorneys intimidate LE from making arrests, then in our country in which every defendant is guaranteed the right to attorney why are our prisons so over-crowded? I would say that there are a lot of convicted felons out there who would be very surprised to learn that having an attorney should have prevented them from being arrested and tried. Defense attorneys PLUS a weak or inadequately proven case might indeed get someone off--but that's how our system is intended to work.

 

[lonetraveler]

No, I don't recall hearing anything about MT having this one sided conversation with the man with a baby. Frankly I am very skeptical of this sighting. Also, this article says he was shown the photos by GA before he went to the police to view the line up (which I suspected all alone).

I agree. This is the first time that I have heard about this conversation too. I have a suspicion that he may be embellishing a bit to make the story more interesting.

 

[lonetraveler]

RED is by ME ... and MOO ...





Oh yes ... the vigils that DB and JI did not want at their house ... :waitasec: It sure sounds to me like DB and JI want the public to FORGET Baby Lisa ...

Sorry ... not until she is FOUND !

MOO ...

I totally agree with your (red) comments. Below is a link confirming that Deborah Bradley stated that the baby monitor was on.
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...al-new-details-about-night-baby-went-missing-

 

[lonetraveler]

Just in case someone wants to hear it from Deborah Bradley's own mouth that the baby monitor was on and is always on.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...ils-about-night-baby-went-missing-#84388439-1

Too bad the monitor doesn't have a video and recorder, huh?

 

[DeAnn]

BBM: Do you have a link to this ? TIA !

And, do you have any links that there is a NO backup in this case ?



MOO ...

Here ya go.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16593021/baby-lisas-parents-making-national-television-appearance

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Here ya go.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16593021/baby-lisas-parents-making-national-television-appearance

Thanks for the link to the article DeAnn. I find it interesting that Joe Tacopina appears to ok the interview with Dr Phil. Hopefully Joe's motive is to help find Lisa and not to line his own pockets.

 

[4Jacy]

If there is evidence why haven't the parents been arrested?

Sorry, don't know the answer to that, but I wish I did.


Edith/Vigilannie had no right to be on their lawn.

DB/JI are trying to raise two other children in their home. I think it is disgusting that Edith wants to have her vigils there. She has no right, no priviledge. Take it elsewhere Edith.

I am not saying I believe the JI/DB's are innocent, but those two little boys are and they do not need it their front yard!!!!