Intruder theories only - RDI theories not allowed! *READ FIRST POST* #2

[Tawny]

What are the similarities?

 

[Mama2JML]

Anyone aware of more info that may exist regarding this POI?

"Ramsey Inquiry Leads to Oceanside

October 17, 1997

SAN DIEGO — Investigators in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey asked police in suburban Oceanside for information about a man arrested 32 years ago on a sex charge, but they were unable to find any records about him.
Oceanside Police Sgt. Tom Bussey said that investigators from Boulder, Colo., were seeking information about a man who was arrested in Oceanside in 1965 on a misdemeanor indecent exposure charge. But the department does not keep records back that far, particularly on misdemeanor cases, Bussey said.

'We have absolutely no information on this man,' Bussey said.

The man, whose name has not been released, was reportedly living in Boulder, Colo., but left soon after the 6-year-old beauty queen was found strangled in her home Dec. 26.

Suzanne Laurion, spokeswoman for the district attorney's office in Boulder, said that the inquiry was routine and that the man was not considered a suspect. Police have contacted dozens of sex offenders registered in Boulder."​

http://articles.latimes.com/1997/oct/17/local/me-43738

 

[Jgrabko]

I attended an event with John Douglas once years ago. He's fairly convinced that the family is innocent. What seems to fit the most is someone that had an intense grudge against John Ramsey. He had recently laid off a number of people from Access Graphics, and the ransom note's money amount is almost the same as the amount he got as a bonus. It was someone that knew the house's layout, that JonBenét might have trusted to lead out of her bedroom, etc. The ransom note referred to a lot of popular movies, as well. I think murder was the original intention and kidnapping was never the plan. They wanted to make John suffer.

 

[Tawny]

It wasn't almost the same amount, it was exactly the same amount.

 

[icedtea4me]

It wasn't almost the same amount, it was exactly the same amount.

No, it was not exactly the same amount as the bonus was between $118,000 and $119,000.

 

[Tawny]

Link? I've only ever seen it be exactly $118k

 

[icedtea4me]

Link? I've only ever seen it be exactly $118k

"Patsy knew nothing about the amount of the bonus because I took care of the finances and we rarely talked about money. The 118,117.50 dollars I earned that year was deferred compensation, so there was no point discussing the matter with her." (DOI, pg 120)

 

[Muy Curioso]

Suppose for a moment that the killer really expected to get money (and not consider whether originally was a kidnapping for ransom that ended in murder, or a murder that was used to ask for money). In that case, don´t you think that the $ 118,000 would give us a lot of information about the killer?

 

[Tawny]

"Patsy knew nothing about the amount of the bonus because I took care of the finances and we rarely talked about money. The 118,117.50 dollars I earned that year was deferred compensation, so there was no point discussing the matter with her." (DOI, pg 120)

Thank you for proving what I was saying. It was an $118k bonus.

 

[icedtea4me]

Thank you for proving what I was saying. It was an $118k bonus.

So, to you, $118,117.50 is exactly the same amount as $118,000.

 

[tovarisch]

Suppose for a moment that the killer really expected to get money (and not consider whether originally was a kidnapping for ransom that ended in murder, or a murder that was used to ask for money). In that case, don´t you think that the $ 118,000 would give us a lot of information about the killer?

It does. Not every old lonely pedo from downtown could have obtained highly private info about some CEO`s bonus. Some connections requires.

 

[tovarisch]

Suppose for a moment that the killer really expected to get money (and not consider whether originally was a kidnapping for ransom that ended in murder, or a murder that was used to ask for money). In that case, don´t you think that the $ 118,000 would give us a lot of information about the killer?

It does. Not every old lonely pedo from downtown could have obtained highly private info about some CEO`s bonus. Connections required.

 

[tovarisch]

Suppose for a moment that the killer really expected to get money (and not consider whether originally was a kidnapping for ransom that ended in murder, or a murder that was used to ask for money). In that case, don´t you think that the $ 118,000 would give us a lot of information about the killer?

It does. Some connections required to get highly private info about bonus. Not every lonely pedo from downtown so connected, my thinking.

 

[Global Justice Ops]

It does. Some connections required to get highly private info about bonus. Not every lonely pedo from downtown so connected, my thinking.

Excellent point. These past few days I have been in Boulder. It was my first time but probably not my last. The house is very compact and bulky in person, smaller really versus what I was perceiving in photographs.

What I wanted to share with everyone here is how DARK that neighborhood is at night. There is almost a complete absence of street lights, and the alleyway is pitch black. From Baseline to Cascade is easily covered in 2 minutes on foot. When I walked down 15th for the first time on the night of the 18th, I was surprised how fast the house came up. The house lights are kept on at night, kinda eerie to me.

 

[tovarisch]

Sorry for triple postings. It`s my old laptop, not posting- posting whenever it wants.

 

[Jgrabko]

The bonus thing also, to be, tends to disprove family involvement. Why would the father implicate himself by using such an exact amount and not a traditional figure, like... $100,000? Obviously the figure was meant to be significant. It wasn't chosen randomly.

The body, at the same time, was placed in such a manner that ANYONE searching downstairs would have found it. It was a display.

 

[andreww]

The bonus thing also, to be, tends to disprove family involvement. Why would the father implicate himself by using such an exact amount and not a traditional figure, like... $100,000? Obviously the figure was meant to be significant. It wasn't chosen randomly.

The body, at the same time, was placed in such a manner that ANYONE searching downstairs would have found it. It was a display.

Wrong wrong wrong. The $118,000 amount was used to cast suspicion on Johns business associates. Just like the paintbrush attack and garrote were meant to cast suspicion on some sexual sadist. Everything the Ramsey's did that morning, and have done since, has been an effort to cast suspicion away from themselves.


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[Mama2JML]

The bonus thing also, to be, tends to disprove family involvement. Why would the father implicate himself by using such an exact amount and not a traditional figure, like... $100,000?

AGREED.

...& 2.5 handwritten pages, on the Rs' notepad, in ink from a pen returned to it's proper location.

...& the paintbrush.

Distancing? Not so much.

Not. At. ALL.

Obviously the figure was meant to be significant. It wasn't chosen randomly.

The amount was quite likely significant to the killer. As is the case with so many other elements of this mystery, until the perp is identified, it will remain a question mark. There are a number of interesting & plausible theories regarding the $118,000 ransom demand.

The body, at the same time, was placed in such a manner that ANYONE searching downstairs would have found it. It was a display.

I tend to agree.


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[Tawny]

So, to you, $118,117.50 is exactly the same amount as $118,000.

Basically, yes. Because people COMMONLY round to the nearest large number. In this case, people would round down.

 

[andreww]

AGREED.

...& 2.5 handwritten pages, on the Rs' notepad, in ink from a pen returned to it's proper location.

...& the paintbrush.

Distancing? Not so much.

Not. At. ALL.

The amount was quite likely significant to the killer. As is the case with so many other elements of this mystery, until the perp is identified, it will remain a question mark. There are a number of interesting & plausible theories regarding the $118,000 ransom demand.

I tend to agree.


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Really??? The note was written on the Ramsey's stationary because they had no other options at 2:00 a.m.!!! Did you expect them to go shopping for a pen, paper and garrotte kit?? And you think the body was on display?? It was in the most obscure place in the house and took at least four frigging searches to find!