Iran ; explosions across Tehran following Israeli and US strikes, 28 February 2026

[Sarahlou]

spain's not siding with iran. this is more of the "with us or against us" false dichotomy.

Exactly. Being against the attack is not siding with Iran.

“Remember that one can be against a hateful regime, as is the case with the Iranian regime … and at the same time be against an unjustified, dangerous military intervention outside of international law.” - Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez

 

[rvlvr]

spain's not siding with iran. this is more of the "with us or against us" false dichotomy.

I’m old enough to remember when the French took a principled stand against the Iraq war and ‘freedom fries’ became a thing, what a time to be alive that was.

 

[Lebowski]

I’m old enough to remember when the French took a principled stand against the Iraq war and ‘freedom fries’ became a thing, what a time to be alive that was.

and the fact that they turned out to be right about iraqi WMDs never registered with the "freedom fries" crowd.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2028583482390106396

 

[Jade]

That is a guidance document that defines the administration's worldview, prioritizes threats, and sets broad goals for force posture. It is NOT an operational plan, that assigns missions, targets, or who is in charge of what.

It's overall policy, it does not change the decision tree or change anything in regard to operational control and decision making.

Trump and Hegseth don't appear to know that information.

That their policy directives do not change anything.

Are they that inexperienced and uniformed?

They appear to think they made changes in regard to operational control and decision making.

Historically different as it says in the document.

What a mess then.

All imo

 

[Ruminations]

My comment was in regards to your adamacy of "success" . I still find my comment truthful and honest.

Basically stating how claiming success too early can tarnish a speaker. And GW Bush was my comparison.

I am not, at all, trying to make comparisons between Iraq and Iran. However, as time goes on, more and more comparisons will be made. And hopefully with the positive outcomes you profess!

I also diaagree with your last statement. And Iwish you would express it as opinion rather than fact.....\]
We all have to follow the same rules here!!!
Keep the thread open!!!

mmoo, mooo.......

The comparison to "Mission accomplished" is apt.

There is no reason to think this is better advised than other Middle East wars.

MOO

 

[PrairieWind]

Spain is part of the EU, many people in the UK and the EU no longer view the USA as a reliable ally

Also Spain is not ‘siding’ with Iran

IMO

After Spain's position on Gibraltar, many in the UK don't see Spain as an ally. After Spain's deals with the PRC, many in the EU don't see Spain as a reliable team player

 

[MassGuy]

Trump and Hegseth don't appear to know that information.

That their policy directives do not change anything.

Are they that inexperienced and uniformed?

They appear to think they made changes in regard to operational control and decision making.

Historically different as it says in the document.

What a mess then.

All imo

No they don't. Please read that document closer. It does not say what you think it says. At all.

 

[Mysteries1974]

SECRETARY RUBIO: President Trump would love for the people of Iran to use this opportunity to rise up and remove these leaders, but the objective of this mission is to make sure Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons that can threaten us and our allies in the region

https://twitter.com/x/status/2028583482390106396

Translation, he wants the Iranian people to put their lives on the line to remove this puppet regime so that Trump and his cronies can install yet another puppet state that will let the USA/Israel drain Iran of it’s resources and leave the country in more disrepair than it was before America got involved.

Also, I don’t agree with the regime in Iran but anyone who knows what happened in Iran in 1953 knows that what’s happening now isn’t good for the Iranian people.

 

[Ruminations]

We can see the success with our own eyes, and through media reports. It is not in dispute that dozens of leaders are dead, countless missile stockpiles have been destroyed, dozens of launchers have been taken out, and the Iranian Navy has been decimated.

As for aground invasion, it is not feasible. Analysts say it would require 1.6 million troops, which is 30-40 times what is currently there. It would take many months to assemble something like that, and there is zero political will for it.

Any ground troops would almost certainly be special forces, demolishing facilities that cannot be taken out by air.

Well, I see a pile of rubble over school children, and a giant "Mission accomplished" sign, preceding a prolonged war.

MOO

 

[Mysteries1974]

Well, I see a pile of rubble over school children, and a giant "Mission accomplished" sign, preceding a prolonged war.

MOO

Anyone trying to glorify what we as America did in Iran is not worth conversing with. Most people glorifying it are denying the 80+ deaths of school children and the 500+ deaths that have occurred since this started

 

[MassGuy]

Well, I see a pile of rubble over school children, and a giant "Mission accomplished" sign, preceding a prolonged war.

MOO

I see a country without nuclear capabilities, without long range missile capabilities, and without the ability to fund and arm terror groups throughout the region.

I see the lives of countless innocent people saved.

I do not want a regime that chants "death to America" to actually be able to fulfill that promise.

 

[Ruminations]

and the fact that they turned out to be right about iraqi WMDs never registered with the "freedom fries" crowd.

Groundhog Day.

Bloody, violent Groundhog Day.

MOO

 

[Friday Fan]

Translation, he wants the Iranian people to put their lives on the line to remove this puppet regime so that Trump and his cronies can install yet another puppet state that will let the USA drain Iran of it’s resources and leave the country in more disrepair than it was before America got involved.

Also, I don’t agree with the regime in Iran but anyone who knows what happened in Iran in 1953 knows that what’s happening now isn’t good for the Iranian people.

I'm pretty sure the Iranian people are reminded of 1953 every day! That's the way Iran is. It certainly makes any regime change more challenging. (When the CIA was involved with overthrowing their prime minister and bringing back the shah)

I would love to see the IR topple, but it is a huge challenge because of this and numerous factors.

 

[Mysteries1974]

I see a country without nuclear capabilities, without long range missile capabilities, and without the ability to fund and arm terror groups throughout the region.

I see the lives of countless innocent people saved.

I do not want a regime that chants "death to America" to actually be able to fulfill that promise.

Cool, are we gonna bomb and remove Putin from Russia since clearly they also can’t be trusted with nuclear capabilities or is that energy only reserved for the Middle East?

Are we gonna stop sending money to Israel so they can carpet bong kids and do target practice on civilians?

No one agrees with the puppet regime that’s been in power for decades but no one should be agreeing with America destabilizing other countries

 

[leehull]

After Spain's position on Gibraltar, many in the UK don't see Spain as an ally. After Spain's deals with the PRC, many in the EU don't see Spain as a reliable team player

Believe me, most people in the UK see Spain as a greater ally than USA, however that is not what I said

Regardless Spain is part of the EU so your question about Starmer ‘siding’ with Spain/Iran over the US/EU does not make sense. It also heavily implies that Spain is siding with Iran which is blatantly false

Can we please stop with the ‘with us or against us’ rhetoric

 

[MassGuy]

Cool, are we gonna bomb and remove Putin from Russia since clearly they also can’t be trusted with nuclear capabilities or is that energy only reserved for the Middle East?

Are we gonna stop sending money to Israel so they can carpet bong kids and do target practice on civilians?

No one agrees with the puppet regime that’s been in power for decades but no one should be agreeing with America destabilizing other countries

You can't attack Russia BECAUSE they have nuclear capabilities. They are many things, but they are not suicidal.

I find it fascinating that you leave out the Hamas attacks, and ignore decades of suicide bombs that preceded that. That's astounding to me.

All funded by Iran.

 

[otto]

Reading this ... although this starts as a war against Iran, it looks like the US expects conflict to expand beyond Iran.

"The U.S. Department of State has called on Americans to immediately leave more than a dozen countries in the Middle East.

Due to "serious safety risks," Americans are being urged to depart using commercial transportation ⁠from Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, ‌the West Bank and Gaza, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, ⁠Syria, United Arab Emirates ⁠and Yemen, ⁠according ⁠to Mora Namdar, the State Department's assistant ⁠secretary for consular affairs."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/livestory/conflict-with-iran-9.7109761

 

[justtrish]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2028583482390106396

He had other great info during this as well. It clarified everything I had questions about. I say well done Mr. President.

 

[Magic8Ball]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2028583482390106396

Honestly, the best person to do the messaging re: mission goals for the US would be Sec. Rubio because of his outstanding communication skills, but that's not his job.

This article outlined the goals in what for me was the clearest mission statement I've seen to date:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-says-iran-strikes-last-best-chance-to-eliminate-the-intolerable-threats-posed-by-this-sick-regime/

Snipped from article:
After coming under criticism for failing to present a clear case for the operation to the American public, Trump lists four goals for the operation, in prepared remarks at a White House event.

One, destroying Iran’s missile capabilities <snip>
The second goal is to “annihilate” Iran’s navy <snip>
The third goal is to ensure Iran can never obtain a nuclear weapon.<snip>
The fourth goal for the operation that Trump lists is to ensure that Iran cannot continue to back proxy militia groups beyond its borders.