Ireland - Tina Satchwell, 45, Youghal, Co. Cork, 20 March 2017 *arrest*

[su5ie]

I don't understand how the scenario he states happened can be real .

In one of the articles I read yesterday it stated that tina had shards of glass stuck in her head . What is the explanation to that and why did he have to cut a dressing robe cord if all he did was held it against her neck .

Imo all lies as the coroner has said her neck was not broken and although cause of death could not be determined. It did not seem that she was strangled.

The image you get from his explanation is that the belt was held against Tina's neck in a way that had her positioned in a similar way that you would preform a back extension lying prone to the floor and the belt was held by both ends with rs arms extended. It is impossible to strangle someone this way unless you are behind them and they pushed against the cord or you pull from behind . Contrary to popular belief the hyoid bone does not always break in a strangulation. A person will die as long as oxygen is cut off from the brain .

Richard mentions tina not having sex with him and a couple of times he says he rubbed baby oil all over his wife's body . This imo can be a prelude or be part of foreplay . I wonder did he kill Tina because he initiated sex and once again she rebuffed his advances .
And the dressing robe was on the bed and conveniently to hand as she lay prone .

I do think there is truth in the lies rs is telling or should I say within his story there are facts they are just weaved or moulded to suit the narrative of RS being the victim and the perfect ,wonderful husband .

A good liar has to remember his lies and as Richard goes into way too much detail he would find this hard to recall . So for example, the murder weapon is the dressing gown belt , the mention of stairs could be that she
was buried thereoor it could be that they were upstairs but he says bottom of stairs . There is so many little clues and hints throughout all his interviews where looking back it seems he was planting words to see if he could outsmart the cops

If tina was strangled on the bed it may explain the shards of glass as during a struggle tina may have hit her head off a bedside lamp , mirror or a glass of water placed on a locker . I definitely think he murdered tina in the bedroom .

 

[neteditor]

This article in The Journal has some evidence detail the live reporter didn't post:

Gardaí told Richard Satchwell description of wife Tina's death 'didn't make sense', trial hears

Satchwell was arrested for the murder of his wife in October 2023

www.thejournal.ie

 

[neteditor]

I don't understand how the scenario he states happened can be real .
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The only thing that makes sense is it isn't real. And the interviewing gardai knew it.

For me, the fact that he couldn't (or wouldn't) re-create exactly what happened during the interview is the biggest tell. Even amateur sleuths like us know strangling someone doesn't happen "in a flash". And everyone knows time seems to slow down during terrifying incidents, not speed up.

The only conclusion I can make is he cannot tell exactly how he killed her is because the real story doesn't give him a self defence angle.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say he killed her on Sunday night, and it was that night he spent thinking up the whole "She sent to me to Dungarvan and when I came back she was gone" alibi. He told her the monkeys weren't happening and she said she was leaving.

The glass evidence we haven't heard yet and I hope it is coming, they will have been able to tell if it was light-bulb glass.

I think he's far too much of a coward to look her in the face while he killed her, so ligature strangulation from behind makes sense to me, and explains the intact hyoid bone. Definitely used the dressing room cord (as you say, sticking to bits of truth to keep it easier to stay on message). I think he must have tied it into a knot, otherwise why would he mention the knot and cutting it (must have thought the guards would find it with her body and he needed a cover story).

I don't believe any of the bath/baby oil story. If you've been avoiding sex with your partner for years would you let them do something so obviously sensual? I know I wouldn't!

I also am very dubious about the claims she was violent to him. He's obviously controlling and manipulative, he's much taller and stronger than she (he carried her dead weight around several times). I hope her family is called to give evidence about that.

Mindful also that there must be a fair bit of evidence to come, forensics, pathology etc. I like the way the prosecution has presented it so far. Letting Jury see all the lies first, and how he continued to lie right up until he had absolutely no choice because they had her remains.

I'm veering also towards the bedroom as the locus.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

This article in The Journal has some evidence detail the live reporter didn't post:

Gardaí told Richard Satchwell description of wife Tina's death 'didn't make sense', trial hears

Satchwell was arrested for the murder of his wife in October 2023

www.thejournal.ie

“I’m going to prison, there will be no jury because I’m going to plead guilty,” Satchwell told gardaí in interviews.

Yet here we are, with a trial and him pleading not guilty. You couldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. JMO

 

[neteditor]

“I’m going to prison, there will be no jury because I’m going to plead guilty,” Satchwell told gardaí in interviews.

Yet here we are, with a trial and him pleading not guilty. You couldn't believe a single word out of his mouth. JMO

100%

 

[snooptroop88]

The only thing that makes sense is it isn't real. And the interviewing gardai knew it.

For me, the fact that he couldn't (or wouldn't) re-create exactly what happened during the interview is the biggest tell. Even amateur sleuths like us know strangling someone doesn't happen "in a flash". And everyone knows time seems to slow down during terrifying incidents, not speed up.

The only conclusion I can make is he cannot tell exactly how he killed her is because the real story doesn't give him a self defence angle.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say he killed her on Sunday night, and it was that night he spent thinking up the whole "She sent to me to Dungarvan and when I came back she was gone" alibi. He told her the monkeys weren't happening and she said she was leaving.

The glass evidence we haven't heard yet and I hope it is coming, they will have been able to tell if it was light-bulb glass.

I think he's far too much of a coward to look her in the face while he killed her, so ligature strangulation from behind makes sense to me, and explains the intact hyoid bone. Definitely used the dressing room cord (as you say, sticking to bits of truth to keep it easier to stay on message). I think he must have tied it into a knot, otherwise why would he mention the knot and cutting it (must have thought the guards would find it with her body and he needed a cover story).

I don't believe any of the bath/baby oil story. If you've been avoiding sex with your partner for years would you let them do something so obviously sensual? I know I wouldn't!

I also am very dubious about the claims she was violent to him. He's obviously controlling and manipulative, he's much taller and stronger than she (he carried her dead weight around several times). I hope her family is called to give evidence about that.

Mindful also that there must be a fair bit of evidence to come, forensics, pathology etc. I like the way the prosecution has presented it so far. Letting Jury see all the lies first, and how he continued to lie right up until he had absolutely no choice because they had her remains.

I'm veering also towards the bedroom as the locus.

The glass evidence might be a vehicle law enforcement can use to find out what actually happened to the victim because this perp's never, never going to tell them what actually happened, and will probably enjoy confusing LE to the extent possible, and discrediting his own dead victim to the extent possible.

I'm seeing one source saying Tina had shards in both arms, but other sources seem to suggest a single arm. How large are these shards? For someone to have actual shards in both arms and head-- the first thing that came to mind was someone flying into (and perhaps partially through) a windshield in a vehicular crash. Or maybe falling/flying/being pushed partially through a household window (thinner glass). Or maybe knocked into a glass curio or a portable bar or something. Arm/s and head-- that's something either fairly large she made forceful contact with or something small that he attacked her with, and jmo I would doubt it was a single blow. The only other alternative I can come up with is that he had the body hidden/"stored" somewhere for a time and the body was in contact with broken glass. And I find that doubtful because if that were the case, I would tend to think she'd have shards in other areas of the body as well. But I suppose it would still be possible.

Looking at another source here, they're specifying smaller shards in Tina's arm and head. If they're smaller, I would picture her lying on her side asleep and him going after her with a glass object or something containing glass. All just guesses, tho. Totally agreed that light bulb glass sounds like it's overwhelmingly likely.

 

[neteditor]

The glass evidence might be a vehicle law enforcement can use to find out what actually happened to the victim because this perp's never, never going to tell them what actually happened, and will probably enjoy confusing LE to the extent possible, and discrediting his own dead victim to the extent possible.

I'm seeing one source saying Tina had shards in both arms, but other sources seem to suggest a single arm. How large are these shards? For someone to have actual shards in both arms and head-- the first thing that came to mind was someone flying into (and perhaps partially through) a windshield in a vehicular crash. Or maybe falling/flying/being pushed partially through a household window (thinner glass). Or maybe knocked into a glass curio or a portable bar or something. Arm/s and head-- that's something either fairly large she made forceful contact with or something small that he attacked her with, and jmo I would doubt it was a single blow. The only other alternative I can come up with is that he had the body hidden/"stored" somewhere for a time and the body was in contact with broken glass. And I find that doubtful because if that were the case, I would tend to think she'd have shards in other areas of the body as well. But I suppose it would still be possible.

Looking at another source here, they're specifying smaller shards in Tina's arm and head. If they're smaller, I would picture her lying on her side asleep and him going after her with a glass object or something containing glass. All just guesses, tho. Totally agreed that light bulb glass sounds like it's overwhelmingly likely.

Or, he was strangling her in bed, she hit him with the lamp and was thrashing around in the broken glass on the bed as she struggled for her last breath?

Also important to know if the glass was pre or post mortem.

No blood evidence was found so she wasn't cut running about the house or through windows IMO.

(ETA: re-reading this I'm paranoid I sound a bit curt, apologies if so, arthritic fingers are giving me a hard time today.)

 

[neteditor]

I'm not sure if YT links are ok here, but I post this in hope they are not rule breaking.

This is the Sunday World newspaper's Crime World podcast playlist covering this trial. They sometimes mention a few things we don't get in live update reports:

 

[neteditor]

Quarter of a million yoyos for all these lies. *angry face*

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922275857088860514

 

[snooptroop88]

I'm not sure if YT links are ok here, but I post this in hope they are not rule breaking.

This is the Sunday World newspaper's Crime World podcast playlist covering this trial. They sometimes mention a few things we don't get in live update reports:

Watched this and much thanks! He was trying to unload the freezer he stored Tina's remains in! Is that right? This guy is absolutely unbelievable. Based on his behavior, it would seem far, far more likely that everything he's saying about her "volatility"-- it's far more likely that applies to him. If anything, she was probably terrified of him. Agreed w/people on here saying she was going to leave him. I doubt she told him, but since he's living with her at the time, he probably figured it out. And he might even have killed her for what he perceived to be her even wanting to leave him.

I don't think he's ever going to tell them how he murdered her. He seems like enough of a sadist and control freak that he won't let go of it. And it's going to be brutally difficult for them to ID cause of death because he made sure they didn't find her remains until it would be too late, and that was probably by design. I mean, her remains had to be largely skeletonized after six years.

That's vile, honestly. But they'll get him now. Poor, poor Tina having to deal with such a creature.

 

[neteditor]

Watched this and much thanks! He was trying to unload the freezer he stored Tina's remains in! Is that right? This guy is absolutely unbelievable. Based on his behavior, it would seem far, far more likely that everything he's saying about her "volatility"-- it's far more likely that applies to him. If anything, she was probably terrified of him. Agreed w/people on here saying she was going to leave him. I doubt she told him, but since he's living with her at the time, he probably figured it out. And he might even have killed her for what he perceived to be her even wanting to leave him.

I don't think he's ever going to tell them how he murdered her. He seems like enough of a sadist and control freak that he won't let go of it. And it's going to be brutally difficult for them to ID cause of death because he made sure they didn't find her remains until it would be too late, and that was probably by design. I mean, her remains had to be largely skeletonized after six years.

That's vile, honestly. But they'll get him now. Poor, poor Tina having to deal with such a creature.

He first offered it to Tina's own cousin FFS. Absolutely sick behaviour!

 

[neteditor]

He first offered it to Tina's own cousin FFS. Absolutely sick behaviour!

Just clipping out these bits of trial reporting regarding the freezer for handy reference:

"A jury has seen text messages sent from Richard Satchwell’s phone including one in which Tina Satchwell's cousin is offered a chest freezer."

Court hears Richard Satchwell attempted to give away freezer | www.redfm.ie

A jury has seen text messages sent from Richard Satchwell’s phone including one in which Tina S...

www.redfm.ie

 

[neteditor]

Today's court reporting starting here on X:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1922956212049453543

 

[neteditor]

Really pushing the glass questions... but at this stage of the inquiry I don't think they can have known the origin of the glass (we don't yet know if they do know that now from the forensic pathology investigation.)

 

[neteditor]

Darnit

 

[neteditor]

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Tina was only 45, she looked fit and healthy IMO, she may have put up a better fight than RS thought she would. She may have been able to run to the bathroom/kitchen and was thrown against a shower/kitchen door then? Whatever happened she didn't roll around in glass while she was wielding a chisel pinning RS to the floor. JMO

 

[neteditor]

Tina was only 45, she looked fit and healthy IMO, she may have put up a better fight than RS thought she would. She may have been able to run to the bathroom/kitchen and was thrown against a shower/kitchen door then? Whatever happened she didn't roll around in glass while she was wielding a chisel pinning RS to the floor. JMO

Evidence is "likely they were transferred to remains shortly before they were buried."

I think if there was any chance that RS thought there might be evidence on her body of cuts etc from glass he'd have worked that into his fairytale, like smashing through the French doors when she came at him. He didn't, because he didn't know there was glass found with her. I think we can completely discount (at this stage, unless more evidence is forthcoming) that the glass was anything other than post mortem.

Now my question is, there wouldn't be glass like that in the bottom of a chest freezer, would there? Wondering if this is another hole in the fairytale.

 

[neteditor]

Poor wee Ruby

 

[su5ie]

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So it would seem glass transferred to body post mortem