Ireland - Tina Satchwell, 45, Youghal, Co. Cork, 20 March 2017 *arrest*

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I want to know more about this:

 

[Cartie]

I want to know more about this:

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The lamp that he keeps bringing up that she apparently threw at him?

 

[neteditor]

The lamp that he keeps bringing up that she apparently threw at him?

If I remember correctly, that was an earlier incident he described in his interview, the death involved her allegedly going at him with a chisel, knocking him to the floor, getting on top of him and him strangling her with a belt.

Of course, I don't believe any of it, except that he probably did strangle her with a belt.

 

[Cartie]

If I remember correctly, that was an earlier incident he described in his interview, the death involved her allegedly going at him with a chisel, knocking him to the floor, getting on top of him and him strangling her with a belt.

Of course, I don't believe any of it, except that he probably did strangle her with a belt.

Just because he said it was earlier, does not mean it was.
There is often some truth among lies and him mentioning it always stuck out to me.

 

[neteditor]

Just because he said it was earlier, does not mean it was.
There is often some truth among lies and him mentioning it always stuck out to me.

Always possible of course, but I think if the lamp was involved in the death scenario, he'd have said so. He's not the brightest chap. I'm interested in whether the embedded glass was pre or post-mortem, without knowing that we can't make any level of assumption.

 

[Cartie]

Always possible of course, but I think if the lamp was involved in the death scenario, he'd have said so. He's not the brightest chap. I'm interested in whether the embedded glass was pre or post-mortem, without knowing that we can't make any level of assumption.

I'm not suggesting it was used to kill her, maybe she did throw it and it angered him.
Now you've said that, made me think he could of used the cord.
Like you said he's not the brightest.

 

[neteditor]

I'm not suggesting it was used to kill her, maybe she did throw it and it angered him.
Now you've said that, made me think he could of used the cord.
Like you said he's not the brightest.

Oh I know, I realise that, and same here, I'm just hoping we hear more about what it was and why it was there. It's the only "interesting" thing that's peaking for me at this stage.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I'm not suggesting it was used to kill her, maybe she did throw it and it angered him.
Now you've said that, made me think he could of used the cord.
Like you said he's not the brightest.

It's possible Tina used a lamp in self defence, she might have grabbed at anything she could when she was being murdered. IMO RS could then have spun it as 'she threw it at me' for a little bit extra victim playing. JMO

 

[neteditor]

It's possible Tina used a lamp in self defence, she might have grabbed at anything she could when she was being murdered. IMO RS could then have spun it as 'she threw it at me' for a little bit extra victim playing. JMO

I think you have hit a point there. She was found in her nightwear, so if he attacked her in bed, the bedside lamp would possibly be an obvious handy defensive weapon. However, he had no apparent injuries 5 days later, and he did say the lamp was an earlier incident. This is why I really want them to tell us about the glass! It throws up questions.

Darnit, court has recessed for the day, just when things were getting interesting.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I think you have hit a point there. She was found in her nightwear, so if he attacked her in bed, the bedside lamp would possibly be an obvious handy defensive weapon. However, he had no apparent injuries 5 days later, and he did say the lamp was an earlier incident. This is why I really want them to tell us about the glass! It throws up questions.

Darnit, court has recessed for the day, just when things were getting interesting.

I always got a feeling with RS that he was 'pre explaining'. There's probably some truth to the chisel too but more likely Tina grabbed it and tried to use it in self defence while being murdered. JMO

I'm curious too, what type of glass? Coffee table, picture frame, wine bottle, vase?

 

[snooptroop88]

This poor woman. It sounds like he was a controlling psycho drawn to her because of her young age and the possibilities of manipulating her emotionally.

He was suspicious from the beginning. Way, way too much to say to the media. It's one thing to give potentially helpful information, it's another thing for someone who should be so overcome with grief to be actively courting media to the extent that he was. And agreed it doesn't look like he's all that bright, but you can't help but notice that he was spewing forth that information earlier on about the renovations of the home to make everything "perfect" for when Tina returned. So he may not be all that bright, but he was definitely trying to do the best with what he had (in a reprehensible way) nonetheless. Like a normal person in his position would be worried about renovations with his wife missing, and perhaps dead? I think he was trying to manipulate the media the same way he tried to manipulate the poor young woman who'd married him.

RIP Tina.

 

[neteditor]

This poor woman. It sounds like he was a controlling psycho drawn to her because of her young age and the possibilities of manipulating her emotionally.

He was suspicious from the beginning. Way, way too much to say to the media. It's one thing to give potentially helpful information, it's another thing for someone who should be so overcome with grief to be actively courting media to the extent that he was. And agreed it doesn't look like he's all that bright, but you can't help but notice that he was spewing forth that information earlier on about the renovations of the home to make everything "perfect" for when Tina returned. So he may not be all that bright, but he was definitely trying to do the best with what he had (in a reprehensible way) nonetheless. Like a normal person in his position would be worried about renovations with his wife missing, and perhaps dead? I think he was trying to manipulate the media the same way he tried to manipulate the poor young woman who'd married him.

RIP Tina.

I completely agree, he gave me John Tanner vibes from the start (Rachel McLean murder in Oxford in the early 90s - I was a a news reporter working that case at the time, we all knew he'd done it from his first press conference.)

Completely agree about the manipulation - he tried to manipulate the gardai, the public, the press - he was obviously highly accomplished at this and expected to succeed.

I find it staggering that right up to the end, when the guards were showing him photos of them tearing out his building works under the stairs, he appeared to continue to believe they wouldn't find anything.

The brass neck of him leaving that house every day knowing where she was and going round her family asking if they'd seen her.

Remember the search they did in Midleton woods, and he went up there acting like he was anxious they might find her there?

Obviously a master manipulator, you are spot on.

He kept saying he was working on the house so it was nice for her when she came back (or words to that effect.) Also I'm sure there were rumours at the time that neighbours heard building work at weird times of night that first week she was missing, but we've had no evidence in court to that effect yet, so perhaps they were just rumours.

I'm wondering if he's manipulative enough to take the stand. Many of these types are. I think the jury being shown all his press interviews is a counter to that possibility. They're being shown not to believe him.

 

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Face down... not a smidgeon of respect shown to her. I'm not sure why this details is triggering me, just feels like he dumped a bin bag.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Face down... not a smidgeon of respect shown to her. I'm not sure why this details is triggering me, just feels like he dumped a bin bag.

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He's shown no regard for Tina since she was first reported missing, trying to make her out to be some kind of abuser. Burying her face down was really one last act of utter contempt. Her poor family, having to hear how disrespectfully she was treated, even in death. JMO

 

[neteditor]

As any statement analysis would say, this tells me he's not being genuine:

 

[neteditor]

The only thing I believe from interview evidence, after she was located, is that he strangled her with the dressing gown belt. I don't believe anything else.

 

[neteditor]

No Richard, the worst thing of all is that your wife is dead. Very telling IMO.