Is a trafficking ring involved in this case?

[Kat010]

fyi--the linked article with video on the "Staton's Last Comment" thread specifically says that the sheriff's office is NOT scaling back the investigation...

Actually, Staton himself said that the investigation is being "downscaled" back on July 2 and I don't see much difference between "scaling back" in September (September!) and "downscaling" in July.

The following quote is straight from the transcript:


"On the other end of it, now that we are downscaling — because this has now turned into a criminal investigation. " Staton in July

IMHO, there's a lot of buzzwords, jargon, double-speak being tossed around, and then that's complicated by reporters deciding to step outside objective reporting and reframing what was said according to their opinions, instead of straight, hard, factual news reporting. MOO

 

[Lavender]

bbm

Sorry, but have to disagree with the bbm. A follow-up question along those lines *should* be the first instinct and first action by a good reporter. Again, I'm handing out massive "fail" grades for area media. Then again, I just got through watching a station's video that began with the reporter actually "explaining" the scaling down in such a way that he sounds like the sheriff's personal PR agent. Very sloppy, "follow the big dog in case he will leave us a little shred of a bone" type work.

Bad journalism, or no journalism, makes me cranky. Very cranky.

Yeah, but see how I was critical in the first sentence and then I tried to say something understanding in the second sentence to yin-out my yang and balance my karma? Yet little grasshopper agrees with you Too much PR and missed opportunities for questions.

 

[cluciano63]

If they had found on Terri's computer that involved kids, she would be arrested.

If they had uncovered a huge ring of sex perverts, they wouldn't be reducing the # of agencies and people involved.

They can use whatever words they like, it is clear they are going forward with less bodies working on this case, for whatever reason. Maybe it is because they have ruled out certain scenarios, maybe it is fiscal.

 

[BeanE]

Actually, Staton himself said that the investigation is being "downscaled" back on July 2 and I don't see much difference between "scaling back" in September (September!) and "downscaling" in July.

The following quote is straight from the transcript:


"On the other end of it, now that we are downscaling — because this has now turned into a criminal investigation. " Staton in July

IMHO, there's a lot of buzzwords, jargon, double-speak being tossed around, and then that's complicated by reporters deciding to step outside objective reporting and reframing what was said according to their opinions, instead of straight, hard, factual news reporting. MOO

Not to mention that Staton has his own way of butchering the English language, which makes it difficult to understand what he's really trying to say - which I think may be deliberate on his part.

 

[Mylou]

I have suspected for sometime now just from reading about attempted abductions, that people may be abducting to pay off debts. I suspected this because of the age of some of the attempted abductors and their descriptions, alot of them seemed to sound like strung out drug addicts. I was going to ask if that is possible and then realized of course anything is possible.

I wonder always about all missing children that are never found, surely they went somewhere.........and then all the children that are in such rings they come from somewhere???
With there being no evidence that Kyron is deceased, one has to believe he is alive somewhere, some kind of ring like this ? Maybe......God only knows. I can't even fathom what the police learn at times. I would think though , if there was something like this that they came upon, wouldn't there have been some kind of arrests by now ? Or perhaps they are looking for the big ones ?

 

[DeeMarie]

If they had found on Terri's computer that involved kids, she would be arrested.

If they had uncovered a huge ring of sex perverts, they wouldn't be reducing the # of agencies and people involved.

They can use whatever words they like, it is clear they are going forward with less bodies working on this case, for whatever reason. Maybe it is because they have ruled out certain scenarios, maybe it is fiscal.

It depends on who the perverts are - higher ups, officials - maybe this is why it is taking so long to get answers and action .

 

[froginTtown]

Child trafficking is an underestimated crime... A friend of mine had a niece that was abducted walking home from school with a friend.. They were missing for nearly a week before the police took it seriously... During that week, they where taken out of state for prostitution at a truck stop, but not together...
One of the girls ran for help, while at the truck stop.. The perp took off...
Obviously, they still didn't take it serious, because the Uncle got the call from family members of where the other girl was...(out-of-state-issue) The family called the police and told them they were at the perps. house.. The police took 1 1/2 hours to show up..!!
Within that time, the perps came out with crow bars and was beating the family, and threw the girl from the second story window of the house... she was beaten while waiting for the police..!!
This story has made many headlines and featured on many criminal shows...

It makes me sick..!! ,, that people agree that this happens, but will turn such a blind eye to it when it stares them in the face...!!

So sorry to vent, but now these two girls have the rest of their lives to deal with it..!!

My point.. The LE thought the easiest..they ran away... Kyron: (easiest) he was murdered... I think that LE is on the right track...it's much more!! and I pray they won't let up!!!

 

[miabellamoure]

It's times like this I believe in washboarding. She needs to tell the truth about what she did to Kyron!!!! No matter what it takes to get it out of her.

:waitasec:...I think you meant "waterboarding"...washboarding is something done to roads...lol:dance:

 

[KopDog]

About a month ago, I started a link and posted to an article about a 12 year old (I think.age was young) that sexually attacked in a park by an older gentleman - I googled mapped it - the park was something like 10 miles from Kyron's school. The link was pulled after only a couple comments because I was speculating and we are limited to discussing items that the mainstream media has published.

I am confused - how is this different - did this come up at the press conference today?

 

[miabellamoure]

I for one am sitting up on a "child trafficking ring-fence"...and would need to see what evidence so far that we know of that would even point in this direction...?

Then is DeeDee involved in this same agenda...because she was very likely there that day, too.

Somebody help me make sense of this scenario BASED on what we already know.

 

[nursebeeme]

With today's presser, the question has arisen as to whether LE is possibly looking at a trafficking ring or something of that nature.

This thread is for discussion of trafficking rings reported in the Portland area or any other thoughts we might have regarding this possibility.

imhoo.... I do not think a sex ring is involved in Kyron's case. Not at all.

 

[Jade2010]

I think it's a kidnapping ring. I think when TH got involved with that first landscaper that she got involved, indirectly, with some really really bad people.

ETA: I think this kidnapping ring might only have been involved in kidnapping mostly adults and mostly of illegal status and therefore it wouldn't be such an emergency to children or might not feel necessary to notify the public that children are in danger.

 

[froginTtown]

I got alot of mixed messages from the press conference....My link didn't work so I watched it on JVM, and she cut it off at the point when the reporters started asking questions... Not too happy about that...lol.

 

[froginTtown]

I for one am sitting up on a "child trafficking ring-fence"...and would need to see what evidence so far that we know of that would even point in this direction...?

Then is DeeDee involved in this same agenda...because she was very likely there that day, too.

Somebody help me make sense of this scenario BASED on what we already know.

I started to make the connection with Jason Wishert/wishart but when I went back to link it a day later,(asked by mods) he erased alot of things off of his website...Jason is DeDe's ex... he is a child advocate, and is linked with Pimpollo Child Outreach in Mexico... It WAS on his website, but is gone now...Just sayin"

 

[cypress]

I don't understand how Kyron's abduction could be tangled up in a child trafficking ring and yet be an isolated incident.

I don't understand how LE have so much information about so many different facets of this case and yet there have been no arrests, no named suspects, no named persons of interests, no noticeable progress in terms of finding Kyron, no indictments, etc.

I don't understand how LE claims to know so much while simultaneously knowing so little -- they know Terri's responsible, but they don't know exactly what happened to Kyron, can't be sure who took him (Terri, an accomplice, a stranger, etc.), they don't know where he is, and they don't know if he's alive or dead.

Yep, it's as clear as mud.

 

[Jack]

I don't understand how Kyron's abduction could be tangled up in a child trafficking ring and yet be an isolated incident.

I don't understand how LE have so much information about so many different facets of this case and yet there have been no arrests, no named suspects, no named persons of interests, no noticeable progress in terms of finding Kyron, no indictments, etc.

I don't understand how LE claims to know so much while simultaneously knowing so little -- they know Terri's responsible, but they don't know exactly what happened to Kyron, can't be sure who took him (Terri, an accomplice, a stranger, etc.), they don't know where he is, and they don't know if he's alive or dead.

Yep, it's as clear as mud.

They did say today that there were a lot of things they once suspected that they don't suspect anymore. So it is possible that they no longer believe it is isolated. Or maybe they do, since all eyes are on the look out they may think a ring of some sort wont act again for fear of being exposed.

They may not be suspecting their original suspect(s) either.

 

[froginTtown]

I think the 'isolated" incident is that they know Terri was last with him...

From that is anyones guess... LE is very tight lipped...

 

[wondering1]

I don't understand how Kyron's abduction could be tangled up in a child trafficking ring and yet be an isolated incident.I don't understand how LE have so much information about so many different facets of this case and yet there have been no arrests, no named suspects, no named persons of interests, no noticeable progress in terms of finding Kyron, no indictments, etc.

I don't understand how LE claims to know so much while simultaneously knowing so little -- they know Terri's responsible, but they don't know exactly what happened to Kyron, can't be sure who took him (Terri, an accomplice, a stranger, etc.), they don't know where he is, and they don't know if he's alive or dead.

Yep, it's as clear as mud.

bbm~

I think it was expressed very well up-thread. If you don't personally plan on selling your kid into sexual slavery, it would be isolated from your perspective. I'm sure LE didn't think that, when addressing Skyline parents and the Skyline community as a whole, they were talking to a bunch of parents who were planning to do that. So isolated. If they were addressing a bunch of human traffickers, well, that group would already know it wasn't an isolated incident -- as to them, anyway. jmoo

 

[cypress]

bbm~

I think it was expressed very well up-thread. If you don't personally plan on selling your kid into sexual slavery, it would be isolated from your perspective. I'm sure LE didn't think that, when addressing Skyline parents and the Skyline community as a whole, they were talking to a bunch of parents who were planning to do that. So isolated. If they were addressing a bunch of human traffickers, well, that group would already know it wasn't an isolated incident -- as to them, anyway. jmoo

IMHO, when LE initially referred to this being an isolated incident, they were of the mindset that Terri had abducted Kyron. If Kyron was sold into sexual slavery then the community in which he lives is actively participating -- from the person who sold him, to the person who accepted him, the person or persons abusing him, the person currently holding him. Sexual predators are predators. Multiple people willing to participate in the abduction, sexual torture, and concealment of Kyron is hardly isolated, and regardless of who facilitated the initial abduction, no child in that area is safe if there are those in the community willing to band together to perpetrate that kind of evil onto a defenseless child.

 

[lynmaree]

I still think there could be a connection between her online activities and Kyron's disappearance, whether or not she was directly involved or even knew of the person who abducted Kyron.

And now something just "clicked" for me and I understand why she would not be allowed access to a computer at her parents home....we know there is one there as her mom had posted from it in the past.