Is George lying?

[Tuffy]

I haven't read thru the other answers yet but I do not believe George is lying and neither do I believe he had anything to do with Caylee's death or hiding her body or molesting Casey.

He may not remember exactly what he did on that morning. Who of us remembers every detail of some morning 3 years ago or even a week ago if it seemed like a normal day to you. Get up, make coffee, talk to your grand child, make them some breakfast etc, watch tv and say goodbye to them as they leave. It was an ordinary day to George. He seemed to remember what Caylee was wearing and her backpack etc which is more that I would remember.

I think GA was a hapless, quiet man that was ruled by his wife and daughter. Those 2 stuck together and opposed him on things. I think George was suspicious of KC and her actions for years and would say things to Cindy and would get shot down. The 2 were always against him. In order to get along with Cindy he kept his mouth shut most of the time and did his own thing. Thats why he sounds a little strange here and there. Cindy and Casey ruled the roost there, not George. Casey actually ruled that house by her outbursts and everyone cowtowing to her all the time. I think it actually PO'd George off.

BBM: I think this is probably the closest description of that household at that time!

 

[pip]

He certainly had an opinion when he was interviewed and told LE in his opinion that the odor in the car was the smell of decomp. I wouldn't go QUITE so far as to diagnose "Stockholm Syndrome" because he didn't call police on the 16th.

Yes, I believe he ventured out of the 'controlled zone' a few times and spoke up, and I remember him asking LE to please not tell his wife or son that he was there or what he said. He also testified for the grand jury, no choice. I would have to bet it wasn't completely honest, but honest enough to get an indictment, (against his wishes) ..jmo. Cindy whipped him back into control pretty quickly though from there on.

 

[Tig]

Ask Cindy why. She runs the Anthony family show.

Lol! Ok.

 

[Sun]

I've always felt like Casey was a lot like George, but only in some ways. Lying, was one of those ways.

 

[Tipstaff]

This case is an emotional experience and watching the past 3 days with the jail house video's has been an out of body experience and stressful.

To the posters that have had issues in our lives may we never cross those roads again and for those that have not pray that you don't.

In the end we are all here for one reason and so glad you all provide your thoughts and we agree and we disagree but thanks for sharing!

 

[txanmom]

It is not right to sit here & gang up on Tuffy. They know them self better than anyone. When Berry Hall murdered my brother & his wife, I went to the DA and ask them PLEASE not to seek the Death penalty. I did NOT want Berry Hall's mother to go through what my mother went through. And NO i did NOT act like the Anthony's. So I can sit here & KNOW how I would react. How do we know that Tuffy HASN'T been through something like this? Most people choose NOT to disclose family horrors. Tuffy just MAY be one of those people.

I am so very sorry for you loss! I truly hope my above comment did not offend anyone here as it was never ever my intention. Those are just moo rattling around in my head. I truly do not know how i would act, so I can only guess at the ant's behavior at times.

God Bless You and your family and all the other Websleuth members who have suffered losses or trying times.

 

[RR0004]

George Anthony is not lying. This man is a victim. I see alot of opinion on this site about how strangers feel these parents SHOULD have acted. I wonder how the ordinary actions of these strangers would look if judged, disected & conjectured upon by a nation of followers ? Then remove the ordinary aspect and replace it with the unfathomable hell the anthony's were thrust into ?
Food for thought.

My feelings have been all over the place about this family. But, I do think there have been people who have used their own experience to try and understand what this family has gone through. Can we say we know EXACTLY how they feel? Of course not. They lost their granddaughter and they have my deepest sympathy for that. But, IMVHO, they consciously chose a path that greatly affected the course of the investigation. This wasn't about them...it was about Caylee. It still is.

 

[carole]

Yes, I have.

I'm sorry, I've judged you and that is wrong of me. I've done exactly the same thing I accused you of and I am really sorry.

I apologize and hope you will forgive me.

This is such a terrible thing that has happened. Little Caylee has pulled at our heartstrings and emotions and I think we are all raw from it.

 

[RR0004]

Thank you, Tulessa. I guess I really hold a grudge though. I think the entire Anthony family's behavior has been way over the line of acceptableness (lol, if that's a word.)

No, they have tried to blame other people for this crime, and hinder the investigation all along. They have smeared innocent people who merely wanted to help find Caylee, and even people who had nothing to do with this at all. (see the ZFG depositions.)

No, I don't think they've been honest, and have actually made getting justice for Caylee more difficult.

Jeez, Tuffy...it's spooky how much our posts are alike.

 

[Tulessa]

Thank you, Tulessa. I guess I really hold a grudge though. I think the entire Anthony family's behavior has been way over the line of acceptableness (lol, if that's a word.)

No, they have tried to blame other people for this crime, and hinder the investigation all along. They have smeared innocent people who merely wanted to help find Caylee, and even people who had nothing to do with this at all. (see the ZFG depositions.)

No, I don't think they've been honest, and have actually made getting justice for Caylee more difficult.

I totally agree .

 

[Tipstaff]

Group Hug!

 

[katydid23]

Yes, I believe he ventured out of the 'controlled zone' a few times and spoke up, and I remember him asking LE to please not tell his wife or son that he was there or what he said. He also testified for the grand jury, no choice. I would have to bet it wasn't completely honest, but honest enough to get an indictment, (against his wishes) ..jmo. Cindy whipped him back into control pretty quickly though from there on.

Yes, he did the right thing in those cases and now Baez is trying to use that against him. In his OS Baez tried to say that George snuck off and talked to authorities as a way of 'framing' Casey for the crimes. I wanted to throw my
shoe at the TV screen.

 

[Donjeta]

I totally believe him when he says we wouldn't be here if I had been there when Caylee died. I'm sure he'd have had more sense than put duct tape over a drowned child's mouth to make it look more like murder.

I am tending to disregard the abuse claims as well after finding an article about Casey's jailhouse letters in which she presents a different story. JB said she had George's penis in her mouth when she was thirteen but apparently she used to claim that at the age 12 to 15 she was being groped and stared by her brother and she has had vague dreams that her father might possibly have done the same (stared at her and groped her?) when she was younger, in elementary school.

Now I realize jailhouse letters aren't supposed to be truthful testimony but telling the story two different ways just doesn't sit right with me. So it's Casey 0 - George 1 until further evidence.

 

[Tuffy]

I'm sorry, I've judged you and that is wrong of me. I've done exactly the same thing I accused you of and I am really sorry.

I apologize and hope you will forgive me.

This is such a terrible thing that has happened. Little Caylee has pulled at our heartstrings and emotions and I think we are all raw from it.

Thank you, carole. I forgive, and I agree that this case has made many of us very emotional here.

I'll admit, I do have a hard time forgiving the Anthonys for what they've done. I wanted very much for the truth to be known about little Caylee, and feel that they've done so much to make sure that it doesn't come out.

I do feel that they have unfairly smeared many a good name along the way, too. I just can't imagine that I would ever do such a thing.

 

[pip]

Yes, he did the right thing in those cases and now Baez is trying to use that against him. In his OS Baez tried to say that George snuck off and talked to authorities as a way of 'framing' Casey for the crimes. I wanted to throw my
shoe at the TV screen.

Me too. This case is very ugly and has had a widespread path of destruction. So much dishonesty it's disgusting.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Yes, I believe he ventured out of the 'controlled zone' a few times and spoke up, and I remember him asking LE to please not tell his wife or son that he was there or what he said. He also testified for the grand jury, no choice. I would have to bet it wasn't completely honest, but honest enough to get an indictment, (against his wishes) ..jmo. Cindy whipped him back into control pretty quickly though from there on.

Judge Perry looked at the Grand Jury transcripts and said there was nothing the DT could use to call George a liar.

 

[Harmony 2]

Gentle reminder... please keep posts on topic and be mindful of no bashing...

 

[Tuffy]

Group Hug!

awwww... I love you guys!

 

[krkrjx]

I disagree. I think he's doing the best he can under the circumstances. Apparently the SA had no problem with the way he answered his questions either. "Eyes For Lies" also thinks he is being sincere and that says a lot IMO.

Watching this case unfold from our perspective--even though we ache for Caylee and want justice for her--is far different than being a grandparent of the victim and having people left and right referring to the "smell of decomp" in the car. And to add insult to injury, George is now being accused of participating in the cover-up of his granddaughter's death! If this were me, I would be a basket case, and would certainly have trouble spitting out answers fast enough to appease everyone.

I cannot even imagine how George has held it together as well as he has. His testimony looked and sounded very sincere to me and it was crystal clear that his heart was breaking all over again having to relive that day and talk about the "smell of decomp" knowing that is all that remains of his beloved granddaughter. George is no angel but I do not believe the sexual abuse allegations, and I do not believe he would ever harm Caylee or cover up her death under any circumstances.

I firmly believe George would be willing to die if it could bring Caylee back.

 

[pip]

Judge Perry looked at the Grand Jury transcripts and said there was nothing the DT could use to call George a liar.

I believe that, but I also believe telling the truth didn't come easy for him. He had CA to deal with. JMO, and we will never know exactly how it went down.