Is Oprah being unfair??

[michelle]

Oh I know michelle, the entire thing was funny. Everyone was supposed to be reading from a script and Kayne went wayyyyyyy off the script. check this link, it is kinda funny!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090300165.html

Did anyone else notice though how kanye seemed really nervous, like he knew he was going to run off at the mouth all along and was building himself up too it. And after he said that MM looked like he didnt really know if he should agree with him or run! Poor chris rock even looked dumbfounded.....

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Did anyone else notice though how kanye seemed really nervous, like he knew he was going to run off at the mouth all along and was building himself up too it. And after he said that MM looked like he didnt really know if he should agree with him or run! Poor chris rock even looked dumbfounded.....

Yeah I noticed that, almost looked a little 'strung-out' to me!

What ticked me off was they blocked part of what Kayne said out here and I had to go online to find out exactly what he said.

 

[michelle]

What ticked me off was they blocked part of what Kayne said out here and I had to go online to find out exactly what he said.

What part? I need to see it all....

 

[OneLostGrl]

Kanye West is a freak
IMO

 

[shopper]

I don't see what's so funny, I must have missed something.
Kayne is spot on, Bush doesn't give a rats.
You guys have token black people and that's it, racism is alive and well.

Yes, and you're obviously very capable of it yourself. You owe an apology to everyone on this thread that you accused of racism. Most of the comments were laughing at Mike Myer's obvious discomfort at the situation, not what Kanye said. (Which, btw, I happened to agree with.)

 

[narlacat]

ok, sorry everyone for misunderstanding.

 

[michelle]

I think Kanye is a simple man. JMO I do love Mm though. Every movie he is in is great!

 

[shopper]

ok, sorry everyone for misunderstanding.

"Sorry for misunderstanding" isn't apologizing for a blatant accusation of racism.

JMO

 

[narlacat]

Whatever Shopper
If saying sorry isn't good enough for you well......

 

[narlacat]

Ellen thanks, you have obviously read some of my posts before!

 

[narlacat]

Shopper
Thank you, let's move on
Maybe argue on another thread LOL, I'm so joking

 

[shopper]

Shopper
Thank you, let's move on
Maybe argue on another thread LOL, I'm so joking

I swear, I'm not looking to argue. I love it here and would never do anything to purposely offend anyone. Not that I'm perfect, but that's just not how I am.

I agree, we can get back to the topic at hand, which was what???? Oh yeah, Oprah and her being unfair (or not) to the rapper/hip-hop community.

But before I move on, I just want to say that years ago, I made an effort to not stereotype any race/culture, etc and now I just don't have to make an effort, it just comes natural to me to not make assumptions about someone based on their race. But it seems like white people aren't afforded that same courtesy, it's assumed that we're all racist and like it that way. (Not saying this towards you, just in general). That's what frustrates me. Just a small, insignificant example: just this week, I saw a cute t-shirt with those sassy sayings on the back ("it's all about me" "put on your big-girl panties and deal with it", etc) and really wanted one. But on the front it said something about "Dixie girls" and I decided not to buy it. Because I did not want to offend anyone because of the "dixie". And maybe no one would have even noticed it but I didn't feel comfortable wearing that when I know that there are a LOT of people who are offended by that.

So maybe it's a sore point with me and I genuinely apologize for getting defensive, but like I said, it's something that people in the south are accused of daily.

 

[mssheila]

What was once a very fun and interesting thread has just swooshed down the toilet. See you guys in a more kind area of the boards.

 

[ellen13]

I swear, I'm not looking to argue. I love it here and would never do anything to purposely offend anyone. Not that I'm perfect, but that's just not how I am.

I agree, we can get back to the topic at hand, which was what???? Oh yeah, Oprah and her being unfair (or not) to the rapper/hip-hop community.

But before I move on, I just want to say that years ago, I made an effort to not stereotype any race/culture, etc and now I just don't have to make an effort, it just comes natural to me to not make assumptions about someone based on their race. But it seems like white people aren't afforded that same courtesy, it's assumed that we're all racist and like it that way. (Not saying this towards you, just in general). That's what frustrates me. Just a small, insignificant example: just this week, I saw a cute t-shirt with those sassy sayings on the back ("it's all about me" "put on your big-girl panties and deal with it", etc) and really wanted one. But on the front it said something about "Dixie girls" and I decided not to buy it. Because I did not want to offend anyone because of the "dixie". And maybe no one would have even noticed it but I didn't feel comfortable wearing that when I know that there are a LOT of people who are offended by that.

So maybe it's a sore point with me and I genuinely apologize for getting defensive, but like I said, it's something that people in the south are accused of daily.

You wrote a very eloquent post Shopper! You took the high road. I apologize for getting defensive as well. I just know that Narla is a good person and didn't mean anything by her comment. When you've been following someone's posts for a long time and then you see a bump in the road for them like Narla, my natural instinct is to defend that person so that they aren't misunderstood. Had I known you better, I would do the same for you. I am a very loyal person. Now that this is all said and done, I hope to meet you on a thread at another juncture and have a nice conversation. I'm not a mean spirited person either. I would go out on a limb for those who have proven their worth on this board by demonstrating a good heart and good intentions. Sometimes our first impressions of people aren't the best, but I believe that the 2nd ones can be even better.
Sincerely,
Ellen

 

[narlacat]

I swear, I'm not looking to argue. I love it here and would never do anything to purposely offend anyone. Not that I'm perfect, but that's just not how I am.

I agree, we can get back to the topic at hand, which was what???? Oh yeah, Oprah and her being unfair (or not) to the rapper/hip-hop community.

But before I move on, I just want to say that years ago, I made an effort to not stereotype any race/culture, etc and now I just don't have to make an effort, it just comes natural to me to not make assumptions about someone based on their race. But it seems like white people aren't afforded that same courtesy, it's assumed that we're all racist and like it that way. (Not saying this towards you, just in general). That's what frustrates me. Just a small, insignificant example: just this week, I saw a cute t-shirt with those sassy sayings on the back ("it's all about me" "put on your big-girl panties and deal with it", etc) and really wanted one. But on the front it said something about "Dixie girls" and I decided not to buy it. Because I did not want to offend anyone because of the "dixie". And maybe no one would have even noticed it but I didn't feel comfortable wearing that when I know that there are a LOT of people who are offended by that.

So maybe it's a sore point with me and I genuinely apologize for getting defensive, but like I said, it's something that people in the south are accused of daily.

Shopper
Thanks for elaborating on that, I have no idea what it would have been like to grow up in the deep south and being accused of being racist.
I wouldn't be worried about offending anyone by wearing a Dixie Chicks t shirt, if you like them what does it matter what other people think...you can't help it if they are offended.

 

[shopper]

You wrote a very eloquent post Shopper! You took the high road. I apologize for getting defensive as well. I just know that Narla is a good person and didn't mean anything by her comment. When you've been following someone's posts for a long time and then you see a bump in the road for them like Narla, my natural instinct is to defend that person so that they aren't misunderstood. Had I known you better, I would do the same for you. I am a very loyal person. Now that this is all said and done, I hope to meet you on a thread at another juncture and have a nice conversation. I'm not a mean spirited person either. I would go out on a limb for those who have proven their worth on this board by demonstrating a good heart and good intentions. Sometimes our first impressions of people aren't the best, but I believe that the 2nd ones can be even better.
Sincerely,
Ellen

Thanks Ellen, that really means a lot. You sound like someone who anyone would be lucky to have in their corner.

I apologize to everyone for getting so far o/t and for anyone offended. :truce:

 

[shopper]

Shopper
Thanks for elaborating on that, I have no idea what it would have been like to grow up in the deep south and being accused of being racist.
I wouldn't be worried about offending anyone by wearing a Dixie Chicks t shirt, if you like them what does it matter what other people think...you can't help it if they are offended.

No, it wasn't a Dixie Chicks (the group) t-shirt, it was "Dixie Girls", which I think is a line of clothing that has confederate/dixie emblems, which I would never wear, and in fact, cringe when I see them. But these shirts were different, like hot pink, yellow, lime green with cute, sassy sayings on the back. They didn't look anything like the previously mentioned. That's what caught my eye. But when I saw "dixie girls" on the front, I decided that since it was offensive to some people, I could live without it.

But there are plenty of people who would've bought it anyway, and not cared who or if it offended. Again, not that I'm perfect but I really try to think about things like that.

 

[TisHerself]

Is that the first time you seen it. Its crazy uncomfortable isnt it!!!!

Yes that is the first time I saw it, and yes it is, It is funny because of MM's face. It has nothing to do with Racism, I don't even see why finding the video funny, racism would come into it. Kanye could have been anybody standing next to MM, he just seeemed out of his element.... The look on MM face was priceless, when Kanye said "Bush hates black people I just lost it". Sorry that does not make me racist, just means I have a sense of humor watching what could have been a Saturday Night Live skit.

 

[windovervocalcords]

That makes sense.

Considering that racism did play a role in Katrina. At the very least, black people feel that race and poverty were involved.

It is not surprising there is sensitivity on all sides about racism in relation to Katrina comments, jokes.

One of these days, the sensitivity may give way to comfort and understanding and we can all relax and equally enjoy antics of great comedy and spontaneous performances.

 

[michelle]

Yes that is the first time I saw it, and yes it is, It is funny because of MM's face. It has nothing to do with Racism, I don't even see why finding the video funny, racism would come into it. Kanye could have been anybody standing next to MM, he just seeemed out of his element.... The look on MM face was priceless, when Kanye said "Bush hates black people I just lost it". Sorry that does not make me racist, just means I have a sense of humor watching what could have been a Saturday Night Live skit.

It was like watching a skit, that is the first thing I thought....