Is the Prosecution brokering a deal with D. Casey?

[The World According]

I am thinking the recent motion it is not about Dominic revealing anything about Baez; because, of the wording saying something to the effect of delaying putting it in discovery. If it were a matter of impropriety with Baez, that would be handled entirely differently is my guess ( through the bar and the judge perhaps ). I am not a lawyer though, so this is just my guess.

After the mess that Kronk/Ms. Kerley has opened up.... I believe any information they receive is going to be looked into as if the person were getting an FBI clearance!!!! Once burned, twice shy. Remember how the revelations during his testimony turned the OJ trial into Mr. Furhman trial?

It could be that it is something they normally know they are well within the law to investigate before they hand it over, but in an abundance of caution, they are going to stand on their heads and get it officially approved by the judge so there are no appeal issues, ever. No one wants to try this case twice. It may be something jaw dropping, or it may be just perfunctory. I don't know what type of deal the state could give Dom or what leverage they wield.[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH857JuYN2g[/ame]

 

[3doglady]

Questions:

What recourse could the defense take if they found out that DC gave out confidential info? ( such as, DC found out where the remains were while working for JB and told CA in Nov., then tells the SA)

Could the defense do anything to impede LE's investigation since this info came from a confidential source?

I don't think JB did anything illegal but CA and DC are another story.

 

[logicalgirl]

I completely agree...my comment was in response to someone else's statement in a previous comment.

With that said, to be honest, at this point I am not so sure what, if anything, Baez would be considered "guilty" of. I am no longer convinced that Baez played a huge role in the speculated "search by DC".

My thinking is that the plan between DC and the Anthonys (IF one existed) involved Baez only through a passing comment from DC such as the following:

DC: "Hey Jose, we think we may have a viable lead on where Caylee's remains may be and are going to search..."

JB: "If you should find something, be sure to call ME before you call LE".

I am not so sure Baez played a role in working with DC and the Anthony's to try to recover Caylee's remains. As defense attorney for the defendant, wouldn't it be better for the case if the case went to trial WITHOUT a body having been discovered????

I'm with you on this but I just can not see Casey telling Cindy where Caylee's body was. I can see her finally admitting it to Baez - but Casey and Cindy have such an antagonistic relationship - this is what I struggle with and keep circling back to Baez. I don't think Casey was ready to give up her perceived power over her mother that time last year. But hey, I could be convinced otherwise with the right prompts.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

But why say "call me before you call LE" UNLESS you know there is a dead Caylee in the precise spot that is being looked at by DC? They all knew where that body was, via KC. IMHO

All you have to do is look at that video of GA and CA in November where CA was TOTALLY zonked. She (IMHO) had just found out where that body was via KC, JB, DC, or somebody, but she knew at that time.

 

[logicalgirl]

But why say "call me before you call LE" UNLESS you know there is a dead Caylee in the precise spot that is being looked at by DC? They all knew where that body was, via KC. IMHO

All you have to do is look at that video of GA and CA in November where CA was TOTALLY zonked. She (IMHO) had just found out where that body was via KC, JB, DC, or somebody, but she knew at that time.

Totally Obsessed - thank you for confirming that video was in November - somehow in my mind I was connecting it with the timing of this search, and asked a general question if anyone remembered the timing - a few pages back. But was unable to find it on my own.
They were no longer visiting Casey at this time were they? So, are you saying Casey dropped a couple of lines in a letter - hey mom, I killed her and you can find her body blah, blah, and Baez delivered this letter? If he read that he'd never allow anyone to see that. If she verbally admitted it to Baez, Baez could have visited the A's in person and told them - thus Cindy looking totally "zonked" as you say - or needing so much medication she appeared to be zonked. He would have said if you tell anyone, Casey will get the needle. Cindy would want Caylee back even if she was no longer alive. I'm not sure she wanted her back to protect Casey however.

 

[cyberborg]

But why say "call me before you call LE" UNLESS you know there is a dead Caylee in the precise spot that is being looked at by DC? They all knew where that body was, via KC. IMHO

All you have to do is look at that video of GA and CA in November where CA was TOTALLY zonked. She (IMHO) had just found out where that body was via KC, JB, DC, or somebody, but she knew at that time.

I agree that there was an alignment of stars at this time, e.g.,

• DC Searching for Remains on Suburban
• CA completely emotionally drained at presser
• MN resigns from representing the A's
• Caylee is Alive Campaign goes into high gear

CA got REALLY bad news in early Nov. and then put on a brave face and hyped up the Caylee is Alive campaign, followed by reporting of sightings and a trip to California.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

Totally Obsessed - thank you for confirming that video was in November - somehow in my mind I was connecting it with the timing of this search, and asked a general question if anyone remembered the timing - a few pages back. But was unable to find it on my own.
They were no longer visiting Casey at this time were they? So, are you saying Casey dropped a couple of lines in a letter - hey mom, I killed her and you can find her body blah, blah, and Baez delivered this letter? If he read that he'd never allow anyone to see that. If she verbally admitted it to Baez, Baez could have visited the A's in person and told them - thus Cindy looking totally "zonked" as you say - or needing so much medication she appeared to be zonked. He would have said if you tell anyone, Casey will get the needle. Cindy would want Caylee back even if she was no longer alive. I'm not sure she wanted her back to protect Casey however.

No - I don’t believe KC would ever admit to CA what she had done. My theory is that KC ‘fessed up to JB. I think JB knew as early as whenever he filed that motion with the court to have KC let out of jail to go with him on a “special field trip”....and sorry I don’t have that link or date of the motion. Sometime afterward, DC also knew the location of the remains per JB/KC. I think when DC searched he did, in fact, find certain items (the pink blanket as evidenced by the video) and probably other things as well. Enough to corroborate KC’s confession. I do not think he found the remains, unless he did so at a later time without JH filming him. Wouldn’t it be interesting to find out who that mystery DNA belonged to that was on the skull duct tape? Hmmm - possibly somebody sweating while looking through the woods for evidence? It was at this point that I think DC told CA what he had found.

 

[steadychick]

No - I don’t believe KC would ever admit to CA what she had done. My theory is that KC ‘fessed up to JB. I think JB knew as early as whenever he filed that motion with the court to have KC let out of jail to go with him on a “special field trip”....and sorry I don’t have that link or date of the motion. Sometime afterward, DC also knew the location of the remains per JB/KC. I think when DC searched he did, in fact, find certain items (the pink blanket as evidenced by the video) and probably other things as well. Enough to corroborate KC’s confession. I do not think he found the remains, unless he did so at a later time without JH filming him. Wouldn’t it be interesting to find out who that mystery DNA belonged to that was on the skull duct tape? Hmmm - possibly somebody sweating while looking through the woods for evidence? It was at this point that I think DC told CA what he had found.

Just speculation, but what if that latent print that may or may not exist on some piece of evidence belongs to DC?

 

[TallyHo]

Just speculation, but what if that latent print that may or may not exist on some piece of evidence belongs to DC?

That might not be out of the realm of possibility, since he was grabbing bags by his fingers to open them after he ripped them open with his pocketknife. I couldn't believe that when I saw it on tape - he was practically bagging to be the next one thrown under the bus!!

 

[logicalgirl]

Whoa! Good one SteadyChick! Now there's something to think about!

 

[The World According]

He would be under arrest, imo.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

He would be under arrest, imo.

Maybe not if they just got a match for that print. Hence, a full "coming clean" by DC.

 

[The World According]

I just thought of something. His moving could be as innocuous as he is now bankrupt and cannot pay his lease for his office.

 

[steadychick]

That might not be out of the realm of possibility, since he was grabbing bags by his fingers to open them after he ripped them open with his pocketknife. I couldn't believe that when I saw it on tape - he was practically bagging to be the next one thrown under the bus!!

I'm glad we are reviewing some of this older information. Causes one to look at things differently now than we did back then. Seeing his hands all over potential evidence got me thinking -- why, if he really planned on "saying a prayer and calling 911" (paraphrased) would he touch/move/destroy the evidence and risk being considered a suspect when LE arrive?. Come on, he's a PI, he knew better. Your average Joe off the street knows better. In addition, he had a tip that he considered viable and he did not notify LE. IMO his actions show that his true intent was to "go get her" and move or destroy the evidence. He had no intention of calling LE and the SA knows it. Again, my opinion.

 

[Tulessa]

He would be under arrest, imo.

OR, brokering a deal............:innocent:

 

[chefmom]

I'm glad we are reviewing some of this older information. Causes one to look at things differently now than we did back then. Seeing his hands all over potential evidence got me thinking -- why, if he really planned on "saying a prayer and calling 911" (paraphrased) would he touch/move/destroy the evidence and risk being considered a suspect when LE arrive?. Come on, he's a PI, he knew better. Your average Joe off the street knows better. In addition, he had a tip that he considered viable and he did not notify LE. IMO his actions show that his true intent was to "go get her" and move or destroy the evidence. He had no intention of calling LE and the SA knows it. Again, my opinion.

ITA! And, he supposedly said "We are going to go get her.", not "We are going to see if she is there.". Why say that if that isn't what your intent was? Moo.

 

[Eidetic]

ITA! And, he supposedly said "We are going to go get her.", not "We are going to see if she is there.". Why say that if that isn't what your intent was? Moo.

Maybe if he did find some bones, and some of the evidence he saw it really wasn't as easy as all that and it all became too overwhelming. He was in over his head, he would be there for days trying to clean out those woods because he wouldn't know evidence from not.

Did you see his face in the video when he came across that pink baby blanket? You are telling me, you find a pink baby blanket and you stop searching that immediate area? I think DC did find something out there.
When he went to the A home to report back, telling them how scattered her remains were, they lost it because he didn't "get her".

Hoover said Dom left the A house nearly in tears. Perhaps they outright told him they didn't believe him, and if he told anyone anything, they would deny it and see that he was the one held accountable so you better zip it and make himself scarce. Or maybe he was in there mourning their granddaughter with them.

The way he was slashing and opening those trash bags with bare hands at the vacant house, I could see a fingerprint at the crime scene, even if it turned up on a piece of evidence not connected to the case at all.
He might have even led them to what he had touched off camera when they asked him what all was out there and he listed items.
They could clearly see what he had touched in the footage.

If he didn't find anything out there, why then did he return a third time without Hoover. Why so many field trips for an alleged dead end tip.

 

[Eidetic]

Totally Obsessed - thank you for confirming that video was in November - somehow in my mind I was connecting it with the timing of this search, and asked a general question if anyone remembered the timing - a few pages back. But was unable to find it on my own.
They were no longer visiting Casey at this time were they? So, are you saying Casey dropped a couple of lines in a letter - hey mom, I killed her and you can find her body blah, blah, and Baez delivered this letter? If he read that he'd never allow anyone to see that. If she verbally admitted it to Baez, Baez could have visited the A's in person and told them - thus Cindy looking totally "zonked" as you say - or needing so much medication she appeared to be zonked. He would have said if you tell anyone, Casey will get the needle. Cindy would want Caylee back even if she was no longer alive. I'm not sure she wanted her back to protect Casey however.

Bolding by me.

I have a feeling Mr. Casey took the burden of that anger. Everyone involved gets their fair share, except Princess Casey... questioning, disagreeing with or even so much as glancing the wrong way of an A is strictly prohibited.

 

[LolaMoon08]

No - I don’t believe KC would ever admit to CA what she had done. My theory is that KC ‘fessed up to JB. I think JB knew as early as whenever he filed that motion with the court to have KC let out of jail to go with him on a “special field trip”....and sorry I don’t have that link or date of the motion. Sometime afterward, DC also knew the location of the remains per JB/KC. I think when DC searched he did, in fact, find certain items (the pink blanket as evidenced by the video) and probably other things as well. Enough to corroborate KC’s confession. I do not think he found the remains, unless he did so at a later time without JH filming him. Wouldn’t it be interesting to find out who that mystery DNA belonged to that was on the skull duct tape? Hmmm - possibly somebody sweating while looking through the woods for evidence? It was at this point that I think DC told CA what he had found.

If Cindy only found out after Dominic Casey searched (but before Dec. 11th) why did she lie about it to the SA in her deposition. She says she knew nothing about him going out there until after Dec. 11th. She was adament about it and even (I believe it was in the JM deposition) when asked about it accused anyone of saying otherwise of lying. Well...

You have detectives saying that when they went to Cindy's house after the remains were found that Cindy made a comment "I already sent someone out there and there was nothing there."

And you also have Lee telling the SA that his mother told him Dominic went out there and it was before December 11th.

Cindy knew Dominic went out there. Did she send him out there? If she didn't then why lie about it? What does she have to hide by saying that Dominic told her he searched there on a psychic's tip?

Cindy lied in a deposition... now, that same question is going to be asked during the trial and she is going to have to either tell the truth (we know it will only be a half-truth) or lie. If she lies, she will go to jail. The lie would be that she still didn't know that Dominic went out there until after the remains were found.

Why would detectives and her own son lie about something like that? I just wish that when they are on one of these talk shows that they would ask her...

"You said you didn't know Dominic went out into those woods off of Suburban Drive until after Caylee's remains were found, correct?

Cindy " That is correct."

"Then why did Lee, your own son, tell the SA that you knew Dominic went out there before December 11th. Why did detectives say that you made the comment "I've already sent someone out there and there was nothing there."

Cindy looks at Brad like she is going to kill him for allowing one of these stupid media people to ask her the tough questions.

What is she going to say "My son is a HUGE liar." As much as Lee has upset me and I do believe he has lied about things and I do believe that he has tampered with things... I would believe him over Cindy.

I've always wondered why... Out of all these psychic tips they got in... why did they only follow up with this one?

 

[SallyLu]

The way DC slashed at the bags bothers me - a lot. Is he slashing away because he knows there's something in one of those trash bags and he needs to get to it - and quick.

He's definitely not being careful as if he's searching and trying to preserve the scene is he?

DC went there with a purpose and I believe he was sent by CA. Moo