Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #10

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No.
Being pro Palestine does not mean pro Hamas.
And it does not mean anti-semitism.


Gazans, West Bankers, Israelis are all Palestines.
Because their home is in Palestine.

This is their land and all deserve to live in peace and prosperity.

All have the same rights.

JMO
BBM. Well said!

Hamas is Gaza's government, but it also doesn't mean there was a fair election or any election at all. It certainly doesn't mean everybody in Gaza supports the Hamas' extremist, antisemitism agenda.

JMO
 
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Translated from Hebrew by Google:

Photos from the ground activity of IDF forces in the Gaza Strip:

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Shifa hospital, now underground Hamas fortress, built by Israeli architects​

During its construction 4 decades ago, Hamas protected hospital as local security force; over time, lower floors became a terror complex for planning attacks and hiding from IDF bombardments, endangering civilians​


The Shifa hospital complex, a central medical hub located in the city's west, was designed by Israeli architects led by Gershon Zippor and the late Benjamin Idelson. The complex now houses more than just medical facilities. Below ground lies a clandestine bunker network that serves as a sanctuary for top Hamas officials. It also features entry points to a labyrinth of terror tunnels, dubbed the Gaza Metro, which spans for miles below the Palestinian enclave.

Intelligence, including detailed architectural simulations, confirms longstanding allegations dating back to the 2009 Operation Cast Lead. At that time, the Shin Bet initially reported that Hamas terrorists were taking advantage of the hospital's premises as a strategic base and refuge, relying on the IDF's reluctance to target a humanitarian facility. The claim was that Hamas had seized control of the hospital's basement, using it as their headquarters.
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More:Shifa hospital, now underground Hamas fortress, built by Israeli architects
 
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Why are they firing rockets at abandoned towns?

I'm thankful there aren't any people there but it's kind of a waste of their rockets, isn't it? o_O

6:15 am

Rocket alert sounds in evacuated Israeli town near Gaza

The first rocket alert alarm of the day sounds in Kissufim, near Gaza.

The community has long been evacuated amid the ongoing war and after border area towns were devastated during the Hamas onslaught on October 7.

There are no immediate reports of impacts or casualties.
 
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Why are they firing rockets at abandoned towns?

I'm thankful there aren't any people there but it's kind of a waste of their rockets, isn't it? o_O

6:15 am

Rocket alert sounds in evacuated Israeli town near Gaza

The first rocket alert alarm of the day sounds in Kissufim, near Gaza.

The community has long been evacuated amid the ongoing war and after border area towns were devastated during the Hamas onslaught on October 7.

There are no immediate reports of impacts or casualties.
Probably more home made Hamas bombs falling out of the sky at the wrong time.
 
  • #607
Why are they firing rockets at abandoned towns?

I'm thankful there aren't any people there but it's kind of a waste of their rockets, isn't it? o_O

6:15 am

Rocket alert sounds in evacuated Israeli town near Gaza

The first rocket alert alarm of the day sounds in Kissufim, near Gaza.

The community has long been evacuated amid the ongoing war and after border area towns were devastated during the Hamas onslaught on October 7.

There are no immediate reports of impacts or casualties.
Why would the IDF assume Hamas had abandoned the town?
 
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Kissufim is in Israel. It was one of the kibbutz's targeted in the massacre and was evacuated by the IDF. The rockets are being fired by Hamas.

If it was evacuated, then wouldn't Hamas assume it is safe to hide out there? The location is very near the border.
I've seen nothing to prove who is firing the rockets because there is propaganda from both sides.

JMO
 
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If it was evacuated, then wouldn't Hamas assume it is safe to hide out there? The location is very near the border.
I've seen nothing to prove who is firing the rockets because there is propaganda from both sides.

JMO
I don't know what you mean by Hamas hiding out there. ??? I'm pretty sure Hamas wouldn't go to Israel right now to hide. o_O

Let me try again...

A rocket alert (alarm) sounded in Kissufim (Israel). The alarms (in Israel) sound for INCOMING rockets, so obviously these are not going to be rockets fired by Israel.

Hamas' goal is to annihilate Jews...and not only are there not any Jews in Kissufim (Israel), there aren't any people at all. As stated in the linked article, the kibbutz (in Israel) has long been evacuated.

So, I just wondered why Hamas (in Gaza) would be firing at a town (in Israel) that has long been evacuated (by the IDF). Because unless these are misfires, it seems like a waste of their rockets and does nothing to further their goal (killing Jews).

But don't worry about it. I'm ready to move on from this, lol.
 
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35min ago

US asks for clarification of Netanyahu’s comments that Israel will have security control of Gaza after war

The United States has asked for clarification of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s comments that Israel will have security responsibility for the Gaza Strip for an indefinite period after the war against the Hamas terror group.

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Last night, Netanyahu indicated that Israel would oppose the return of the Palestinian Authority to Gaza following the war — reportedly a goal sought by Washington — lambasting it as an entity that educates children to want to eliminate Israel, supports terrorism and hasn’t condemned Hamas’s October 7 massacres, which sparked the ongoing war.

On Friday, Netanyahu said the IDF will remain in control of the Gaza Strip after the current war ends, and will not rely on international forces to oversee security along the border.

Last week, Netanyahu told ABC News that Israel will have “overall security responsibility” over the Gaza Strip “for an indefinite period” after the war against Hamas ends.
 
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IDF says a significant amount of troops continue to fight in Gaza City's al-Shati camp. It says that in one incident, Givati Brigade troops identified civilians in a building, and enabled them to evacuate. But during the evacuation, Hamas opened fire at the soldiers. The troops returned fire and tanks shelled the gunmen, killing them.In another incident, the IDF says the soldiers identified a group of Hamas operatives holed up in a building in al-Shati, and directed an aircraft to strike them. Meanwhile, a fighter jet struck a Hamas weapons depot in a building, after a missile was fired from it, the IDF says.Lastly, in an incident last night, Nahal Brigade troops operating near al-Shati identified four Hamas operatives near them, and directed a drone to strike them. The drone hit three of them, before chasing down the fourth and killing him as well.

 
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7 min ago

Babies moved within Al Shifa hospital overnight after oxygen supplies run out​

Babies at Al-Shifa hospital were moved to a different part of the complex overnight after the neonatal unit ran out of oxygen, a senior health official in Gaza tells CNN.

The babies were moved without incubators and carried by hand to the hospital’s operating theatres where oxygen supplies are still running, Dr. Munir Al Bursh, Director-General of the health ministry, told CNN from inside Al-Shifa.

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At a briefing Saturday evening, Daniel Hagari said hospital staff had requested assistance to move the babies out of Al Shifa altogether, to a safer hospital.

“We will provide the assistance needed,” Hagari added.

As of 9 a.m. Sunday (2 a.m. ET) it was unclear whether any such transfer was likely to take place.

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war, Gaza evacuations, hospital crisis (cnn.com)
 
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30min ago

Fierce battles in Gaza City as IDF troops close in on Shifa Hospital, where Hamas HQ is said to be

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Witnesses say that airstrikes continued in the area overnight.

Health officials say thousands of medics, patients and displaced people are trapped in the area surrounding Shifa Hospital, with no electricity and dwindling supplies.

The IDF has said it will help to evacuate babies from the hospital in the coming hours.

Israel has presented evidence in recent weeks that Hamas’s main command center is located underneath Shifa and accused the terror group of using the hospital and its occupants — with 1,500 beds and some 4,000 staff — as human shields for the elaborate bunkers and tunnels beneath it.

Additionally, Israel says Hamas has stockpiles of fuel and supplies that it is keeping from an increasingly desperate civilian population.
 
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9:49 am

Rocket sirens sound in northern community

Incoming rocket sirens sound in the northern community Gornot HaGalil, close to the border with Lebanon.

There are no immediate reports of injuries or damage.

It is the first time sirens have sounded in the north of the country in some 13 hours.

The alert comes amid repeated missile and rocket attacks by Lebanon’s Hezbollah terror group. Hezbollah has also carried out several drone attacks.

Gornot HaGalil (Israel) - Google Maps
 
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IDF says a significant amount of troops continue to fight in Gaza City's al-Shati camp. It says that in one incident, Givati Brigade troops identified civilians in a building, and enabled them to evacuate. But during the evacuation, Hamas opened fire at the soldiers. The troops returned fire and tanks shelled the gunmen, killing them.In another incident, the IDF says the soldiers identified a group of Hamas operatives holed up in a building in al-Shati, and directed an aircraft to strike them. Meanwhile, a fighter jet struck a Hamas weapons depot in a building, after a missile was fired from it, the IDF says.Lastly, in an incident last night, Nahal Brigade troops operating near al-Shati identified four Hamas operatives near them, and directed a drone to strike them. The drone hit three of them, before chasing down the fourth and killing him as well.

What is Hamas doing now - using civilians as bait, knowing that IDF will attempt to rescue the civilians, then firing on IDF during the rescue attempt?
 
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Only those on previous lists can use Rafah today​

Despite today's reopening of the Rafah border crossing, there's no new list of foreign nationals who are now eligible to make the crossing from the Gaza Strip into Egypt.
Instead, only those who have been on previously published lists will be allowed to leave Gaza.

When asked by the BBC if a new list would be published soon, Hisham Adwan, a spokesman for Gaza’s General Authority for Crossings, said: “Rafah crossing has been open from 1st Nov, to Egyptians and foreign nationals and a small number of critically injured Palestinians. We are constantly updating and publishing (the) list of evacuees.”

Around 175 Britons were included on previous lists last week. It’s thought there might be around 20 more who are still awaiting permission to leave.


BREAKING​

Evacuees reportedly pass through Rafah crossing​

A report by the Reuters news agency says a group of civilians have today evacuated Gaza, passing through the Rafah crossing into Egypt. Reuters cites unnamed Egyptian security sources.

That would mean the crossing would have successfully opened for the first time in three days. We don't have any details as to who these evacuees are yet.

 
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