Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

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Someone had fun making that graphic…is that from a Batman comic lol
The Daily Mail...Illustrations for people who don't like to read..LOL
 
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I see. You think Hamas are militants because media called them so. But do you think they are terrorists?
I am not signaling you out MB, you are the one to reply.
I'll answer; Hamas are Terrorists. Full stop.

Even legally recognized as such in countries where the state funded media refuses to call them terrorists and insist they are mere militants such as Canada (CBC) and the now-infamous for getting-it-wrong BBC.

Even recognized as a terrorist organization in the USofA.
 
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I'll answer; Hamas are Terrorists. Full stop.

Even legally recognized as such in countries where the state funded media refuses to call them terrorists and insist they are mere militants such as Canada (CBC) and the now-infamous for getting-it-wrong BBC.

Even recognized as a terrorist organization in the USofA.
Yes, I don't need a country or news agency to tell me if Hamas is a terrorists or not. There are political reasons why some countries do not state it outright. You can bet those do believe it and have the intelligence to prove it.
All moo.
 
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IDF expands its 'targeted operation' at #AlShifaHospital to the southern part of the complex'The tunnel shafts or the basement shafts inside the hospital have been blocked by concrete by Hamas. The army has brought in addition of tanks to guard the area and bulldozers to try and open those shafts' Our @P_Klochendler reports from the Israel-Gaza border



Explains the delay in allowing supplies in. Takes a few days to pour concrete.
 
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IDF expands its 'targeted operation' at #AlShifaHospital to the southern part of the complex'The tunnel shafts or the basement shafts inside the hospital have been blocked by concrete by Hamas. The army has brought in addition of tanks to guard the area and bulldozers to try and open those shafts' Our @P_Klochendler reports from the Israel-Gaza border



Explains the delay in allowing supplies in. Takes a few days to pour concrete.
A few sticks of dynamite might do the job.
 
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I personally feel that what happened on Oct 7th had something to do with Israel leaving Gaza in 2005. So, I went down a rabbit hole!

As most of us know, Gaza is a place in limbo. It's not a country. It's a "no man's land" within Israel.

In many respects it has a status similar to the old Indian Reservations. Native Americans were not guaranteed citizenship until 1924. Although Reservations were under the umbrella of the US, the US created Reservations, which were neither sovereign state or US territory. It was "no man's land". A Native American, born on a US Indian Reservation was considered "not born in the US". The same is for Palestinians born in Gaza.


But why did Israel leave Gaza? Why did it abandon security in an area that was a hotbed?

In 2000 there were Israeli settlements in Gaza.
Technically, they weren't supposed to be there.

Settlements begin to flourish around 1980. However, as time went on, security issues grew between the two populations. The Palestinian population was skyrocketing. And the Jewish population was kibbutz and rural. There were some terrorist attacks. The Sharon administration had decisions to make. "

They could offer Israeli citizenship to Gazans.
However, this diluted Jewish citizenship, so it was a no go because Jews in Israel would now be a minority.
They could consider a military occupation, but it violated a UN Security Resolution.

So, they thought about it and decided to "disengage". AKA...they kinda left things in limbo. So here we are.


Israel was seeing Gaza as a liability. Of course a two state solution was not an option either.
Israelis were forced to move to Israel and were forcefully evicted.

Hamas was elected in 2006.


There is a document called, "Unsettled". I would like to see it.


Here is a settlement. It sure looks different than today. Enjoy

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Israel warns people to evacuate southern Gaza areas​

Israeli forces dropped leaflets in the Khan Younis area of southern Gaza overnight, warning people in four towns to evacuate their homes and head to shelters, Reuters and the Times of Israel report.

The leaflets warned people to find safety in Bani Shuhaila, Khuzaa, Abassan and Qarara - towns that were home to more than 100,000 people, before the south was overwhelmed with displaced people.

"For your safety, you need to evacuate your places of residence immediately and head to known shelters. Anyone near terrorists or their facilities puts their life at risk, and every house used by terrorists will be targeted," the leaflets said, according to Reuters.

Weeks ago, similar leaflets were dropped over northern Gaza ahead of the ground offensive.

Also on Thursday morning, the Hamas-run Gaza interior ministry said Israeli helicopters have "fired at citizens' homes east of Khan Younis".

In October, the population of Khan Younis went from 400,000 residents to more than a million as hundreds of thousands left northern Gaza.

Thousands of displaced people are now living in makeshift camps, hospitals and school grounds in Khan Younis.

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Checkpoint attack follows surge in violence in the West Bank​


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Damage following an Israeli army operation in the West Bank city of Tulkarem on Wednesday

This morning's attack on a checkpoint in Jerusalem comes at a time of rising violence in the occupied West Bank - following the deadly Hamas assault on Israel on 7 October.

As we reported earlier, Israeli police say they killed three gunmen who opened fire on the checkpoint. The attackers were from Hebron, a city in the West Bank, police say.

The UN says 182 Palestinians, including 46 children, have been killed by Israeli forces in the UN since 7 October. Another eight, it says, have been killed by Israeli settlers.

Palestinian news agency Wafa says more than 2,700 people have been detained there by Israel since 7 October.

Following today's attack, Israel's national security minister was quoted in local media saying that the Palestinian Authority (PA) - which governs parts of the West Bank not under full Israeli control - has "similar views to Hamas". He said the PA should be "dealt with... exactly like we are dealing with Gaza".

 
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The Israeli air force dropped leaflets overnight on Thursday in eastern areas of Khan Younis in the south of the Gaza Strip, telling people to evacuate to shelters for their own safety – suggesting imminent military operations in the area.

Similar leaflets had been dropped about two weeks earlier. This time they were followed by heavy Israeli tank shelling on eastern neighbourhoods, Reuters reports.

Tens of thousands of people displaced from the north have sought refuge in Khan Younis, causing severe overcrowding amid shortages of food and water.

Naming the neighbourhoods of Khuzaa, Abassan, Bani Suhaila and al-Qarara, the leaflets said:

For your safety, you need to evacuate your places of residence immediately and head to known shelters.
Anyone near terrorists or their facilities puts their life at risk, and every house used by terrorists will be targeted.

 
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Israeli airstrike hits home of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, IDF says​

Israeli fighter jets struck the Gaza home of Ismail Haniyeh, the head of Hamas’s political bureau, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have said on Telegram.

Haniyeh, considered to be the militant group’s overall leader, has lived in Qatar for several years.

The IDF said his house was “used as terrorist infrastructure and often served as a meeting point for Hamas’s senior leaders”.

Israeli soldiers had also “located and destroyed a Hamas naval forces weapons cache, containing diving gear, explosive devices and weapons,” the IDF said.

They also “struck terrorists and located weapons including explosive belts, explosive barrels, RPGS, anti-tank missiles, comms equipment and intelligence documents”.

The Guardian was not able to verify these claims.



A bit more background on Ismail Haniyeh, whose house the Israeli military says it has struck in Gaza (although he is believed to be in Qatar).

Haniyeh was elected as Hamas’s leader in 2017 and has largely controlled his group’s political activities from outside Gaza.

He was the right-hand man to the Hamas founder, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, in Gaza before the cleric was assassinated in 2004.

Haniyeh became prime minister shortly after leading the group to victory in elections in Gaza in 2006 but was shunned by the international community as his group was deemed a terrorist organisation by the US and EU, among others.

Hamas then seized control of Gaza from the Fatah-dominated Palestinian Authority during a brief civil war in 2007.

 
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A man has crashed a car into a barricade near the entrance of the Israeli embassy in Tokyo on Thursday, injuring a police officer, Reuters reports.

Police arrested a 53-year-old man at the scene, local media reported.

An official at the Israeli embassy said the matter was under police investigation and declined further comment.

The incident happened at an area near the embassy that has been the site of a handful of pro-Palestinian demonstrations against Israel‘s bombardment of the Gaza Strip in recent weeks.

Police had stepped up security in the area, including erecting the temporary barricades, since the Israel-Hamas war began on 7 October, residents said.

A month ago, a staffer at the Israeli embassy in Beijing was assaulted on the street and hospitalised.

 
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The UN’s human rights chief said on Thursday that outbreaks of disease and hunger in Gaza seemed inevitable after weeks of Israeli assault on the densely populated city.

According to Reuters, at an informal briefing to states at the UN in Geneva after a visit to the Middle East, Volker Turk said:

Massive outbreaks of infectious disease, and hunger, seem inevitable.

 
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South Africa’s ruling African National Congress (ANC) party said on Thursday that it would support a parliamentary motion calling for the Israeli embassy in South Africa to be closed.

The opposition Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) will propose the motion later on Thursday, also calling for the suspension of all diplomatic relations with Israel in solidarity with the Palestinian people amid the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza, Reuters reports.

South Africa’s strong support for Palestinians dates back to the former president Nelson Mandela’s days, with the country likening their plight to its own before the end of apartheid in 1994. Israel rejects the comparison.

In a statement, the ANC said:

The African National Congress will agree to a parliamentary motion which calls upon the government to close the Israel embassy in South Africa and suspend all diplomatic relations with Israel until Israel agrees to a ceasefire.
The Israeli embassy did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the ANC’s remarks and the parliamentary debate.

Earlier this month South Africa recalled its diplomats from Israel.

 
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Lisa O'Carroll

The EU’s chief diplomat, Josep Borrell, and the European Commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, are to visit the Middle East in a multilayered diplomatic push to protect civilians, open fresh humanitarian corridors and keep priming the region for peace talks.

They will warn that settler violence in the West Bank is “totally unacceptable” and must end.

[…]

Sources say the leaders are working in concert to bring a joint message of “a vision beyond death and destruction” to help secure a roadmap for Gaza postwar.

Israel is not willing to talk about any “day after” plans and Arab countries are also reluctant but the EU believes it is important to show the Middle East that despite the horrors of the past weeks, there has to be a parallel endeavour to establish a post-conflict plan.

Both have already laid out similar roadmaps, which involve:

  • No place for Hamas.
  • No forced displacement of Gazans.
  • No long-term security presence of Israel in Gaza.
  • One Palestinian authority for the West Bank and Gaza.
  • An active role for Europe.
On Monday Borrell said the EU had “delegated” responsibility for peace in the Middle East to the US, and Europe needed to step up its leadership in peace talks in the region.

[…]

 
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Israel warns people to evacuate southern Gaza areas​

Israeli forces dropped leaflets in the Khan Younis area of southern Gaza overnight, warning people in four towns to evacuate their homes and head to shelters, Reuters and the Times of Israel report.

The leaflets warned people to find safety in Bani Shuhaila, Khuzaa, Abassan and Qarara - towns that were home to more than 100,000 people, before the south was overwhelmed with displaced people.

Seems that pretty soon these displaced people are going to run out of places to go.
 
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