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Of course, that is your choice. I choose to follow the evidence and documentation I have found.
IMO, politicians are not always the most reliable resources. YMMV ( your mileage may vary)
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Rocket fire from the Gaza Strip on Nirim and Ashkelon mark the first attacks in some 20 hours, since Friday's barrage on Tel Aviv. Rate of rocket fire has slowed significantly since the IDF's ground operation.
Footage coming out of Gaza of numerous casualties in an what is reported to be an Israeli airstrike on the Fakhoura school in the Jabaliya camp, which was being used as a shelter for displaced Palestinians. No immediate comment from the IDF on the reports.
Footage coming out of Gaza of numerous casualties in an what is reported to be an Israeli airstrike on the Fakhoura school in the Jabaliya camp, which was being used as a shelter for displaced Palestinians. No immediate comment from the IDF on the reports.
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Yesterday Israel's war cabinet said two fuel trucks would be allowed to enter Gaza each day, but UNRWA's statement says this is only half the amount needed for humanitarian operations.
Fuel is needed for ambulances, sewage pumps and hospitals as well as the telecommunications network.
UN says fuel has arrived in Gaza
The UN agency for Palestinian refugees says it has received a delivery of fuel, but much more is needed for it to continue its humanitarian operations.Yesterday Israel's war cabinet said two fuel trucks would be allowed to enter Gaza each day, but UNRWA's statement says this is only half the amount needed for humanitarian operations.
Fuel is needed for ambulances, sewage pumps and hospitals as well as the telecommunications network.
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I'm not surprised that the UN is already complaining that they have not received fuel and that they want more than what is being delivered. I think there is a genuine concern that the UN intends to provide Hamas with fuel.
I am surprised that media seems to be ridiculing IDF claims that there are tunnels and an Hamas operations centre beneath the hospital. In the last 2 pages, there are quotes from media that acknowledge that there are weapons in the hospital, but not that many weapons. They state that although there is a tunnel entrance, that doesn't mean it leads to Hamas underground structures.
Isn't one weapon in a hospital is one weapon too many? Why does the media attempt to normalize the idea that weapons in a hospital is insignificant? It seems like some media outlets are desperate to find fault with the IDF.
If the BBC was reporting on a room full of weapons in the basement of a London hospital, would it take the position that it's not that many weapons, or would the media outlet react normally and demand to know how that happened?
I am surprised that media seems to be ridiculing IDF claims that there are tunnels and an Hamas operations centre beneath the hospital. In the last 2 pages, there are quotes from media that acknowledge that there are weapons in the hospital, but not that many weapons. They state that although there is a tunnel entrance, that doesn't mean it leads to Hamas underground structures.
Isn't one weapon in a hospital is one weapon too many? Why does the media attempt to normalize the idea that weapons in a hospital is insignificant? It seems like some media outlets are desperate to find fault with the IDF.
If the BBC was reporting on a room full of weapons in the basement of a London hospital, would it take the position that it's not that many weapons, or would the media outlet react normally and demand to know how that happened?
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The US president’s top adviser on the Middle East said on Saturday that the release of hostages held by Hamas would lead to a surge in the delivery of humanitarian aid and significant pause in fighting in Gaza.
“The hostages are released, you will see a significant, significant change,” Brett McGurk said at the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain.
Reuters also reports that Bahrain’s crown prince, speaking at the summit on Friday, called on Hamas to release Israeli women and children held hostage and for Israel in exchange to release from its prisons Palestinian women and children who he said were non-combatants.
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The US president’s top adviser on the Middle East said on Saturday that the release of hostages held by Hamas would lead to a surge in the delivery of humanitarian aid and significant pause in fighting in Gaza.
“The hostages are released, you will see a significant, significant change,” Brett McGurk said at the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain.
Reuters also reports that Bahrain’s crown prince, speaking at the summit on Friday, called on Hamas to release Israeli women and children held hostage and for Israel in exchange to release from its prisons Palestinian women and children who he said were non-combatants.
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Every rocket fired reveals a location. IDF is narrowing down one at a time.
Moo..
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Ayman Safadi said on Saturday:
“We will never allow that to happen,” Safadi told at the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain.
The Jordanian foreign minister, Ayman Safadi, speaks at the forum in Bahrain. Photograph: Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters
The Israel-Hamas war has reawakened longstanding fears in Jordan, home to a large population of Palestinian refugees and their descendants. They fear that Israel could expel Palestinians en masse from the Israeli-occupied West Bank, where Israeli settler attacks on Palestinians have surged since 7 October attack.
Safadi said:
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Jordanian foreign minister casts doubt on wiping out Hamas
Jordan’s foreign minister has said he does not understand how Israel’s goal of obliterating the Palestinian militant group Hamas could be achieved, Reuters reports.Ayman Safadi said on Saturday:
He warned that Jordan would do “whatever it takes to stop” the displacement of Palestinians, amid heavy Israeli bombardment of the Hamas-run Gaza Strip in retaliation for Hamas attack on southern Israel on 7 October.
“We will never allow that to happen,” Safadi told at the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain.
The Jordanian foreign minister, Ayman Safadi, speaks at the forum in Bahrain. Photograph: Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters
The Israel-Hamas war has reawakened longstanding fears in Jordan, home to a large population of Palestinian refugees and their descendants. They fear that Israel could expel Palestinians en masse from the Israeli-occupied West Bank, where Israeli settler attacks on Palestinians have surged since 7 October attack.
Safadi said:
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Only the Palestinian Authority can run Gaza after the Israel-Hamas war is over, European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Saturday.
“Hamas cannot be in control of Gaza any longer,” Borrell told the Manama Dialogue, an annual conference on foreign and security policy in Bahrain.
“So who will be in control of Gaza? I think only one could do that – the Palestinian Authority,” he said.
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Only the Palestinian Authority can run Gaza after the Israel-Hamas war is over, European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Saturday.
“Hamas cannot be in control of Gaza any longer,” Borrell told the Manama Dialogue, an annual conference on foreign and security policy in Bahrain.
“So who will be in control of Gaza? I think only one could do that – the Palestinian Authority,” he said.
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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A top foreign policy adviser to the United Arab Emirates president, Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, said on Saturday that statements from Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, about a longer-term presence in Gaza were worrying.
“We hear now from the Israeli prime minister and indeed the Israeli president about the sort of longer term Israeli connection to Gaza. They are very worrying,” Anwar Gargash said at the IISS Manama Security summit in Bahrain.
“This indicates that perhaps the lesson that we as the majority of people in region are taking away from the Gaza crisis which is the need to go back to the two state solution, we need to go back to an Israeli and Palestinian state living side by side. That lesson has perhaps not been the same.”
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A top foreign policy adviser to the United Arab Emirates president, Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, said on Saturday that statements from Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, about a longer-term presence in Gaza were worrying.
“We hear now from the Israeli prime minister and indeed the Israeli president about the sort of longer term Israeli connection to Gaza. They are very worrying,” Anwar Gargash said at the IISS Manama Security summit in Bahrain.
“This indicates that perhaps the lesson that we as the majority of people in region are taking away from the Gaza crisis which is the need to go back to the two state solution, we need to go back to an Israeli and Palestinian state living side by side. That lesson has perhaps not been the same.”
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Some Gazan citizens did not leave these areas because they were told by Hamas terrorists that the IDF was laying in wait for them to emerge so they could shoot and kill them. They were afraid to leave. In other instances they were physically restrained from leaving.
At any rate, when IDF entered Shiva Hospital, they did so with medics and Arab speaking translators. Did they go in shooting everyone in sight? No they did not. Did they search and interrogate certain people they encountered? Absolutely. They were not about to have 100’s of people walking out with escaping terrorists in their midst. Aside from the patients and the Drs who were treating them, IDF needed to determine why these people had remained there after being warned of planned hostilities.
Once they felt they had a handle on things, they established a safe corridor for people to leave. Because of the fluctuating situation, IDF can’t guarantee the route would be safe from now on; they can’t commit to staying there indefinitely.
I believe the next bit was up to interpretation. Did “Leave Now” mean “you are ordered to leave whether you want to or not“ or did it mean “if you want to leave, you must do so within the next hour(s) so that we can guarantee you safe passage”.
IDF has made no bones about the fact that their mission is to eliminate Hamas. I do believe they are trying to minimize civilian casualties. However, as we know from studying warfare for hundreds of years, there will always be innocents killed and collateral damage when nations or factions choose war over peace..
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Six doctors will stay behind to take care of 120 patients who cannot move due to poor health conditions at Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital, the facility's Head of Plastic Surgery Ahmed El Mokhallalati said Saturday, after others left following a reported evacuation order.
“Most of the medical staff had left Al-Shifa hospital, as the Israeli occupation army ordered everyone to evacuate the hospital. Many patients cannot leave the hospital as they are in the ICU beds or the baby incubators,” he wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.
“We call on the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and World Health Organization (WHO) to take action to protect the medical staff and patients at Al-Shifa hospital,” Mokhallalati added.
The Israeli army earlier denied ordering the evacuation.
Hundreds of people left the hospital on foot, according to an AFP journalist at the scene.
Their destination was unclear but many - including sick and injured patients, medical professionals and previously-displaced civilians - appeared to be making their way towards the seafront, AFP reported. CNN has been unable to confirm the number of people who have left the facility.
Evacuating a hospital in an active war zone is “an extremely complex and logistically challenging operation” and the team on the ground lacks fuel, vehicles, incubators and other medical resources, ICRC spokesperson Ala’a Nayel told CNN Saturday.
“It is heartbreaking to see the most vulnerable bear the brunt of the conflict,” Nayel said.
Some background: It's not been confirmed what prompted the mass exodus Gaza's largest hospital on Saturday morning. Thousands of displaced civilians had been sheltering at the medical complex in increasingly dire conditions.
The hospital became a battleground on Wednesday when Israeli troops raided the facility in an operation against Hamas. Israel claims the group has been operating an underground command center below the complex - an allegation which both Hamas and hospital officials have denied. CNN has been unable to verify the claims of either Israel or Hamas.
Earlier Saturday, conflicting accounts of the evacuation request for Al-Shifa emerged. Several doctors there said that they'd been ordered to leave by the Israeli military, with one saying the hospital director had received a phone call specifying that fleeing individuals should wave white flags or handkerchiefs as they departed. However, the Israeli military has disputed issuing such an order.
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Six doctors will stay on at Al-Shifa hospital with 120 patients too vulnerable to evacuate
From CNN’s Jomana Karadsheh, Sarah Sirgany and Xiaofei XuSix doctors will stay behind to take care of 120 patients who cannot move due to poor health conditions at Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital, the facility's Head of Plastic Surgery Ahmed El Mokhallalati said Saturday, after others left following a reported evacuation order.
“Most of the medical staff had left Al-Shifa hospital, as the Israeli occupation army ordered everyone to evacuate the hospital. Many patients cannot leave the hospital as they are in the ICU beds or the baby incubators,” he wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter.
“We call on the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) and World Health Organization (WHO) to take action to protect the medical staff and patients at Al-Shifa hospital,” Mokhallalati added.
The Israeli army earlier denied ordering the evacuation.
Hundreds of people left the hospital on foot, according to an AFP journalist at the scene.
Their destination was unclear but many - including sick and injured patients, medical professionals and previously-displaced civilians - appeared to be making their way towards the seafront, AFP reported. CNN has been unable to confirm the number of people who have left the facility.
Evacuating a hospital in an active war zone is “an extremely complex and logistically challenging operation” and the team on the ground lacks fuel, vehicles, incubators and other medical resources, ICRC spokesperson Ala’a Nayel told CNN Saturday.
“It is heartbreaking to see the most vulnerable bear the brunt of the conflict,” Nayel said.
Some background: It's not been confirmed what prompted the mass exodus Gaza's largest hospital on Saturday morning. Thousands of displaced civilians had been sheltering at the medical complex in increasingly dire conditions.
The hospital became a battleground on Wednesday when Israeli troops raided the facility in an operation against Hamas. Israel claims the group has been operating an underground command center below the complex - an allegation which both Hamas and hospital officials have denied. CNN has been unable to verify the claims of either Israel or Hamas.
Earlier Saturday, conflicting accounts of the evacuation request for Al-Shifa emerged. Several doctors there said that they'd been ordered to leave by the Israeli military, with one saying the hospital director had received a phone call specifying that fleeing individuals should wave white flags or handkerchiefs as they departed. However, the Israeli military has disputed issuing such an order.
Live updates: Israel-Hamas war
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Geneva Abdul
Organisers of the pro-Palestine marches that have drawn hundreds of thousands of people to London’s streets have planned smaller action in villages, towns and cities rather than holding a national march in the capital today.
More than 100 pro-Palestine events demanding a ceasefire in Gaza are due to take place across the UK.
Tens of thousands of people are expected to attend vigils, protests, petitions, fundraisers and marches across London boroughs and cities including Birmingham, Cambridge, Liverpool and elsewhere on Saturday, according to organisers.
Ben Jamal, the director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, said the rallies were organised to show that “ordinary people” support a ceasefire.
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More than 100 pro-Palestine rallies to take place across UK, say organisers
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Geneva Abdul
Organisers of the pro-Palestine marches that have drawn hundreds of thousands of people to London’s streets have planned smaller action in villages, towns and cities rather than holding a national march in the capital today.
More than 100 pro-Palestine events demanding a ceasefire in Gaza are due to take place across the UK.
Tens of thousands of people are expected to attend vigils, protests, petitions, fundraisers and marches across London boroughs and cities including Birmingham, Cambridge, Liverpool and elsewhere on Saturday, according to organisers.
Ben Jamal, the director of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, said the rallies were organised to show that “ordinary people” support a ceasefire.
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More than 100 pro-Palestine rallies to take place across UK, say organisers
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Patrick Wintour
Jordan’s foreign minister has said Arab troops will not go to Gaza as he made a blistering criticism of Israel’s war on Hamas.
Ayman Safadi clashed with Joe Biden’s senior Middle East adviser on Saturday, saying a humanitarian pause should not be conditional on the release of hostages held by Hamas. The US envoy, Brett McGurk, said the onus was on Hamas to release hostages as a pathway to humanitarian aid increasing and a pause in the fighting.
The pair were addressing the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain, where Arab anger towards Israel’s refusal to negotiate a two-state solution was repeatedly voiced.
Speaker after speaker advised Israel that it would not find security through force.
At the same event, the EU foreign affairs chief, Josep Borrell, indicated he believed Israel could face charges at the international criminal court, adding: “One horror does not justify another.”
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Arab forces will not go to Gaza, says Jordanian minister in rebuke of Israel
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Patrick Wintour
Jordan’s foreign minister has said Arab troops will not go to Gaza as he made a blistering criticism of Israel’s war on Hamas.
Ayman Safadi clashed with Joe Biden’s senior Middle East adviser on Saturday, saying a humanitarian pause should not be conditional on the release of hostages held by Hamas. The US envoy, Brett McGurk, said the onus was on Hamas to release hostages as a pathway to humanitarian aid increasing and a pause in the fighting.
The pair were addressing the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain, where Arab anger towards Israel’s refusal to negotiate a two-state solution was repeatedly voiced.
Speaker after speaker advised Israel that it would not find security through force.
At the same event, the EU foreign affairs chief, Josep Borrell, indicated he believed Israel could face charges at the international criminal court, adding: “One horror does not justify another.”
Read more
Arab forces will not go to Gaza, says Jordanian minister in rebuke of Israel
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Turkey will make efforts to rebuild damaged infrastructure, hospitals and schools in Gaza if a ceasefire is achieved there, Turkish media on Saturday reported president Tayyip Erdogan as saying.
“If a ceasefire is reached, we will do whatever is necessary to compensate for the destruction caused by Israel,” Erdogan told reporters on his plane returning from a trip to Berlin, where he held talks with German leaders.
“We will make efforts to rebuild the damaged infrastructure in Gaza and rebuild the destroyed schools, hospitals, water and energy facilities,” he was cited as saying by broadcaster A Haber on its website.
Earlier this week Erdogan called on prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to announce whether Israel had nuclear weapons and he returned to the issue in his comments to reporters, calling for nuclear weapons inspections there.
“As Turkey, we are making this call. Israel’s nuclear weapons must be inspected beyond doubt before it is too late. We will follow up on this,” he said.
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Turkey will make efforts to rebuild damaged infrastructure, hospitals and schools in Gaza if a ceasefire is achieved there, Turkish media on Saturday reported president Tayyip Erdogan as saying.
“If a ceasefire is reached, we will do whatever is necessary to compensate for the destruction caused by Israel,” Erdogan told reporters on his plane returning from a trip to Berlin, where he held talks with German leaders.
“We will make efforts to rebuild the damaged infrastructure in Gaza and rebuild the destroyed schools, hospitals, water and energy facilities,” he was cited as saying by broadcaster A Haber on its website.
Earlier this week Erdogan called on prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu to announce whether Israel had nuclear weapons and he returned to the issue in his comments to reporters, calling for nuclear weapons inspections there.
“As Turkey, we are making this call. Israel’s nuclear weapons must be inspected beyond doubt before it is too late. We will follow up on this,” he said.
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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The newly appointed British foreign secretary, David Cameron, has spoken with the Israeli foreign minister, it has been confirmed.
Lord Cameron, who served as UK prime minister from 2010 to 2016, spoke to his counterpart, Eli Cohen, on Friday.
In a statement on X, formerly known as Twitter, he posted: “I spoke to Israeli Foreign Minister @EliCoh1 yesterday and shared my condolences for the Israeli civilians killed in Hamas’ brutal October 7th terror attack.
“We discussed the situation in Gaza and the need for humanitarian pauses. We are committed to preventing wider regional instability.”
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The newly appointed British foreign secretary, David Cameron, has spoken with the Israeli foreign minister, it has been confirmed.
Lord Cameron, who served as UK prime minister from 2010 to 2016, spoke to his counterpart, Eli Cohen, on Friday.
In a statement on X, formerly known as Twitter, he posted: “I spoke to Israeli Foreign Minister @EliCoh1 yesterday and shared my condolences for the Israeli civilians killed in Hamas’ brutal October 7th terror attack.
“We discussed the situation in Gaza and the need for humanitarian pauses. We are committed to preventing wider regional instability.”
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
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Curious how when terrorists militarize hospitals in other conflicts around the world, the “human rights” industry is somehow able to call them out for it. But when it’s Hamas—silence.
We hold you complicit. https://independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/yemen-war-houthi-rebels-hospitals-hodeidah-civilians-human-shields-amnesty-a8623981.html
We hold you complicit. https://independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/yemen-war-houthi-rebels-hospitals-hodeidah-civilians-human-shields-amnesty-a8623981.html
Under a communication blackout, Gaza’s 2.3 million people are cut off from each other and the world
BY WAFAA SHURAFA, JACK JEFFERY AND LEE KEATH
Updated 3:17 AM GMT, November 17, 2023
KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — Internet and telephone services collapsed across the Gaza Strip on Thursday for lack of fuel, the main Palestinian provider said, bringing a potentially long-term blackout of communications as Israel signaled its offensive against Hamas could next target the south, where most of the population has taken refuge.
Israeli troops for a second day searched Shifa Hospital in the north for traces of Hamas. They displayed what they said were a tunnel entrance and weapons found in a truck inside the compound. But the military has yet to release evidence of a central Hamas command center that Israel has said is concealed beneath the complex. Hamas and staff at the hospital, Gaza’s largest, deny the allegations.
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Under a communication blackout, Gaza’s 2.3 million people are cut off from each other and the world
Internet and telephone services have collapsed across the Gaza Strip for lack of fuel, the main Palestinian provider says, bringing a potentially long-term communications blackout.
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The US president’s top adviser on the Middle East said on Saturday that the release of hostages held by Hamas would lead to a surge in the delivery of humanitarian aid and significant pause in fighting in Gaza.
“The hostages are released, you will see a significant, significant change,” Brett McGurk said at the IISS Manama Dialogue security summit in Bahrain.
Reuters also reports that Bahrain’s crown prince, speaking at the summit on Friday, called on Hamas to release Israeli women and children held hostage and for Israel in exchange to release from its prisons Palestinian women and children who he said were non-combatants.
Joe Biden says Gaza and West Bank should be ‘reunited’ under Palestinian Authority; reiterates call for two-state solution – as it happened
In Washington Post on Saturday, Biden writes: ‘After this war is over, the voices of Palestinian people … must be at the center of post-crisis governance’
Complicit.
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