Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

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RSBM
BBM
I know you are stating your opinion but I have read several times since the beginning of this war that the numbers stated by the Palestinian sources are generally reliable. See for example https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/palestinians-are-denied-humanity-even-after-death/
I quote especially: Although Israel has barred foreign journalists and independent investigators from entering Gaza to make their own assessments, historical as well as contemporary evidence presents no major discrepancies between the figures reported by Gazan officials and numbers confirmed by the United Nations or Israel itself.
The article is much longer and worth a read.

No offence and everybody is entitled to their opinion but I don't see the point in making wild assumptions for one side or the other during a war and then spreading these assumptions around.

MOO JMO

BBM and my opinion too

I completely agree with you.
 
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Al-Shifa official speaks of 'major destruction' after Israeli raid​


Tom Bateman
Middle East correspondent

Dr Marwan Abu Saada, head of surgery at Al-Shifa hospital, has described “major destruction” in the radiology unit following today’s raid.

“The Israeli army invaded the radiology department in the subspeciality surgical building,” he said in messages sent to the BBC.

“They isolated male people in one room in tied hands and made major destruction of the CT [scanner], and also to the MRI machine and to multiple [ultrasound] and to furniture.

“Two people from the maintenance team have been arrested.”

 
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Tonight's headlines​

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It's approaching 10 past midnight in Israel and Gaza and 22:10 here in our London newsroom. For those of you just joining us, here's a look at today's key developments:
  • The Israeli military has carried out an operation at the Al-Shifa Hospital in the north of the Gaza Strip, where it accused Hamas of operating a command and control centre
  • A journalist inside the facility told the BBC the troops have now withdrawn, but this has not been independently verified
  • Earlier in the day, he said IDF soldiers had entered the main emergency department and were interrogating patients
  • The IDF has since released images and footage which it says shows Hamas weapons and equipment found inside Shifa
  • In the south, heavy rain is continuing to fall on Khan Younis - while Rafah has seen the first delivery of fuel with 25,000 litres allowed to cross into Gaza
  • Elsewhere, the UN Security Council has voted in favour of a resolution calling for "urgent and extended humanitarian pauses and corridors" throughout Gaza
  • And in the UK, the House of Commons has voted against calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, by 293 votes to 125. Labour Leader Sir Keir Starmer faced a major rebellion after he ordered his MPs to abstain
 
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The @UN Security Council’s resolution is disconnected from reality and is meaningless.
BBM, He nailed it !!!!

Hamas couldn't have done a better job in writing this so call resolution.
Moo
 
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France expresses 'serious concern' over Israel's al-Shifa operation​

France said on Wednesday it had “very serious concern” about Israel’s “targeted operation” inside the al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City, and that it was worried about the impact on the civilian Palestinian population.

“The Palestinian population should not be made to pay for Hamas’s crimes, even less so the vulnerable, injured or sick and the humanitarian workers who courageously continue their work in extremely dangerous conditions,” the French foreign ministry said in a statement, reported by AFP.

France “expresses its very serious concern about Israeli military operations in [the] al-Shifa hospital,” the ministry added.

It said the country recognised “the absolute necessity for Israel to comply with international humanitarian law, which particularly provides for the protection of hospital infrastructure”.

 
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Israeli forces withdraw from al-Shifa hospital​

Israeli forces have now withdrawn from the al-Shifa hospital in Gaza, according to a report from AFP that describes some of the scenes on the ground:

Israeli soldiers withdrew from Gaza’s main hospital Wednesday after raiding and combing through the facility. Both Israel and its top ally the US said the Palestinian militants have a command center below the complex, a charge denied by Hamas and directors at the hospital.
A journalist in contact with AFP, trapped inside al-Shifa, reported that Israeli soldiers, some wearing face masks, shot in the air and ordered young men to surrender when they burst into the hospital overnight.
About 1,000 male Palestinians, hands above their heads, were in the courtyard, some of them stripped naked by Israeli soldiers checking them for weapons or explosives, the journalist said.
By early evening Israeli troops had withdrawn from the facility, the journalist said, redeploying around the hospital.
Israel said it found “military and combat equipment” inside the compound. The Hamas-run health ministry denied this. ‘We don’t allow’ weapons in any hospital, ministry director Munir al-Bursh said in a statement.

 
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"Massachusetts town bows down to anti-Israel mob as it hoists Palestinian flag over public park after 'heated' debate."


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"Massachusetts town bows down to anti-Israel mob as it hoists Palestinian flag over public park after 'heated' debate."


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The Israeli flag was also on display at the park for a month. It's sad that there was even a debate over raising the Palestinian flag
 
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What's happening to premature babies in Al-Shifa hospital?​

Ethar Shalaby
BBC Arabic

"There are 36 surviving premature babies. There were 39, but we lost three,” Dr Marwan Abu Saada, the head of Al-Shifa’s general surgery department, tells me down a faint phone line.

Those who remain have no surviving parents or guardians, and in the chaos of war, their relatives cannot be found, he said.

Two of the babies were found alone in the aftermath of Israel Defense Force shelling, and brought to the hospital. Four others were born by Caesarean section after their mothers had died.

Due to lack of fuel, the babies have been moved from their incubators in the neo-natal unit to the cardiac surgery operating theatre, Abu Saada tells me.

There they lie, eight or 10 to a bed, on top of heated blankets and covered in foil to keep them warm.

Labels are attached to each baby, saying "the son of" or "the daughter of" alongside their mother's names - if its known.

With limited access to water, doctors are struggling to maintain sterile conditions, and Dr Abu Saada worries the babies could develop sepsis due unclean oxygen tubes.

“That's why we're calling for these babies to be evacuated,” he says.

He tells me that since the IDF stormed the complex, a connecting bridge between the general surgery and specialised surgery buildings have been hit – cutting off his contact with the neonatal unit.


 
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"Massachusetts town bows down to anti-Israel mob as it hoists Palestinian flag over public park after 'heated' debate'."


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It says the Israeli flag was also flown. As long as the US flag was still flown and higher on the pole (or equal height), I don't have a problem with it. Now if they had pulled down the US flag and replaced or damaged it...
 
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Israeli forces withdraw from al-Shifa hospital​

Israeli forces have now withdrawn from the al-Shifa hospital in Gaza, according to a report from AFP that describes some of the scenes on the ground:



Here's the probable reason why:

Hamas chief Sinwar refuses to advance hostage deal talks while IDF is in Shifa hospital, @ynetalerts
reports. Sounds like Hamas is desperate to stop or slow down the Shifa operation.
 
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What's happening to premature babies in Al-Shifa hospital?​

Ethar Shalaby
BBC Arabic

"There are 36 surviving premature babies. There were 39, but we lost three,” Dr Marwan Abu Saada, the head of Al-Shifa’s general surgery department, tells me down a faint phone line.

Those who remain have no surviving parents or guardians, and in the chaos of war, their relatives cannot be found, he said.

Two of the babies were found alone in the aftermath of Israel Defense Force shelling, and brought to the hospital. Four others were born by Caesarean section after their mothers had died.

Due to lack of fuel, the babies have been moved from their incubators in the neo-natal unit to the cardiac surgery operating theatre, Abu Saada tells me.

There they lie, eight or 10 to a bed, on top of heated blankets and covered in foil to keep them warm.

Labels are attached to each baby, saying "the son of" or "the daughter of" alongside their mother's names - if its known.

With limited access to water, doctors are struggling to maintain sterile conditions, and Dr Abu Saada worries the babies could develop sepsis due unclean oxygen tubes.

“That's why we're calling for these babies to be evacuated,” he says.

He tells me that since the IDF stormed the complex, a connecting bridge between the general surgery and specialised surgery buildings have been hit – cutting off his contact with the neonatal unit.

Aren't they evacuated already???
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