Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #11

[Cryptic]

Changes the situation and enables the situation.

I think that is an excellent summary. US aid keeps the status quo and allows the Israelis to avoid making some very hard decisions.

 

[JennieM]

“I’m an American citizen. And they shot me": 17-year-old American tells CNN what it's like to be stuck in Gaza​

From CNN's Mick Krever, Abeer Salman and Jomana Karadsheh

Farah Abuolba speaks to CNN on November 12. CNN

“I’m an American citizen. And they shot me.”

From a dark room in Gaza’s Al Quds Hospital, Farah Abuolba speaks matter of factly into the camera. For more than a week, the teenager has been languishing without hope that she, her mother, and her sister will ever escape the nightmare they have entered.

On November 3, as she and her family tried to reach the Rafah border crossing with Egypt, the bus she was traveling in along Gaza’s coastal road came under what she believes was Israeli attack, with a blast that severed half her left hand. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has denied that it struck that street on November 3.

“I felt all my blood, all my blood dripped all over me,” Abuolba recalled tearfully the day after the incident, as the sound of explosions ricocheted in the background. “How I felt when I saw my hand falling, or how I felt my skin just – and my bones breaking. And how I saw my wrist just turn blue. I knew that my hand was gone.”

That was her third attempt to evacuate from Gaza, where Israel has conducted thousands of airstrikes since October 7. But without being able to reach the Rafah crossing in southern Gaza, through which some foreign nationals have been permitted to exit into Egypt, Abuolba remains stuck in the battered Palestinian territory.

Approximately 400 American citizens plus their family members — about 1,000 people total — are stuck in Gaza and are seeking to leave, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said at a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on November 1.

The number has changed little since, according to the latest from the State Department.

Abuolba grew up in rural Pennsylvania, where she has lived with her family since the age of three. Israel’s siege of Gaza has been the unexpected coda to her first trip to see extended family in the enclave.

Speaking to CNN, she remembered the initial joy of the visit, relaxing on Gaza’s beaches with her cousins. Now all she wants to do is go home.

“I’m trying so hard to find a way home just so I can fix my hand. How am I – how am I going to go to school now, like it’s normal? Like my life is normal?” she asked CNN.

Read more about Abuolba's ordeal as she tries to evacuate Gaza.

November 15, 2023 Israel-Hamas war

Israeli forces raided Gaza's biggest hospital in what the military said was a "precise and targeted operation." Soldiers found "military equipment used by Hamas," the military said in a statement but offered no evidence yet of a vast tunnel network it claimed was used by Hamas.

edition.cnn.com

 

[JennieM]

7m ago

Hamas-run health ministry says Israel destroyed parts of hospital entrance with bulldozers​

The Hamas-run health ministry in the Gaza Strip has said that the Israeli army deployed bulldozers at the al-Shifa hospital, where Israel launched a controversial operation on Wednesday which it said targeted Hamas.

“Israeli bulldozers destroyed parts of the southern entrance” to the hospital, the ministry said in a brief statement in Arabic early on Thursday, according to Agence France-Presse.

The Israeli army told AFP that an operation was currently underway at the hospital complex.

“Tonight we conducted a targeted operation into Shifa hospital. We continue to move forward,” Major General Yaron Finkelman, head of Israeli military operations in the Gaza Strip, said on the army’s Telegram channel.

Israel-Hamas war: Israel launches strikes on Hezbollah-linked sites in Lebanon – as it happened

This blog has closed. You can read all our coverage of the Israel-Hamas war here and our latest full report here

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[dotr]

'Nov 15, 2023
Reports of a hostage deal continue as Israeli leaders plea for international support. Sara Netanyahu, wife of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, wrote a letter to first lady Jill Biden asking for support in the release of hostages. Retired Air Force Special Operations commander Maj. Glenn Ignazio joins “NewsNation Now” to discuss how a cease-fire in exchange for hostages could impact Israeli operations.'

'Nov 15, 2023
Police K9 expert Michael Gould joined “NewsNation Now” to explain to rigorous training IDF canines go through.'

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

What does it mean
"children held in Israeli prisons"?

Are CHILDREN in PRISONS???

Palestinian children abused in Israeli detention: NGO

Some of the abuses are sexual in nature, in addition to being beaten, handcuffed and blindfolded, a report says.

www.aljazeera.com

From the link:

Palestinian minors arrested by Israeli forces face immense emotional and physical abuse, according to the rights group Save the Children, which has revealed the tragedy minors go through as detainees in a new report.

In the report published on Monday, the group said some of the former child detainees it spoke to reported violence of a sexual nature, while many others were beaten, handcuffed and blindfolded in small cages in detention centres and upon being moved between centres.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

“I’m an American citizen. And they shot me": 17-year-old American tells CNN what it's like to be stuck in Gaza​

From CNN's Mick Krever, Abeer Salman and Jomana Karadsheh

Farah Abuolba speaks to CNN on November 12. CNN

“I’m an American citizen. And they shot me.”

From a dark room in Gaza’s Al Quds Hospital, Farah Abuolba speaks matter of factly into the camera. For more than a week, the teenager has been languishing without hope that she, her mother, and her sister will ever escape the nightmare they have entered.

On November 3, as she and her family tried to reach the Rafah border crossing with Egypt, the bus she was traveling in along Gaza’s coastal road came under what she believes was Israeli attack, with a blast that severed half her left hand. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has denied that it struck that street on November 3.



That was her third attempt to evacuate from Gaza, where Israel has conducted thousands of airstrikes since October 7. But without being able to reach the Rafah crossing in southern Gaza, through which some foreign nationals have been permitted to exit into Egypt, Abuolba remains stuck in the battered Palestinian territory.

Approximately 400 American citizens plus their family members — about 1,000 people total — are stuck in Gaza and are seeking to leave, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said at a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing on November 1.

The number has changed little since, according to the latest from the State Department.

Abuolba grew up in rural Pennsylvania, where she has lived with her family since the age of three. Israel’s siege of Gaza has been the unexpected coda to her first trip to see extended family in the enclave.

Speaking to CNN, she remembered the initial joy of the visit, relaxing on Gaza’s beaches with her cousins. Now all she wants to do is go home.

“I’m trying so hard to find a way home just so I can fix my hand. How am I – how am I going to go to school now, like it’s normal? Like my life is normal?” she asked CNN.

Read more about Abuolba's ordeal as she tries to evacuate Gaza.

November 15, 2023 Israel-Hamas war

Israeli forces raided Gaza's biggest hospital in what the military said was a "precise and targeted operation." Soldiers found "military equipment used by Hamas," the military said in a statement but offered no evidence yet of a vast tunnel network it claimed was used by Hamas.

edition.cnn.com

Possible confirmation bias. How would she know the source of the blast that injured her while traveling in a bus? JMO.

 

[justtrish]

Sooo, is he getting it from both sides, or what?

 

[Cryptic]

Good question. It's possible that they all quickly changed into civilian clothing and started running around the hospital pretending to be civilians seeking refuge - perhaps they are the human shields? Perhaps not.

Thinking they are a mishmash of everybody:

- People whose relatives are being treated in the hospital.
- People who felt it was too dangerous to either stay at home, or move to relatively safer areas. They then went to the hospital
- Some deserters and some "sort of, kind of" deserters from HAMAS or other groups that now want out- at least somewhat.
- Dedicated HAMAS fighters who got caught up by the Israeli advance, then changed clothes. etc etc.

 

[justtrish]

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US Navy spy plane has been up for a while now. Prior to that a US Air Force Global Hawk drone was flying for hours off the coast.

 

[JennieM]

1 min ago

Qatar condemns Israeli raid at Gaza’s Al-Shifa hospital​

From CNN's Hamdi Alkhshali

Qatar condemned the Israeli military for raiding Gaza's Al-Shifa Hospital — an action it described as “a war crime and a blatant violation of international laws.”

A statement released by the Qatari Foreign Ministry on Wednesday called for an international investigation into Israeli raids on medical facilities in the Gaza Strip.
The statement also reiterated the Qatari government’s support for what it said was the “just Palestinian cause” and calls for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state on the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as its capital.

[…]

Why Qatar matters: Qatar has been playing a major role in global diplomacy during the Israel-Hamas conflict because of its ties to both parties. The gas-rich monarchy has maintained a relationship with Hamas while being one of the US’ closest allies in the region. Meanwhile, it has also kept back-channel contacts with Israel.

Most recently, Qatar has been working to mediate deals — in coordination with Egypt and the United States — to free hostages taken by Hamas during its October 7 attacks in Israel, as well as evacuate foreign nationals from Gaza.

CNN's Nadeen Ebrahim contributed reporting to this post.

November 15, 2023 Israel-Hamas war

Israeli forces raided Gaza's biggest hospital in what the military said was a "precise and targeted operation." Soldiers found "military equipment used by Hamas," the military said in a statement but offered no evidence yet of a vast tunnel network it claimed was used by Hamas.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Brightchaser47]

That was just a figure of speech, justtrish. PM Trudeau is getting into trouble with both pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian crowds. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[margarita25]

dbm

 

[JennieM]

The Israeli military has set its sights on southern Gaza. Problems loom in next phase of war​

After raiding the Gaza Strip’s largest hospital, Israel appears close to completing its takeover of the besieged territory’s northern sector, which it has described as the headquarters of the ruling Hamas militant group.

But as the military sets its sights on southern Gaza in its campaign to stamp out Hamas, key challenges loom: International patience for a protracted invasion has begun to wear thin, and with nearly 2 million displaced Gaza civilians staying in overcrowded shelters in the south, a broad military offensive there could unleash a new humanitarian disaster during the cold, wet winter.

[…]

A push into southern Gaza poses several challenges for Israel.

With most of Gaza’s population now crammed into public shelters or private homes and Hamas embedded in residential neighborhoods, heavy street fighting in the south would likely result in high civilian casualties.

Israel says Hamas is responsible for these casualties and accuses it of using civilians as human shields. But the international community — even Israel’s closest ally, the United States — has expressed rising concerns about the civilian death toll. The U.S. has not told Israel to wrap up the war, but it has warned the Israelis that international criticism will grow the longer the war lasts.

[…]

The Israeli military has set its sights on southern Gaza. Problems loom in next phase of war

After raiding the Gaza Strip’s largest hospital, Israel appears close to completing its takeover of the besieged territory’s northern sector.

apnews.com

 

[Cryptic]

Best thing Hamas can do is to surrender.

I think a good many will.

But... I also think things are going to stay bad for a long time as dedicated HAMAS fighters blend in with civilians and create a tactic of:

By sniper, ambush or booby trap- one Israeli soldier a day, every day, week after week, month after month..... Sadly, I dont think a surrender by disenchanted HAMAS fighters will end the war.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Good question. It's possible that they all quickly changed into civilian clothing and started running around the hospital pretending to be civilians seeking refuge - perhaps they are the human shields? Perhaps not.

IDK, it just struck me as odd that they don't look sick, injured, or malnourished (or even dirty). jmo

 

[justtrish]

That was just a figure of speech, justtrish. PM Trudeau is getting into trouble with both pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian crowds. Sorry for the confusion.

I wasn't confused.. my inner 12 year old boy brain just sorta had a moment.. it happens.

 

[Chimera]

Palestinian children abused in Israeli detention: NGO

Some of the abuses are sexual in nature, in addition to being beaten, handcuffed and blindfolded, a report says.

www.aljazeera.com

From the link:

Palestinian minors arrested by Israeli forces face immense emotional and physical abuse, according to the rights group Save the Children, which has revealed the tragedy minors go through as detainees in a new report.

In the report published on Monday, the group said some of the former child detainees it spoke to reported violence of a sexual nature, while many others were beaten, handcuffed and blindfolded in small cages in detention centres and upon being moved between centres.

Somewhat distrusting of what Al Jazreera is purporting !
There is no proof that the IDF is arresting babies and small children.
Omo.

 

[Teche]

@Vern Thank you for sharing your military knowledge and experiences with us. You break down complex information into simple terms for people like me to understand. You're truly a gem.

 

[Dotta]

Dbm

 

[Cryptic]

IDK, it just struck me as odd that they don't look sick, injured, or malnourished (or even dirty). jmo

Gosh, I did not even notice it until you mentioned it. I agree, its strange.