Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #14

[ifindedout]

Not sure if this, or something like it, has been posted yet, but here it is anyway:

Israeli military analysts flagged Hamas plans to ‘start a war’ before terror attack

Three months before the Oct. 7 attack, a female analyst sent a warning with the subject line: “Death in the Kibbutz, at any cost.” Her superior dismissed it as an “imaginary scenario.”

www.nbcnews.com

Three months before the Oct. 7 terrorist attack, analysts in the Israeli military alerted their superiors to a serious threat from Hamas militants — a “plan designed to start a war.” But their concerns were dismissed by their superiors, according to an Israeli official familiar with the matter.

The incident is part of a growing body of evidence that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government missed — or ignored — key warnings about Hamas’ plans to attack the country.

Netanyahu, as well as Israeli military and intelligence officials, came under deeper scrutiny Thursday after The New York Times reported that Israeli authorities obtained Hamas’ plans for an Oct. 7-style assault a year before it occurred.

Israeli experts did not believe Hamas was capable of carrying out the attack and disregarded the step-by-step blueprint, according to the Times, which drew from documents, emails and interviews. More than 1,200 people died and over 200 were abducted in the attack, the worst terrorist strike in Israeli history.

NBC News has not independently confirmed the New York Times report or obtained a copy of the 40-page blueprint, which Israeli officials are said to have code-named “Jericho Wall.”

 

[tmhco]

Israel is expected to fight fair against a medieval death cult? You can make this stuff up.

 

[katydid23]

1m ago
The head of the UN children’s agency has warned of a “humanitarian catastrophe” if Israeli bombings in Gaza return to the intensity of before the Israel-Hamas truce.

Catherine Russell also urged “all parties to ensure that children are protected and assisted” and called for a “lasting humanitarian ceasefire”.

The executive director of Unicef said in a statement that the Gaza Strip “is once again the most dangerous place in the world to be a child” and that “more children will surely die” as a result of the resumption in fighting.

Russell’s comments on Friday came after the seven-day ceasefire between Israel and Hamas expired and Israel resumed military operations in the territory.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730737992011022770

Russell said:

Israeli airstrikes hit near Damascus, says Syria – as it happened

This blog is now closed

www.theguardian.com

Why did Hamas break the cease fire? Why did Hamas refuse to release the hostages they had promised?

Hamas surely knew the bombing would begin again, right? If they are so worried about their children why did they act so irresponsibly?

I love how everyone wants to hang terms like “humanitarian catastrophe” on Israel , when Hamas attacked first and wilfully broke the cease fire that they had urgently requested. Israel has been continuously bombed and rocketed since Oct 7th. No one else is concerned about that.

Talk about 'human catastrophe '---Hamas was holding kidnapped victims---men, women, children, infants and elderly---and is refusing to release the rest. Many of them witnessed their family members being brutally killed and now they remain hidden in tunnels and bombed out buildings.

Yet people continue to portray Israel as the devil , and wanting them to "ensure that children are protected and assisted." Has anyone been protecting Israel's children?

 

[JennieM]

Why did Hamas break the cease fire? Why did Hamas refuse to release the hostages they had promised?

Hamas surely knew the bombing would begin again, right? If they are so worried about their children why did they act so irresponsibly?

I love how everyone wants to hang terms like “humanitarian catastrophe” on Israel , when Hamas attacked first and wilfully broke the cease fire that they had urgently requested. Israel has been continuously bombed and rocketed since Oct 7th. No one else is concerned about that.

Talk about 'human catastrophe '---Hamas was holding kidnapped victims---men, women, children, infants and elderly---and is refusing to release the rest. Many of them witnessed their family members being brutally killed and now they remain hidden in tunnels and bombed out buildings.

Yet people continue to portray Israel as the devil , and wanting them to "ensure that children are protected and assisted." Has anyone been protecting Israel's children?

We should all be worried about these children.

Even if Hamas and Israel are not.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Not sure if this, or something like it, has been posted yet, but here it is anyway:

Three months before the Oct. 7 terrorist attack, analysts in the Israeli military alerted their superiors to a serious threat from Hamas militants — a “plan designed to start a war.” But their concerns were dismissed by their superiors, according to an Israeli official familiar with the matter.

The incident is part of a growing body of evidence that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government missed — or ignored — key warnings about Hamas’ plans to attack the country.

Netanyahu, as well as Israeli military and intelligence officials, came under deeper scrutiny Thursday after The New York Times reported that Israeli authorities obtained Hamas’ plans for an Oct. 7-style assault a year before it occurred.

Israeli experts did not believe Hamas was capable of carrying out the attack and disregarded the step-by-step blueprint, according to the Times, which drew from documents, emails and interviews. More than 1,200 people died and over 200 were abducted in the attack, the worst terrorist strike in Israeli history.

NBC News has not independently confirmed the New York Times report or obtained a copy of the 40-page blueprint, which Israeli officials are said to have code-named “Jericho Wall.”

I think it's safe to say Israel's paying for that, now (assuming it's true)...jmo

 

[Momoffourboys]

Report: Truce fell apart after Hamas refused to release more Israeli female hostages​

Israeli officials say terror group holding onto women abductees, sought to free hostages from other categories in violation of Qatar-brokered deal that held for 7 days​

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-truce-fell-apart-after-hamas-refused-to-release-more-israeli-female-hostages/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[JennieM]

The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) said earlier today that at least 57 journalists and media workers had died since the start of the war.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730658249228079167

Israeli airstrikes hit near Damascus, says Syria – as it happened

This blog is now closed

www.theguardian.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

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Israel has had the upper hand because for decades it has invested in infrastructure, education, agriculture, security, culture and much more. While the PLO, Fatah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas and the PA have invested and continue to invest in terror.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Report: Truce fell apart after Hamas refused to release more Israeli female hostages​

Israeli officials say terror group holding onto women abductees, sought to free hostages from other categories in violation of Qatar-brokered deal that held for 7 days​

https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-truce-fell-apart-after-hamas-refused-to-release-more-israeli-female-hostages/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I wonder if this was Sinwar's doing...

 

[Momoffourboys]

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And what has the PLO, Muslim Brotherhood, PIJ and Hamas done while Israel bombed them for decades? They were the good guys? Terrorizing everyone around them.

 

[JennieM]

Fighting resumes as Israel and Hamas trade blame

• Fighting has resumed in Gaza after a temporary ceasefire between Israel and Hamas that lasted seven days expired without a further extension
• Across Gaza heavy gunfire and many large airstrikes have been seen and heard, while rockets have also been fired at southern Israel from the Gaza Strip
• The Israeli military has blamed Hamas for violating the terms of the truce by failing to release all the female and child hostages being held in Gaza. It said rockets were fired towards Israel before the truce was due to end
• In turn, Hamas blamed Israel for breaking the ceasefire agreement, saying it had preventing fuel supplies from reaching north Gaza

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67584895/page/2

 

[Arkay]

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In actuality we have seen literally hundreds of videos and documented links here, of not only the IDF uncovering tunnels, but Hamas talking about using their tunnels and doctors in the hospital talking about tunnels, and Gazans talking about how there is a “metro” beneath the streets.

 

[PapillonVert]

Insight: Israel's most wanted: the three Hamas leaders in Gaza it aims to kill​

By Samia Nakhoul, James Mackenzie and Phil Stewart
December 1, 202312:02 PM CSTUpdated 11 hours ago

From the article:

“FAILED ASSASSINATIONS​

The three Hamas leaders have all escaped numerous Israeli operations to kill them. Deif in particular lives in the shadows after escaping seven assasination attempts before 2021, which cost him an eye and left him with a serious leg injury.

An Israeli air strike in 2014 killed his wife, his three-year-old daughter and seven-month-old son.

Speculation by Israeli and Palestinian sources is that the three men are hiding in the tunnels under the enclave but five sources close to their thinking say they could be anywhere within Gaza.

Sinwar, who unlike the elusive Deif and Issa has often appeared in the past at public rallies, is no longer using any electronic devices for fear the Israelis could track the signal, Hamas sources said.

Issa, known as the 'Shadow Man', is perhaps the least well known of the three but has been involved in many of Hamas' major decisions of recent years, and would replace either of the two other men if they are killed or captured, Hamas sources said.

All three men were born into refugee families that had fled or been expelled in 1948 from areas in the newly created Israeli state.

And all three men have spent years in Israeli prisons. Sinwar served 22 years after being jailed in 1988 for the abduction and killing of two Israeli soldiers and the murder of four Palestinian collaborators.

He was the most senior of 1,027 Palestinian prisoners that Israel freed in 2011 in exchange for one of its soldiers, Gilad Shalit, captured by Hamas in a cross-border raid five years earlier.

Like Deif, Issa's facial features were unknown to the public until 2011 when he appeared in a group photo taken during the Shalit prisoner's exchange, which he helped to organize.

Gerhard Conrad, a German Intelligence Agency mediator (BND) from 2009 to 2011, was among the few to have met Issa while negotiating Shalit's prisoner swap.

"He was very meticulous and careful analyst: that's my impression of him. He knew the files by heart," Conrad told Al Jazeera television.

Israel has killed Hamas' leaders in the past, including the group's founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and its former leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantisi, assassinated in a 2004 air strike. New commanders rose to fill their ranks.

"Israel has killed Sheikh Yassin, Rantissi and others but Hamas is not over," said Hamdan, the Lebanon-based member of the group's politburo. "Anything might happen in this battle."”

Insight: Israel's most wanted: the three Hamas leaders in Gaza it aims to kill

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant has a poster hanging on a wall of his office in Tel Aviv, in the wake of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas. It shows mugshots of hundreds of the Palestinian militant group's commanders arranged in a pyramid.

www.reuters.com

 

[margarita25]

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There’s only seven million videos, pictures, and links, many well documented before October 7, many by Hamas themselves.

 

[margarita25]

Boo both leading with Santos story

 

[PapillonVert]

Blinken pushes Arab states to discuss the future of Gaza​

By Humeyra Pamuk
December 1, 20231:15 PM CSTUpdated 10 hours ago

“DUBAI, Dec 1 (Reuters) - U.S. top diplomat Antony Blinken on Friday sought to begin discussions with Israel's Arab neighbors on the future of Gaza, even as Israel resumed its assault on the Palestinian enclave aimed at annihilating Hamas.

Discussions with Arab foreign ministers covered the current state of the Israeli-Hamas war and the work being done to deliver more humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip, Blinken told reporters before boarding a flight back to Washington.

He said they also talked about "what happens the day after in Gaza and how we can get on the path to a just, lasting and secure peace for Israelis and Palestinians, in fact for everyone in the region."

Arab states had previously pushed back on U.S. attempts to discuss a post-Hamas future for Gaza, arguing for an immediate ceasefire instead, but U.S. officials hoped this week's pause in fighting may have paved the way for talks, a senior State Department official said before the meeting.

That pause broke down on Friday, however, and Blinken did not provide details on how the discussion went.”

Blinken pushes Arab states to discuss the future of Gaza

U.S. top diplomat Antony Blinken on Friday sought to begin discussions with Israel's Arab neighbors on the future of Gaza, even as Israel resumed its assault on the Palestinian enclave aimed at annihilating Hamas.

www.reuters.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hamas burned child hostages with motorcycle exhaust pipes to ‘mark’ them, drugged them to keep them complacent: family​

…

“They told us stories about what they went through inside Gaza. The stories are horrible,” said Yaniv Yaakov, the uncle of 12-year-old Yagil and 16-year-old Or, two boys freed this week as part of Israel’s cease-fire deal with Hamas.

“Each child that was taken by Hamas was taken on a motorbike and they took every child, took his leg and put it on the exhaust of that motorbike, so they have a burn so they will be marked if they run, if they escape, so they can find them,” Yaakov said during an interview, according to the Times of Israel.
….

“They were treated so bad, but at least they are with us,” he said.

Hamas burned child hostages with motorcycle exhaust pipes to ‘mark’ them, drugged them to keep them complacent: family

“Each child that was taken by Hamas was taken on a motorbike and they took every child, took his leg and put it on the exhaust of that motorbike, so they have a burn so they will be marked if…

nypost.com

 

[Brightchaser47]

Insight: Israel's most wanted: the three Hamas leaders in Gaza it aims to kill​

By Samia Nakhoul, James Mackenzie and Phil Stewart
December 1, 202312:02 PM CSTUpdated 11 hours ago

From the article:

“FAILED ASSASSINATIONS​

The three Hamas leaders have all escaped numerous Israeli operations to kill them. Deif in particular lives in the shadows after escaping seven assasination attempts before 2021, which cost him an eye and left him with a serious leg injury.

An Israeli air strike in 2014 killed his wife, his three-year-old daughter and seven-month-old son.

Speculation by Israeli and Palestinian sources is that the three men are hiding in the tunnels under the enclave but five sources close to their thinking say they could be anywhere within Gaza.

Sinwar, who unlike the elusive Deif and Issa has often appeared in the past at public rallies, is no longer using any electronic devices for fear the Israelis could track the signal, Hamas sources said.

Issa, known as the 'Shadow Man', is perhaps the least well known of the three but has been involved in many of Hamas' major decisions of recent years, and would replace either of the two other men if they are killed or captured, Hamas sources said.

All three men were born into refugee families that had fled or been expelled in 1948 from areas in the newly created Israeli state.

And all three men have spent years in Israeli prisons. Sinwar served 22 years after being jailed in 1988 for the abduction and killing of two Israeli soldiers and the murder of four Palestinian collaborators.

He was the most senior of 1,027 Palestinian prisoners that Israel freed in 2011 in exchange for one of its soldiers, Gilad Shalit, captured by Hamas in a cross-border raid five years earlier.

Like Deif, Issa's facial features were unknown to the public until 2011 when he appeared in a group photo taken during the Shalit prisoner's exchange, which he helped to organize.

Gerhard Conrad, a German Intelligence Agency mediator (BND) from 2009 to 2011, was among the few to have met Issa while negotiating Shalit's prisoner swap.

"He was very meticulous and careful analyst: that's my impression of him. He knew the files by heart," Conrad told Al Jazeera television.

Israel has killed Hamas' leaders in the past, including the group's founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and its former leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantisi, assassinated in a 2004 air strike. New commanders rose to fill their ranks.

"Israel has killed Sheikh Yassin, Rantissi and others but Hamas is not over," said Hamdan, the Lebanon-based member of the group's politburo. "Anything might happen in this battle."”

Insight: Israel's most wanted: the three Hamas leaders in Gaza it aims to kill

Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant has a poster hanging on a wall of his office in Tel Aviv, in the wake of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas. It shows mugshots of hundreds of the Palestinian militant group's commanders arranged in a pyramid.

www.reuters.com

Interesting how this article subtly blames the formation of the Israeli state for these men becoming the homicidal maniacs they are. Wow. jmo

 

[PapillonVert]

Interesting how this article subtly blames the formation of the Israeli state for these men becoming the homicidal maniacs they are. Wow. jmo

I found that article interesting because I didn’t realize Israel had tried and failed to assassinate them in the past.

 

[Deary]

Honestly it seems like this war will never end