Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #2

[PrairieWind]

Ugh...
Will it be in support of civilian Palestinians in Gaza who need necessities or will it be in support of Hamas?
Since it's sponsored by a Hamas guy, I'm thinking the later. Ugh.......

Sadly, it appears to be a call for Jihad. Hamas's charter doesn't allow for peace.
What is needed is for Palestinians, and Palestinians of authority and power, to speak out against Hamas. But I have not seen that.

 

[Inthedetails]

You know,
I'm not a superstitious person
BUT....

Friday the 13th
Plus these demonstrations all over

I'm not superstitious either, but the Jewish sabbath day starts Friday at sunset. I don't think the day of the week was chosen randomly, but to be especially hurtful.

May peace prevail.

jmo

 

[Herat]

From watching the Gaza life stream it seems as though HAMAS missile launching has diminished over the last 24 hours?

Is this being verified?

Could they be saving them all for a possible invasion?

 

[katydid23]

Sadly, it appears to be a call for Jihad. Hamas's charter doesn't allow for peace.
What is needed is for Palestinians, and Palestinians of authority and power, to speak out against Hamas. But I have not seen that.

I'd imagine that anyone that publicly did so would meet a sudden cruel fate.

 

[fred&edna]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1712507691849928924

Beyond evil stupidity.

 

[PrairieWind]

I'd imagine that anyone that publicly did so would meet a sudden cruel fate.

Yes, the Hamas charter does not allow anyone to speak against it.

 

[Herat]

Sadly, it appears to be a call for Jihad. Hamas's charter doesn't allow for peace.
What is needed is for Palestinians, and Palestinians of authority and power, to speak out against Hamas. But I have not seen that.

It does seem as though no one in Gaza is able to make negative comments about HAMAS. Not the people dying from bombings, not the NGO's who have worked there for years, not the Press. Everyone is afraid of retaliation from the terrorists.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Plus the neighboring countries don't want them. Most already have refugee "camps" from previous conflicts plus they've been known to try and overthrow the governments of the countries that offer them refuge. So even if they could leave, they really don't have anywhere to go.

Remember Black September?

Here's a refresher

Black September - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JennieM]

Clashes in Paris after France bans pro-Palestinian rallies​

EPA

Staying in France - police in Paris have clashed with attendees of a pro-Palestinian rally.

France announced a ban on such demonstrations earlier, claiming they were "likely to generate disturbances to public order". Interior Minister Gérald Darmanin has threatened to deport foreign nationals who break the rules.

France has a Jewish community of about 500,000 people, and there are around 5 million Muslims in the country.

Darmanin told French radio that 100 antisemitic acts had been recorded since the Hamas attack on southern Israel - most involving graffiti showing "swastikas, 'death to Jews,' and calls to intifadas against Israel".

In a separate move, Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz declared "zero tolerance" for antisemitism.

He told parliament a pro-Palestinian group that had celebrated the murders of Israeli civilians on Saturday would be banned.

Berlin police have also banned planned pro-Palestinian demonstrations, citing the risk of antisemitic statements and glorification of violence.

EPA
The French government said there was a risk to public order

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970

 

[JennieM]

34m ago

Number of US citizens killed in Israel rises to 27​

The death toll of American citizens in Israel now stands at 27, the White House said on Thursday.

The number of Americans unaccounted for is 14, John Kirby, spokesperson for the national security council, said at a White House briefing.

Earlier today, the US secretary of state Antony Blinken said at least 25 Americans were confirmed killed.

Palestinian death toll passes 1,500 – as it happened

UN spokesperson says such a movement would have ‘devastating humanitarian consequences’ as Israel prepares for a ground offensive; Palestinian death toll rises to 1,537, according to Gaza’s health ministry

www.theguardian.com

 

[katydid23]

Hamas leader: 1,200 members of al-Qassam Brigades entered Israel​

The Hamas leader repeated claims that the terrorist movement did not target civilians in Israel.​

Hamas leader: 1,200 members of al-Qassam Brigades entered Israel | The Jerusalem Post

The Hamas leader repeated claims that the terrorist movement did not target civilians in Israel.

www.jpost.com

Oh, Hamas didn't target civilians?

What about the 300 dancing young people at the music festival, who were killed and/or kidnapped, without warning?

Did they think those young people, smiling and dancing to the music, were soldiers?

 

[JennieM]

1m ago

Palestinian death toll rises to more than 1,500 in Gaza​

The number of Palestinians killed has risen to 1,537, according to Gaza’s health ministry. That includes 500 children and 276 women, it said.

A further 6,612 were wounded in Israeli airstrikes on the Palestinian enclave, the ministry said.

The latest count is up from 1,417 Palestinians and 6,238 wounded earlier today.

Palestinian death toll passes 1,500 – as it happened

UN spokesperson says such a movement would have ‘devastating humanitarian consequences’ as Israel prepares for a ground offensive; Palestinian death toll rises to 1,537, according to Gaza’s health ministry

www.theguardian.com

 

[JennieM]

Macron: We are doing everything we can to bring back French citizens​

French president Emmanuel Macron says he is doing everything he can to bring back 17 French citizens who have been missing since the Hamas attacks on southern Israel last Saturday.

Another 13 French citizens were killed in the attack.

Macron accused Hamas of "blind murderous hatred" towards Israel, and said Israel had a right to defend itself.

Speaking on French national television, he said Hamas was a terrorist organisation which wanted the death of Israel's people.

He added that security in the region must include security guarantees for Israel and a state for Palestinians.

Earlier on Thursday, French anti-terror prosecutors said they were opening a terrorism probe into the attack by Hamas.

The probe is into murder, attempted murder and kidnapping, including of minors, by a "terrorist organisation", the prosecutors said in a statement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67073970

 

[Gypsy Road]

Sounds like a good day to stay home.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[OtisC]

While I would agree, the only way that works is when both sides actually want the same thing.

While land is a piece of the dispute, the bigger picture is that Hamas and allies want the Jews dead while the Jews want to live.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

 

[katydid23]

Most new homes have one room that is a safe/reinforced room.
Here is more:

Merkhav Mugan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I read some articles about families hiding in their safe rooms who were still kidnapped. I think the savages just set the entire homes on fire, forcing the families to run out or die in the fire. Some chose to die in the fire...

 

[JennieM]

I'd imagine that anyone that publicly did so would meet a sudden cruel fate.

You are so correct Katy. Thank you for saying it.

 

[Ontario Mom]

While land is a piece of the dispute, the bigger picture is that Hamas and allies want the Jews dead while the Jews want to live.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

That's exactly it. You can't reason with a rabid dog.

 

[Brightchaser47]

While land is a piece of the dispute, the bigger picture is that Hamas and allies want the Jews dead while the Jews want to live.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

There is no "live and let live" for some people. Groups like Hamas are merely pawns in the hands of a sinister, unseen force, bent on destruction...

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

While land is a piece of the dispute, the bigger picture is that Hamas and allies want the Jews dead while the Jews want to live.

Just my thoughts.

Otis

There are other groups that don’t want Israel to exist. Now is not the time for Israel to turn the other cheek. Their enemies are watching. imo