Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #3

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I think we've made a lot of progress in recent years in avoiding killing of innocent civilians. We spend a lot of money on defense, we can do it! I have faith that Americans can update our approach and mentality and teach other nations to do the same. Many already do understand it.
The development, by several countries, and the use of technology to isolate targets and minimize collateral damage and casualties is widely used by the U.S. and our allies and has been for years. Our level of consciousness is not shared by all nations or terrorists. They aren't interested and would be insulted by the suggestion of Americans teaching them to update their approach and mentality.
 
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This reminds me of Todd Beamer on Flight 93 on 9/11, “Let’s Roll”.

This young man was bartending at the music festival. He called his dad to say he was going to try to fight off the militants. Three hours later his family received a call that he was killed. His family learns his final moments were filled with saving lives.
 
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Real quick- a HUGE thanks to all of you who are posting updates and videos here. I appreciate y’all doing all the legwork so that I and others are able to scroll and read in one place!
 
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WHO sends planeload of supplies for Gaza to Egypt

Smoke plumes rising above buildings during an Israeli strike on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip on October 14, 2023. (Said Khatib/AFP)
Smoke plumes rising above buildings during an Israeli strike on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip on October 14, 2023. (Said Khatib/AFP)

A planeload of World Health Organization supplies lands at Egypt’s el-Arish airport and is destined for Gaza when humanitarian access across the border is possible, the UN says.

The cache includes enough basic essentials for 300,000 people and enough trauma medicines and materials for 1,200 wounded, the UN says in a release. It calls for opening the Rafah border crossing immediately to humanitarian deliveries.

“The critically injured, the sick and the vulnerable cannot wait,” the world body says.
 
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Maybe I'm' suppose to know this already but... What is Axios news? Is it bad, unreliable, slanted?
 
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7min ago

WHO sends planeload of supplies for Gaza to Egypt

Smoke plumes rising above buildings during an Israeli strike on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip on October 14, 2023. (Said Khatib/AFP)
Smoke plumes rising above buildings during an Israeli strike on Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip on October 14, 2023. (Said Khatib/AFP)

A planeload of World Health Organization supplies lands at Egypt’s el-Arish airport and is destined for Gaza when humanitarian access across the border is possible, the UN says.

The cache includes enough basic essentials for 300,000 people and enough trauma medicines and materials for 1,200 wounded, the UN says in a release. It calls for opening the Rafah border crossing immediately to humanitarian deliveries.

“The critically injured, the sick and the vulnerable cannot wait,” the world body says.
I hope against hope that these supplies get to those in need and are not confiscated by the terrorists. :(
 
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Maybe I'm' suppose to know this already but... What is Axios news? Is it bad, unreliable, slanted?

“High credibility ” “slightly to moderately left of center”

Edit: correct quotes
 
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“Highly reliable” “slightly left of center”

Maybe this is old news but I'm posting

Iran sent a message to Israel on Saturday stressing that it does not want further escalation in the Hamas-Israel war, but that it will have to intervene if the Israeli operation in Gaza continues, two diplomatic sources with knowledge of the situation told Axios.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/14/iran-warning-israel-hezbollah-hamas-war-gaza
 
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@HerbieZiskend46


READOUT: “This afternoon, President Biden spoke with Palestinian Authority President Abbas. President Biden condemned Hamas’ brutal attack on Israel and reiterated that Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people’s right to dignity and self-determination.”

 

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11:36 pm

Biden tells PM the US is working with Egypt, Jordan, UN on aiding civilians

In his conversation with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu earlier today, US President Joe Biden says the US is working “with the United Nations, Egypt, Jordan, Israel and others” in order to ensure civilians have “access to water, food and medical care.”

According to the president’s office, Biden reiterates “the need for all countries to unequivocally condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization that does not represent the aspirations of the Palestinian people.”

Biden and Netanyahu have spoken five times since the war began last Saturday with Hamas’s vicious attack on Israel.
 
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Hamas in rare English ‘press conference’ as it tries to counter global condemnation​

The terror group claimed its gunmen were ‘keen to avoid harming civilians’ and blamed the Israeli military for the deaths of its citizens


Hamas used a rare pre-recorded English language press conference to claim it had given “clear instructions” to its fighters not to target civilians as it sought to counter waves of international condemnation.

What a load of Bull. There were at least 260 dead civilians at the Music Festival grounds. There is no way that those young people were mistakenly slaughtered. That was all out murder----they were chased down and murdered, while others were taken hostage, to probably be murdered later.
Basim Naim, the terrorist group’s head of international relations, insisted its gunmen were “keen to avoid harming civilians” - in an apparent desperate and easily-disproved attempt at media management.
Exactly---desperate and easily disproved rhetoric.
Speaking into four microphones, Naim said on Thursday night that Hamas terrorists had “targeted only Israeli military bases and compounds that were suffocating the people of Gaza for more than 17 years.”

Really? Those elderly people killed at the bus stops? And those babies killed in their cribs:? And all of the families who died in house fires set by the invaders?
He was accompanied by spokesman Ghazi Hamad. The pair appeared in front of a green screen, with scenes of urban warfare projected onto the backdrop.

Other Hamas officials have claimed the 260 party-goers massacred at the Supernova festival on Saturday may have been mistaken for “resting” soldiers.

Oh no, they can't be serious. Anyone who has seen the videos KNOW that it was obviously a public music festival, full of young people partying, not soldiers 'resting.' Such bold faced lies being told.
 
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Real quick- a HUGE thanks to all of you who are posting updates and videos here. I appreciate y’all doing all the legwork so that I and others are able to scroll and read in one place!
Yes!! You read my mind!
 
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CNN had Wolf Blitzer on a call with Egypt's Foreign Minister.

He claims the Egypt side of the Rafah border is open, but it is the "Israeli" side that is closed because of bombing. Curiously, he stated that the border will open when HAMAS releases the hostages.

That, of course, would be ideal, but it doesn't really address the relief aid that is currently in eastern Egypt and being flown in to the local airport, waiting to be transported in, regardless of whether people can exit Gaza into Egypt. The foreign minister did not address how this was going to happen.

This report from Reuter's 5 hours ago states that there have been 5 planes with relief supplies landed in Al Arish airport

"Al Arish airport

Two aid flights, including one from Turkey, have landed at Sinai's Al Arish airport, about 45 km (28 miles) from the Gaza border, bringing the total number of planes that have arrived this week carrying humanitarian relief for Gaza to at least five, the Red Cross official and the aid volunteer said"
 
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Israel-Hamas war live: rockets fired from Syria as Israel prepares ground invasion of Gaza (theguardian.com)

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Iranian foreign minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian appears to have met with Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Doha, Qatar this evening.

The exact meeting details have yet to be disclosed.


I don't know if Qatar could be called "neutral" but it is important to realize Qatar has a large US military base there and was instrumental in prior peace talks during conflicts between Israelis and Palestinians.

US Secretary of State Blinken was just there talking to Qatari leaders to get their assistance in making progress on hostage releases.
 
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CNN had Wolf Blitzer on a call with Egypt's Foreign Minister.

He claims the Egypt side of the Rafah border is open, but it is the "Israeli" side that is closed because of bombing. Curiously, he stated that the border will open when HAMAS releases the hostages.

That, of course, would be ideal, but it doesn't really address the relief aid that is currently in eastern Egypt and being flown in to the local airport, waiting to be transported in, regardless of whether people can exit Gaza into Egypt. The foreign minister did not address how this was going to happen.

This report from Reuter's 5 hours ago states that there have been 5 planes with relief supplies landed in Al Arish airport

"Al Arish airport

Two aid flights, including one from Turkey, have landed at Sinai's Al Arish airport, about 45 km (28 miles) from the Gaza border, bringing the total number of planes that have arrived this week carrying humanitarian relief for Gaza to at least five, the Red Cross official and the aid volunteer said"
BBM. Leaders have made it clear they will not address how or when anything is going to happen. They don't want to alert the terrorists of their plans.

JMO
 
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