Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #4

[PommyMommy]

13min ago

German chancellor lands in Israel ahead of meetings with PM, president​

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz (left) arrives in Israel on October 17, 2023, and is greeted by Foreign Minister Eli Cohen (right). (Shlomi Amsallem/Foreign Ministry)

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz lands in Israel ahead of expected meetings with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Isaac Herzog and other officials.

He is greeted at the airport by Foreign Minister Eli Cohen, who welcomes him on “this important visit, which proves that Germany stands by the State of Israel and supports its struggle for the safety of its citizens.”

 

[PommyMommy]

5:01 pm

30 ambassadors to Israel meet wounded victims in Tel Aviv hospital​

Thirty ambassadors from European, South American, and Asian countries visit Ichilov Hospital in Tel Aviv in an expression of support for the wounded.

Ichilov CEO Prof. Ronni Gamzu gives the group a tour of the hospital’s underground hospital facility, where some patients are already being treated.

“This allows us to keep the medical services intact, the best way, and in a protected facility,” he explains.

Gamzu says despite 30 years as a doctor, he has never encountered anything like what happened on October 7: “I have been in wars. I have been in operations. I have gone into battle zones. Things like this I have never seen… It was terror. It was brutal.”

The ambassadors also meet with two people who were shot as Hamas terrorists attacked partygoers at the Supernova festival near Re’im.

Shirel Gabai recounts being shot in the leg as she hid with many others in a small bomb shelter. She sat curled up with dead bodies on top of her until she was rescued.

Tomer Zadik, whose arm was bandaged and in a sling tells the group that the attack had nothing to do with the Israel-Palestine conflict: “I am not a soldier. I am a civilian who went to a music festival with friends to celebrate love, peace, and freedom… What happened was an attack on humanity.”

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hezbollah announced the deaths of two of its operatives, Hussein Abbas Fasa'i and Mahmoud Ahmad Biz. Palestinian sources claim that the two were killed in an IDF strike

https://x.com/ynetnews/status/1714280973108703477?s=20

 

[PommyMommy]

“The 20 children we saw at Beeri. After they tired their hands down behind. After they abused them. They put them in a pile and burned them.”

We are their witnesses and we will make sure that every single person knows what these evil animals did to them.

#HamasIsISIS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714247071484580186

 

[Arkay]

Instagram

www.instagram.com

Don't know if I inserted this correctly as I’m not on Instagram.

It is audio but graphic, do not listen if it will trigger. Very short but I can feel it in my bones.

#HamasIsISIS

Source: Mako is a news channel in Israel.

 

[Leve]

I keep reading that Hamas are not supported by Palestinians.

My question is has the Palestinian people ever had non- terrorist leaders? It really doesn't appear so. Its odd to me that a group of people that supposedly want to lead a peaceful existence have so much death, terror and destruction committed in their name.

 

[Elley Mae]

I keep reading that Hamas are not supported by Palestinians.

My question is has the Palestinian people ever had non- terrorist leaders? It really doesn't appear so. Its odd to me that a group of people that supposedly want to lead a peaceful existence have so much death, terror and destruction committed in their name.

Iirc hamas was voted in 2007 and has had control sonce, question is which palestinians voted for them, at least half.

Jmo

 

[MyBelle]

Iirc hamas was voted in 2007 and has had control sonce, question is which palestinians voted for them, at least half.

Jmo

We have no way of knowing if the 2007 election was a free and fair election. I seriously doubt that it was.

JMO

 

[Leve]

Iirc hamas was voted in 2007 and has had control sonce, question is which palestinians voted for them, at least half.

Jmo

Hamas is just the latest. Palestinian terrorism goes way back

Palestinian groups that have been involved in politically motivated violence include the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Abu Nidal Organization, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas.[12] Several of these groups are considered terrorist organizations by the United States government,[13] Canada,[14] the United Kingdom,[15] Japan,[16] New Zealand[17] and the European Union.[18][19]

Palestinian political violence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of Terrorists attacks:

Main article: List of massacres in Israel

• 1974 Japanese Embassy attack in Kuwait
• 1979 Nahariya attack
• 1980 Paris synagogue bombing
• 1981 Antwerp bombing
• 2000 Ramallah lynching
• 2004 Sinai bombings
• 2008 Dimona suicide bombing
• 2011 Itamar attack
• Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy
• Attack on the Saudi embassy in Khartoum
• Avivim school bus massacre
• Beit Lid massacre
• Coastal Road massacre
• Dizengoff Street bus bombing
• Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing
• 1973 Athens Hellinikon International Airport attack
• EgyptAir Flight 648
• El Al Flight 253 attack
• Har Nof synagogue massacre
• Hebrew University massacre
• Hijacking of Achille Lauro
• Jaffa Road bus bombings
• Jerusalem bus 19 suicide bombing
• Karkur junction suicide bombing
• Kiryat Menachem bus bombing
• Lod Airport massacre
• Ma'ale Akrabim massacre
• Ma'alot massacre
• Maxim restaurant suicide bombing
• Mercaz HaRav massacre
• Munich massacre
• Night of the Gliders
• Pan Am Flight 110 Rome – Italy
• Passover massacre
• Pi Glilot bombing
• Rome and Vienna airport attacks
• Sabena Flight 571
• Savoy Hotel Attack
• Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing
• Shawarma restaurant bombing
• Swissair Flight 330

I have a super hard time seeing Palestinians as innocent victims.

 

[Sundog]

RSBM

Gilad Shalit

A video that explains the negotiations undertaken to get him home. He was exchanged for 1027 prisoners. The number of prisoners that Hamas managed to get back in return for releasing Gilad, is the very reason that Hamas is now stating, "We have enough to free all Palestinian prisoners" (referring to the hostages they now hold **Note that this is a War Crime).

Hamas says it has enough Israeli captives to free all Palestinian prisoners

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Hamas deputy chief Saleh al-Arouri says group expects fighting with Israel to continue.

www.aljazeera.com

‘I feared I would be forgotten,’ Shalit says in first interview, a year after release

Former captive soldier tells Channel 10 that watching and playing sports helped keep him sane

www.timesofisrael.com

Amazing story of survival after five years in captivity and what he did to stay alive, games he invented, maps he drew to remember his home (when he had writing materials, etc.

And also for his family who waited five years for his return.

"Both of his parents spoke about their son’s time in captivity. “When I ate, I wondered, did Gilad eat?” his mother said. “Did he drink? It’s with me 24 hours a day.”

 

[Simply Southern]

I agree. They are literally stuck in the middle.

The thing HAMAS is counting on though is the world's reaction to no supplies being allowed in. It is not their fault in the world's eyes.. it's Israel's fault or Egypt, or everyone else but them. They can push their propaganda that Israel is bombing the crossing, Egypt won't allow the crossing to open, etc. People forgetting that HAMAS begin this horrific ordeal and they can somehow look better because they will release hostages if Israel stops bombing, if supplies are allowed in, etc. They are likely the ones causing the supplies to not be in Gaza yet. This is what frustrates me.. the media jumps on all these sensational headlines and Israel ends up looking like the bad guys.

Totally agree. Hamas was able to stockpile weapons, stock their tunnels and plan for this attack for sometime. Moo, using humanitarian aid/$$ meant for it's citizens.

Why are we not blaming Hamas for not stockpiling food, water and supplies for it's people? They knew the potential outcome of an attack. Hum....could it be part of their plan to rid Gaza of citizens and take total control.

Why are we blaming Israel for Egypt not opening their border? They clearly do not want to allow potential terrorist into their homeland. Jordan doesn't want them. Has anyone spoken up to house these refugees?

Why should Israel continue to supply water to terrorist holding it's people hostage? Humanitarian aid, we say....wheres the humanity in holding hostages, babies, children, no less?

Hamas knew an attack would result in retaliation, they are not fools. They did not plan to feed, house and provide medical care, knowing the outcome. Now they blame the world for the position they have created.

I have great sympathy for the Gaza people. But, as they blame others for the perils they are experiencing, rather than the terrorist who rule their territory, I understand why they are imprisoned within Gaza.

All my opinion

 

[Elley Mae]

Hamas is just the latest. Palestinian terrorism goes way back

Palestinian groups that have been involved in politically motivated violence include the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO), Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command (PFLP-GC), the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Abu Nidal Organization, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas.[12] Several of these groups are considered terrorist organizations by the United States government,[13] Canada,[14] the United Kingdom,[15] Japan,[16] New Zealand[17] and the European Union.[18][19]

Palestinian political violence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

List of Terrorists attacks:

Main article: List of massacres in Israel

• 1974 Japanese Embassy attack in Kuwait
• 1979 Nahariya attack
• 1980 Paris synagogue bombing
• 1981 Antwerp bombing
• 2000 Ramallah lynching
• 2004 Sinai bombings
• 2008 Dimona suicide bombing
• 2011 Itamar attack
• Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy
• Attack on the Saudi embassy in Khartoum
• Avivim school bus massacre
• Beit Lid massacre
• Coastal Road massacre
• Dizengoff Street bus bombing
• Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing
• 1973 Athens Hellinikon International Airport attack
• EgyptAir Flight 648
• El Al Flight 253 attack
• Har Nof synagogue massacre
• Hebrew University massacre
• Hijacking of Achille Lauro
• Jaffa Road bus bombings
• Jerusalem bus 19 suicide bombing
• Karkur junction suicide bombing
• Kiryat Menachem bus bombing
• Lod Airport massacre
• Ma'ale Akrabim massacre
• Ma'alot massacre
• Maxim restaurant suicide bombing
• Mercaz HaRav massacre
• Munich massacre
• Night of the Gliders
• Pan Am Flight 110 Rome – Italy
• Passover massacre
• Pi Glilot bombing
• Rome and Vienna airport attacks
• Sabena Flight 571
• Savoy Hotel Attack
• Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing
• Shawarma restaurant bombing
• Swissair Flight 330

I have a super hard time seeing Palestinians as innocent victims.

Grand Mufta

The Arabs were Germany’s natural friends, Haj Amin al-Husseini told the Nazi leader in 1941, because they had the same enemies — namely the English, the Jews and the Communists

Full official record: What the mufti said to Hitler

The Arabs were Germany's natural friends, Haj Amin al-Husseini told the Nazi leader in 1941, because they had the same enemies -- namely the English, the Jews and the Communists

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Friday Fan]

'We are not leaving' - The families who won't evacuate Gaza City

Despite a looming Israeli ground assault, many families are unwilling or unable to leave northern Gaza.

www.bbc.com

 

[Sundog]

31min ago

Gallant in message to Hamas terrorists: Surrender or die​

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant speaks to pilots at the Nevatim airbase in southern Israel, October 17, 2023. (Ariel Hermoni/Defense Ministry)

Defense Minister Yoav Gallant says members of the Hamas terror group have two options in the ongoing war in the Gaza Strip: to surrender or to die.

“Our planes will reach everywhere… every missile has an address. We will reach each and every one of the members of Hamas,” Gallants says to pilots and technicians of the Israel Air Force’s F-35 fleet at the Nevatim airbase.

“Hamas members have two options: Either die in their positions or surrender unconditionally. There is no third option. We will wipe out the Hamas organization and dismantle it of all its capabilities,” Gallant says.

"... each missile has an address."

(Israeli Defense Minister speaking to pilots at the airbase in southern Israel.)

 

[Leve]

'We are not leaving' - The families who won't evacuate Gaza City

Despite a looming Israeli ground assault, many families are unwilling or unable to leave northern Gaza.

www.bbc.com

That's his choice but I feel horrible that this man has chosen to put the life of that little boy sitting behind him in danger.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Totally agree. Hamas was able to stockpile weapons, stock their tunnels and plan for this attack for sometime. Moo, using humanitarian aid/$$ meant for it's citizens.

Why are we not blaming Hamas for not stockpiling food, water and supplies for it's people? They knew the potential outcome of an attack. Hum....could it be part of their plan to rid Gaza of citizens and take total control.

Why are we blaming Israel for Egypt not opening their border? They clearly do not want to allow potential terrorist into their homeland. Jordan doesn't want them. Has anyone spoken up to house these refugees?

Why should Israel continue to supply water to terrorist holding it's people hostage? Humanitarian aid, we say....wheres the humanity in holding hostages, babies, children, no less?

Hamas knew an attack would result in retaliation, they are not fools. They did not plan to feed, house and provide medical care, knowing the outcome. Now they blame the world for the position they have created.

I have great sympathy for the Gaza people. But, as they blame others for the perils they are experiencing, rather than the terrorist who rule their territory, I understand why they are imprisoned within Gaza.

All my opinion

BBM Hamas did stockpile water, food, medications, cash. For themselves. IMO

 

[MyBelle]

That's his choice but I feel horrible that this man has chosen to put the life of that little boy sitting behind him in danger.

Where do you expect him to go? He and his family are victims no matter whether they stay or leave.

JMO

 

[Momoffourboys]

Live update: 100 Jewish groups condemn deadly attack on 6-year-old US-Palestinian boy

100 Jewish groups condemn deadly attack on 6-year-old US-Palestinian boy

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Chimera]

I keep reading that Hamas are not supported by Palestinians.

My question is has the Palestinian people ever had non- terrorist leaders? It really doesn't appear so. Its odd to me that a group of people that supposedly want to lead a peaceful existence have so much death, terror and destruction committed in their name.

Agreed.
It's the 'elephant in the room'.
The elephant who has lived there for many years.

What the Palestinians who do not agree with Hamas (and others of their ilk) need to do now is: Speak out !
Condemn them.

Maybe the residents of Gaza are afraid, and I don't fault them for that, but in that case --if possible, apply for citizenship in another country and move.
And then continue to condemn Hamas, and reveal what they do to the ordinary people in Gaza.
I don't doubt there are some Palestinians who want to see a better future for their children and an end to this Hamas madness -- they need to be strong and rise up against the terrorists.
Omo.

 

[Leve]

Where do you expect him to go? He and his family are victims no matter whether they stay or leave.

JMO

Maybe he is a victim or maybe he is allowing himself and his family to be used as a human shield. We really don't know. In any case, I would rather my children be alive and have to rebuild then crushed beneath a building - but that would be my choice.