Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #4

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We interviewed the experts who conducted autopsies on the bodies of Hamas massacre victims.

“Several bodies were brought to us in a terrible exposition. Most of them were burned.

In this case we can see an adult and a kid that were tied together (with iron wire).”

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We interviewed the experts who conducted autopsies on the bodies of Hamas massacre victims.

“I’ve never seen people that are conjoined together while they are burned trying to hug each other.”

#Hamas_is_ISIS
 
  • #122
Either that or some more rocket construction by Hamas is underway/ongoing. Or Hamas also has a valve that they can turn on/off on their side of the border.
Ah, good points.
 
  • #123
Viewer discretion advised.

We interviewed the experts who conducted autopsies on the bodies of Hamas massacre victims.

“Several bodies were brought to us in a terrible exposition. Most of them were burned.

In this case we can see an adult and a kid that were tied together (with iron wire).”

Viewer discretion advised.

We interviewed the experts who conducted autopsies on the bodies of Hamas massacre victims.

“I’ve never seen people that are conjoined together while they are burned trying to hug each other.”

#Hamas_is_ISIS
Wow....just, Wow....
 
  • #124
Israel-Hamas war live updates: Gaza still in dire crisis as Israel readies attack by ‘air, sea and land’ (nbcnews.com)
7m ago / 11:05 AM PDT

Graham issues warning to Iran​

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., warned Iran against escalating the ongoing Israel-Hamas war that has killed thousands of Israelis and Palestinians.

“Here’s my message: if Hezbollah, which is a proxy of Iran, launches a massive attack on Israel, I would consider that a threat to the State of Israel, existential in nature,” Graham said in an interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday.

Graham said he will introduce a resolution in the Senate to “allow military action by the United States in conjunction with Israel to knock Iran out of the oil business.”

“Iran, if you escalate this war, we’re coming for you,” he said.


The South Carolina Republican also announced a trip with a bipartisan group of senators to Saudi Arabia and Israel in the coming days.

Read the full story here.
 
  • #125
8:48 pm

Romney: If Palestinians are killed in this war it’s Hamas’s fault

In the question-and-answer section of the Tel Aviv press conference with a bipartisan group of US senators, Utah’s Mitt Romney says that Palestinian civilians will be injured and killed as the war continues, but it is “because of Hamas, not because of Israel.”

“Hamas is holding their own population as human shields,” he says. “They’re using Palestinians to protect their own lives.”

Romney also blasts those in the US “with isolationist tendencies.”

The Republican senator says that a war is being waged against freedom by Hamas, Russia, Iran and China.

Schumer says the war is being fought so that “the threat of Hamas and its evilness is removed, and the hostages are returned.”
BBM. I agree with Romney that Hamas is to blame but now is not the time for Romney to get into U.S. politics and "isolationist tendencies" in this country. I have no clue what he even means by that.

More than a year ago, President Biden pledged over $300 million in financial aid to Palestine. If Hamas has any access to that money, it must be frozen.

JMO

 
  • #126
Viewer discretion advised.

We interviewed the experts who conducted autopsies on the bodies of Hamas massacre victims.

“Several bodies were brought to us in a terrible exposition. Most of them were burned.

In this case we can see an adult and a kid that were tied together (with iron wire).”

Viewer discretion advised.

We interviewed the experts who conducted autopsies on the bodies of Hamas massacre victims.

“I’ve never seen people that are conjoined together while they are burned trying to hug each other.”

#Hamas_is_ISIS

“I’ve never seen people that are conjoined together while they are burned trying to hug each other.”

#Hamas_is_ISIS
 
  • #127
Wow....just, Wow....
Yeah... :( They're both horrible but that second one really got to me when the ME explained they knew that the victim and the others in the home were burned alive because of the soot in the lungs. He couldn't even hold it together to finish his presentation. So horrifying. MOO
 
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Israel-Hamas war live updates: Gaza still in dire crisis as Israel readies attack by ‘air, sea and land’ (nbcnews.com)
7m ago / 11:05 AM PDT

Graham issues warning to Iran​

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., warned Iran against escalating the ongoing Israel-Hamas war that has killed thousands of Israelis and Palestinians.

“Here’s my message: if Hezbollah, which is a proxy of Iran, launches a massive attack on Israel, I would consider that a threat to the State of Israel, existential in nature,” Graham said in an interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday.

Graham said he will introduce a resolution in the Senate to “allow military action by the United States in conjunction with Israel to knock Iran out of the oil business.”

“Iran, if you escalate this war, we’re coming for you,” he said.


The South Carolina Republican also announced a trip with a bipartisan group of senators to Saudi Arabia and Israel in the coming days.

Read the full story here.
From the article: (BBM)

“I want to applaud President Biden for his strong statement, and support of Israel. I just got off the phone with the Israelis. Their goal is to destroy Hamas in the south and try to save as many innocent Palestinians as possible to prevent escalation north from Hezbollah,” Graham said in an interview on NBC News' "Meet the Press" on Sunday.”
 
  • #129
I've not been able to watch the graphic video clips, but still haven't been able to sleep at night...:(:(
 
  • #130
9:13 pm

Netanyahu meeting top military and intelligence chiefs

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (R) speaks with Mossad chief David Barnea at the IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv on October 15, 2023 (Kobi gideon/GPO)
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (R) speaks with Mossad chief David Barnea at the IDF headquarters in Tel Aviv on October 15, 2023 (Kobi gideon/GPO)

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is holding a security consultation at military headquarters in Tel Aviv with cabinet ministers and the heads of the IDF, Mossad and Sin Bet, his office says.

Among those taking part are Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant, Minister of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer, Minister Benny Gantz, Minister Gadi Eisenkot, MK Aryeh Deri, the heads of the NSC, Mossad, Shin Bet, Chiefs of Staff, and other senior intelligence officials.
 
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Israel-Hamas war live updates: Gaza still in dire crisis as Israel readies attack by ‘air, sea and land’ (nbcnews.com)
7m ago / 11:05 AM PDT

Graham issues warning to Iran​

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., warned Iran against escalating the ongoing Israel-Hamas war that has killed thousands of Israelis and Palestinians.

“Here’s my message: if Hezbollah, which is a proxy of Iran, launches a massive attack on Israel, I would consider that a threat to the State of Israel, existential in nature,” Graham said in an interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” on Sunday.

Graham said he will introduce a resolution in the Senate to “allow military action by the United States in conjunction with Israel to knock Iran out of the oil business.”

“Iran, if you escalate this war, we’re coming for you,” he said.


The South Carolina Republican also announced a trip with a bipartisan group of senators to Saudi Arabia and Israel in the coming days.

Read the full story here.
How incredibly irresponsible for a U.S. Senator to threaten another nation with a war. Especially considering Iran has publicly denied aiding Hamas.


JMO
 
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How incredibly irresponsible for a U.S. Senator to threaten another nation with a war. Especially considering Iran has publicly denied aiding Hamas.


JMO

We all know that Iran's fingerprints are all over this and that the $40 billion plus that Iran is making from selling their oil is funding Hamas and Hezbolah and other militant groups. Lindsey is calling them out on this.
 
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Israel Gaza live news: US pushes for aid for Gaza as Israel prepares ground offensive - BBC News
Posted at 11:3211:32

Gaza hospital 'using one month of supplies every day'​

Ghassan Abu Sitta is a British-Palestinian surgeon working for Doctors Without Borders at the Al Shifa hospital in northern Gaza.

He says staff do not have enough equipment to help people - and they are running out.

"In terms of medical supplies, we consume a month or a month-and-a-half of medical supplies every day in this emergency," he says.

"Every five minutes there is an ambulance," he says, adding that they are seeing "devastating complex poly-trauma injuries" that require lots of treatment resources.

He says 14 doctors and 13 nurses that work at Al Shifa have died so far in Israeli airstrikes. Two others have lost their homes.

Asked if the hospital plans to evacuate in the event of ground incursion, he says "absolutely not".

"It is not possible to evacuate a hospital of this size, and most of the patients are critically wounded," he says, adding that about 40% of the injured are children.

"We will stay with out patients and we will defend our patients right to life until the very end," says Sitta.
 
  • #135
How incredibly irresponsible for a U.S. Senator to threaten another nation with a war. Especially considering Iran has publicly denied aiding Hamas.


JMO
IMO it's hilarious to threaten Iran by proposing 'to introduce a resolution in the Senate', especially when the Senate is completely disfunctional right now.

JMO
 
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We all know that Iran's fingerprints are all over this and that the $40 billion plus that Iran is making from selling their oil is funding Hamas and Hezbolah and other militant groups. Lindsay is calling them out on this.
It's not Graham's job to threaten another nation with war. He needs to let Secretary Blinken do his job and stay out of Israel's war on Hamas. Israel hasn't declared war on Iran.

JMO
 
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It's not Graham's job to threaten another nation with war. He needs to let Secretary Blinken do his job and stay out of Israel's war on Hamas. Israel hasn't declared war on Iran.

JMO
Not publicly, anyway...
 
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IMO it's hilarious to threaten Iran by proposing 'to introduce a resolution in the Senate', especially when the Senate is completely disfunctional right now.

JMO

The Senate is working and in fine shape.

It is the US House of Representatives that is a shambles. Unfortunately, they have to start the resolutions to fund proposals and bills. The Senate is poised to act, once the House has an elected Speaker and can get it together to actually pass a resolution.
 
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It's not Graham's job to threaten another nation with war. He needs to let Secretary Blinken do his job and stay out of Israel's war on Hamas. Israel hasn't declared war on Iran.

JMO

Like this latest group of senators to go to Israel, Senator Graham will be leading a group of senators to Israel as well. All of them are entitled to their opinions whether we agree with them or not. And none of them are staying out of Israel's war with Hamas, as we are seeing.

If Senator Graham's resolution can help get discussion going about enforcing the U.S. sanctions against Iran, than that would be worthwhile. That would llimit Iran's ability to fund terrorism as they feel the impact of the sanctions on their economy.

As with most things of this nature, it's complicated. Senator Graham obviously feels strongly about this, and his colleagues in the Senate can hear him out and discuss this.

They can say a lot of things that the White House and Cabinet members can't say.
 
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5min ago

Herzog tells CNN that terrorists had manuals how to torture and kidnap people


President Isaac Herzog shows a terror manual on how to kidnap and torture people taken from the body of a Hamas terrorist in an interview with CNN on October 15, 2023 (Screencapture)
President Isaac Herzog shows a terror manual on how to kidnap and torture people taken from the body of a Hamas terrorist in an interview with CNN on October 15, 2023 (Screencapture)

President Isaac Herzog tells CNN that marauding Hamas terrorists who infiltrated Israel last week in an unprecedented onslaught were carrying manuals with instructions on how to torture and kidnap those they found.

“This was found on the body of one of the terrorists, this is a booklet, okay, this booklet is an instruction guide, how to go into civilian areas, into a kibbutz, a city, a moshav, how to break in,” Herzog tells Wolf Blitzer.

“And first thing what do you do when you find the citizens, you torture them. This is the booklet, it says exactly how to torture them, how to abduct them, how to kidnap them,” Herzog says holding up a copy of the pamphlet.

During the onslaught on Israeli border communities, the terrorists killed some 1,300 people, most of them civilians, and took at least 155 hostages.

Herzog notes that many of the hostages are elderly or children.

“Who are these hostages? Babies, pregnant women, elderly people with dementia, even with caretakers, families, innocent civilians, from 36 nations — people were killed or abducted from 36 nations,” he says.

He also recounts some of the horrors he saw while touring Kibbutz Be’eri, one of the hardest-hit places, this morning.

“I saw the most horrific scenes. I saw, I saw the scalp of the woman in a house I visited, a house totally destroyed, totally destroyed. And they just cut her head off,” he said.
 
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