Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #4

[Momoffourboys]

Ambassador Michael Herzog



@AmbHerzog


To all those who rushed to condemn Israel before seeing any evidence: IDF Intelligence from multiple sources clearly indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza. They kill not only Israelis but also Palestinians, and they have no qualms lying about it.

https://x.com/AmbHerzog/status/1714372064369328514?s=20

 

[JennieM]

Blast at hospital from 'rocket aimed at Haifa' - Regev​

More from Mark Regev, the senior adviser to the Israeli Prime Minister, who has told BBC News it is the belief of the Israeli authorities that a Hamas rocket was to blame for the blast at the Al Ahli hospital.
"We know that at the time of this tragedy in Gaza, there was a huge barrage against targets in central Israel. We had the siren here in Tel Aviv, and I went to a bomb shelter," he said.
"We know they fired rockets at that same time. Hamas put out a statement that they were sending a long-range rocket on Haifa [northern Israel] at this time."
"Now no rocket actually reached Haifa. Where did that rocket go? Where did it land?"
The BBC is working to verify what caused the blast at the Al Ahli hospital, which Hamas authorities have blamed on the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233

 

[Simply Southern]

They also said in a previous stmt earlier that if Israel would stop bombing that they would release hostages. And a little over an hour ago - they said they would release hostages within the hour according to news sources. They aren’t releasing any hostages.

NBC headlines...

The articles stated Hamas wants all Palestinians in jail released.

Moo...NBC headlines misrepresented the terms of release.

 

[JennieM]

BBC News Live now, guest:

“What Israel needs now is honest friends.”

 

[Friday Fan]

They also said in a previous stmt earlier that if Israel would stop bombing that they would release hostages. And a little over an hour ago - they said they would release hostages within the hour according to news sources. They aren’t releasing any hostages.

I know. I made a comment on that post. Basically "stop for an hour" and see if it happens. Sounded like BS.


Of course, they were probably really saying, "Stop the war and we will release the hostages in an hour". But then again, you can't trust them. Also even seriously commenting on hostage negotiation on Websleuths is beyond my pay scale. I sat on pins and needles with the Iran hostage crisis, then there was the Lebanese...

I really don't know how this works....I trust the Israeli govt more than my comments.

 

[Simply Southern]

Blast at hospital from 'rocket aimed at Haifa' - Regev​

More from Mark Regev, the senior adviser to the Israeli Prime Minister, who has told BBC News it is the belief of the Israeli authorities that a Hamas rocket was to blame for the blast at the Al Ahli hospital.
"We know that at the time of this tragedy in Gaza, there was a huge barrage against targets in central Israel. We had the siren here in Tel Aviv, and I went to a bomb shelter," he said.
"We know they fired rockets at that same time. Hamas put out a statement that they were sending a long-range rocket on Haifa [northern Israel] at this time."
"Now no rocket actually reached Haifa. Where did that rocket go? Where did it land?"
The BBC is working to verify what caused the blast at the Al Ahli hospital, which Hamas authorities have blamed on the Israeli military.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233

Is this an attempt at the truth ...moo

 

[JennieM]

BBC News Live: People can’t charge their phones in Gaza, so unlikely there will be many videos from phone footage.

 

[JennieM]

BREAKING​

Palestinian Islamic Jihad deny blame for blast at hospital​

The Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) has denied Israeli suggestions it was responsible for a blast at the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza City, the Reuters news agency quotes the militant group as saying.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233

 

[JennieM]

Scores of injured people are being taken to Al-Shifa Hospital following what Palestinian officials say was an Israeli airstrike on Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza City, Gaza on Tuesday, October 17, 2023. Ali Jadallah/Anadolu/Getty Images

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as crisis in Gaza deepens

US President Joe Biden will visit Israel on Wednesday as he seeks to demonstrate staunch support for the country while also pressing for ways to ease humanitarian suffering in Gaza. Follow here for the latest.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

BREAKING​

Palestinian Islamic Jihad deny blame for blast at hospital​

The Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) has denied Israeli suggestions it was responsible for a blast at the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza City, the Reuters news agency quotes the militant group as saying.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233

I would too if I was slaughtering my own people.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Jonathan Conricus

@jconricus

This may be live footage of the failed rocket that hit the hospital in Gaza. We have said that according to our intelligence analysis, the explosion was caused by a failed rocket fired by the Islamic Jihad.

https://x.com/jconricus/status/1714376318136021443?s=20

(footage aired on Al Jazeera)

 

[Momoffourboys]

Israel National News - Arutz Sheva

@ArutzSheva_En

PM
@netanyahu
: "The ones who murdered our children, murdered their own children as well."

https://x.com/ArutzSheva_En/status/1714375173749490111?s=20

 

[cuffem]

Waiting for the NYT to retract its statement/article blaming Israel.

Yahoo still has it blaming Israel on their front page. Noticing a pro Palestine lean in their reports lately.

 

[JennieM]

BBC Live News, Egypt said is happy to open the crossing but Israel still won’t allow it because they are trying to figure out how aid will not fall in Hamas hands.

 

[margarita25]

dbm

 

[Gypsy Road]

Yahoo still has it blaming Israel on their front page. Noticing a pro Palestine lean in their reports lately.

I’ve been noticing this as well.<modsnip - off topic>

 

[JennieM]

Location of the hospital within Gaza City​

Here's the location of the Al Ahli hospital where hundreds of people are feared to have died following a strike on Tuesday evening.

As we've been reporting, the Israeli military has denied Hamas's claims that it was behind the explosion, instead saying it was a rocket fired by Palestinian militants that fell short.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67119233

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

I know this is a decades long conflict but is there an unbiased link somewhere to explain like I'm 5 years old the whole thing past and present?

 

[MyBelle]

Well, I'm simply stating: that is just your opinion. I'm talking about being rational.

Obviously, the whole problem in the Middle East is too many people with life or death convictions about what other people, with completely different religious/ ethnic/ cultural/ historical backgrounds "should" or "should not" do.

We are trying to overcome this problem in the West, where we have the benefit of wealth, education and peace, to over-ride those knee-jerk attempts to force other people to think exactly like we do. (We can't even get our own children to think like we do!).

It's one thing when people only had knives, but now everyone has devastating bombs and wants nuclear weapons.

The only hope, IMO, is to get off those high horses and try to focus on what we have in common.

JMO

BBM. Not getting our children to think like we do isn't always a bad thing! People on those high horses never back down, btw.

Yes, we are in the west but there still are too many knee-jerk attempts to force and control the thoughts of other people by extremists who goad crazies into acting out. The barbaric slaughter of a small child and violent attack on his mother in a suburb of Chicago is just one example of crazy nutjobs walking freely amongst us.

We just watched a tv program about the violent pro-Palestine vs Pro-Israel demonstrations happening on college campuses. At one school, students are demanding a college professor--who spouted hateful, anti-Israel rhetoric--be fired. Too bad the highly paid college administrators didn't have enough common sense to figure it out.

JMO hh college leadership couldn't think of that on their own.

JMO

 

[cuffem]

I’ve been noticing this as well. <modsnip - off topic>

They just updated a red banner stating IDF claims it was a Hamas misfire. But the article only shows otherwise.

Biden announces release of 2 American hostages: Full coverage of the Israel-Hamas war

Judith and Natalie Raanan of Evanston, Ill., were visiting family when they were taken during the Oct. 7 attacks.

www.yahoo.com