Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #5

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Reactions to blast at Gaza City hospital​

Here is what leaders have said about the blast at a hospital in Gaza city that has killed 500 people, according to the Palestinian health ministry.

US President Joe Biden:

“I am outraged and deeply saddened by the explosion at the Al Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza, and the terrible loss of life that resulted. Immediately upon hearing this news, I spoke with King Abdullah II of Jordan, and Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel and have directed my national security team to continue gathering information about what exactly happened. The United States stands unequivocally for the protection of civilian life during conflict and we mourn the patients, medical staff and other innocents killed or wounded in this tragedy.”

World Health Organizaation:

“WHO strongly condemns the attack on Al Ahli Arab Hospital in the north of the Gaza Strip. The hospital was operational, with patients, health and care givers, and internally displaced people sheltering there. Early reports indicate hundreds of fatalities and injuries.

“The hospital was one of 20 in the north of the Gaza Strip facing evacuation orders from the Israeli military. The order for evacuation has been impossible to carry out given the current insecurity, critical condition of many patients, and lack of ambulances, staff, health system bed capacity, and alternative shelter for those displaced.

“WHO calls for the immediate active protection of civilians and health care. Evacuation orders must be reversed. International humanitarian law must be abided by, which means health care must be actively protected and never targeted.

Palestinian Hamas leader Ismail Haniyehi:

“The hospital massacre confirms the enemy’s brutality and the extent of his feeling of defeat,” he said, adding that the attack will be “a new turning point.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:

“The entire world should know: It was barbaric terrorists in Gaza that attacked the hospital in Gaza, and not the IDF. Those who brutally murdered our children also murder their own children.”

IDF Spokesperson

“An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.

“Intelligence from multiple sources we have in our hands indicates that Islamic Jihad is responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza.”

Syrian Presidency

“Syria holds Western countries responsible especially the United States of America, for this massacre and others, since they are a partner of the Zionist entity across all organized operations designed to kill Palestinians.”

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan:

“I call on all humanity to take action to stop this unprecedented brutality in Gaza.”

 
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US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, has just posted a statement responding to what happened at Al Ahli Arab hospital, sayng, “All civilians, Israeli and Palestinian, must be protected. Deeply saddened by the explosion at the Al Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza. As @POTUS said, “The United States stands unequivocally for the protection of civilian life.”



 
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Biden plans to ask Israel tough questions "as a friend" during Tel Aviv visit, White House says​

From CNN's Betsy Klein

US President Joe Biden plans to ask “tough questions” as a “friend” to Israel when he spends his Wednesday in Tel Aviv — a trip meant as a forceful public show of support, but also a push for easing a growing humanitarian crisis.

Biden will first meet with Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for a restricted bilateral meeting, National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One in a preview of Wednesday’s trip. That meeting will later broaden to include other US officials and the Israeli War Cabinet.

In those meetings, Kirby said the president is "going to get a sense from the Israelis about the situation on the ground, and, more critically, their objectives, their plans, their intentions in the days and weeks ahead.”

Biden “Will be asking some tough questions. He'll be asking them as a friend — as a true friend of Israel, but he’ll be asking some questions of them," Kirby said.

Pressed later on what those tough questions would be, Kirby said it would not be “adversarial” but rather, “in the spirit of a true, deep friend of Israel.”

The president will “make it clear that we continue to want to see this conflict not widen, not expand, not deepen,” Kirby said, pointing to a “strong signal” from the US with additional military capability. Biden is also expected to discuss Israel’s needs and “make it clear that we will do everything we can to meet those needs,” Kirby said.

Hostages held by Hamas will also be a key topic of discussion, Kirby said, as Biden seeks to find out more from his Israeli counterparts about “where they are, what condition they are in, if they are being moved.”

And he will make the case for a “sustained” humanitarian situation in Gaza, Kirby added.

“We want to see humanitarian assistance flow in — and it's not just a one and done — we want to see it be able to be sustained: food, water, obviously electrical power, medicine, all the things that the people of Gaza are going to continue to need as this conflict continues to go on. So he'll make that case very, very clearly,” he said, adding that Special Envoy David Satterfield is “now on the ground” working with Israeli and Egyptian counterparts.

Later Wednesday, Biden will meet with some families impacted by the violence of the past week, including some who have lost loved ones in Israel, and some who “still don’t know the fate of their loved ones.” Some of those family members have loved ones who are being held hostage, though it was not immediately clear whether they are Americans.

After that, Biden will make public remarks in Tel Aviv, which will be covered by traveling press. And he is also expected to “speak directly” with Israel President Isaac Herzog.

Though Biden’s trip to Amman, Jordan, was canceled, Biden is expected to speak with leaders in the region on Wednesday night as he returns to Washington.

“The President intends to speak with both (Palestinian Authority) President Mahmoud Abbas and (Egypt) President (Abdel Fattah el-) Sisi on the flight home,” Kirby said.

 
Lebanon: On Oct. 17, 2023, the @StateDept raised the Travel Advisory for Lebanon to Level 4 – Do Not Travel due to the unpredictable security situation related to rocket, missile, and artillery exchanges between Israel and Hizballah or other armed militant factions. The Travel Advisory was also updated to reflect the authorized departure of some non-emergency U.S. government personnel and eligible family members from U.S. Embassy Beirut due to the unpredictable security situation in Lebanon.
Read the entire Travel Advisory: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Lebanon.html
 
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Iran’s Embassy in Damascus has posted a tweet with the words, in Arabic, “time is up”:




Iran is going to bomb Israel with nukes ?
It appears to be Hebrew font above the Arabic, so this message is intended (imo) for a specific audience.
Thanks for translating this.

I understood from reading and watching recent history; that they weren't supposed to be allowed to be building nukes, but have wondered if they've been doing this anyway in secret.
Holy cow, if so...
Omo
 
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So I had a long post all written out and I lost it. :(. I was trying to bring @Vern ’s post over from the last thread with the time stamps.


Can somebody please bring forward any videos of “the rocket incident” please. Thank you.
Post 1139, Thread #4 // Posts weirdly - I am copying in my post from earlier this evening along with the timestamps that I also noted in it. For some reason, the link below does actually go to my earlier, original post from the previous thread, but it just looks as if it goes elsewhere. LOL.


Times of Israel releasing recordings of the hospital explosion:

Al Jazeera Gaza Live Feed:
I note timestamps of:
9 seconds: where airborne rocket can be seen to "fail" on the screen;
10 - 14s: Rocket can be seen streaking downwards toward the ground;
17 seconds: huge explosion can be seen at the hospital right underneath where the rocket was. Al Jazeera then zooms in on the hospital.


Another video from Al Jazeera appears to show the same failed rocket.

Surveillance camera footage from Netiv Haasara:
(Low horizon footage) Timestamps:
0 - 16 seconds: Barrage of Rockets being launched in Gaza;
(Note: misfire cannot be seen on this screen due to low horizon angle);
19 seconds: Huge explosion can be seen on ground underneath at the hospital. Note that is the same 3 second difference in time from the above video from last firing to explosion at hospital.

 
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