Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

[Friday Fan]

Can someone please explain to me why there are many people that think Hamas’s is justified in terrorizing and killing Israel people, but the same people say nothing at all when Hamas has been slaughtering, and starving the people of Palestine for many many years?

There are powers that are using Hamas for their own benefit: Iran etc.

There are westerners who are pro-Palestinian, but there are a few deluded ones who are pro-Hamas.
Most are deluded. (Some of the pro-Palestinian rallies after Oct 7)

Some are truly pro-Hamas.

So, in terms of westerners, the number who are pro-Hamas are probably pretty small.
Can't speak for the Middle East.

 

[Sundog]

Can someone please explain to me why there are many people that think Hamas’s is justified in terrorizing and killing Israel people, but the same people say nothing at all when Hamas has been slaughtering, and starving the people of Palestine for many many years?

No moral compass, political idealogues, and more.

JMO

 

[fred&edna]

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When it comes to the Defcon level, as well as tracking the "doomsday plane", and using the word "nuclear"... I become a bit like an ostrich.

 

[Gypsy Road]

'Father look at your phone I sent you pictures, I killed 10 Jews. Dad, 10 Jews with my own hands, the blood is still on my hands'
Our @Guyaz recounts some of the horrible uncensored bodycam footage the Israeli government showed to foreign journalists of the October 7 attack

https://x.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1716491374294454400?s=20

Were these terrorists home grown? Is dad still alive and teaching his grandchildren the same values he taught his son?

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716497850052272401

 

[Momoffourboys]

Snipped by me but much more at link:
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Moments after they enter presumed safety, a hand appears onscreen, tossing a grenade in after the family. The father dies, and the boys exit, covered in his blood.

“Dad’s dead, it wasn’t a prank,” one says after they run back into their home. “I know, I saw it,” responds his brother, later screaming, “Why am I alive?”

In the second segment, captured through a call recording application on a victim’s phone, a different son reaches out to a different father. “Dad, I killed 10 with my bare hands,” the terrorist excitedly tells his father in Gaza. “Their blood is on my hands, let me speak to Mom.”

“Please be proud of me, Dad,” he adds.

Identified by his father as Mahmoud, the terrorist says he is calling his family from the phone of a Jewish woman he’s just murdered, and implores them to check his WhatsApp messages for further documentation

IDF shows foreign press Hamas bodycam videos, photos of murder, torture, decapitation

Government says it's revealing horrific footage collected from various sources to the media in order to fight 'Holocaust-like denials' of Hamas's massacres in southern Israel

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

DBM duplicate

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716500663943737402

 

[Arkay]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716434509128765783

IMO it is absolutely imperative that the world knows precisely what Hamas inflicted on their innocent victims.

Shame on those who don’t believe it.

I was not alive during World War Two, so I don’t know how people felt privately about the world at war.

Yet that was between military forces.

IMO, being alive to see what is happening now, I think we are heading toward Armageddon.

These different extremist terrorist entities usually disagree amongst themselves,
but it seems they are all gathering together to achieve their goal of destroying Israel.

Then all the Jews, then everyone who is not Muslim. That’s their stated goal, as we have read numerous times.

This INTENTIONAL infliction of torture, beyond just murder, is proof of a mindset that will not rest until everyone is extinguished who does not share their beliefs. But extinguished in the most abominable ways.

Years ago I read a book called “The Looming Tower.” Maybe in 2006 or so. It was a highly detailed narrative showing how Al-Qaeda and various extremist groups, who had many disagreements and power struggles among themselves, coalesced to plan and execute September 11th.


This Hamas massacre was in the works for awhile.

I personally have no doubts that other terrorists are deep in plans for other attacks. Whether in Israel, the U.S., or anywhere else.

JMO and trying to face the truth.

 

[Vern]

Very true.

But.... I imagine a good number of Palestinians have reasons not to trust Israel. For example:

- Itamar Ben-Gvir is the Israeli Minister of National Security (not just a "guy at a bar"- or even the bar owner)

- Ben Gvir used to display a photo of Baruch Goldstein in his home- and took it down grudgingly. Baruch murdered 29 Palestinians in a terror attack. In speeches prior to the attack, Ben Gvir called Goldstein a "martyr" etc.

I wonder what Ben Gvir's feeling are about the right of Palestinians to exist? What does his appointment show about the current Israeli government? No need to worry though, his appointment to National Security Minister is, of course, fully legal.

Ben Gvir responds to Bennett: Fine, I’ll take down Baruch Goldstein’s picture

* * *

www.timesofisrael.com

Israel: Ben-Gvir gives speech by memorial for ‘martyrs’ Baruch Goldstein and Meir Kahane

National security minister has previously described Goldstein, who massacred 29 Palestinians in 1994, as his ‘hero’

www.middleeasteye.net

For sure.

I have zero tolerance for Gvir or his apparent beliefs.

Every country in the word has it's share of extremists on the left-side and the rght-side of the spectrum. Things like this are why they should never be elected ... but of course, they do get elected by some --- and that is a problem.

 

[Vern]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716426427455655964

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716426669043397098

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716426892352356585

https://twitter.com/mrconfino/status/1716426963223564321

https://twitter.com/mrconfino/status/1716427167649661262

https://twitter.com/mrconfino/status/1716427301045326233

These incidents, and a great many more, were recovered by South First Responders from terrorists' Go-pros.

Disgusting actions.

 

[sds71]

The Biden administration recently sent a Marine three-star general and several other U.S. military officers to Israel to help advise the Israeli military's leadership in its operation in Gaza, according to two U.S. officials and two Israeli officials briefed on the issue.

The Marine Corps officers sent include Lt. Gen. James Glynn, according to a senior Israeli official. Glynn previously headed the Marines' special operations and was involved in the operations against ISIS in Iraq.

• Glynn and the other U.S. military officers are not directing operations but they do provide military advice to the IDF about its plans in Gaza. This has been primarily focused on Israel's expected ground invasion. The American officers have shared lessons the U.S. has learned from fighting ISIS in Mosul.
• Glynn is not expected to stay in Israel to follow the IDF ground invasion, sources with direct knowledge of the issue said.

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/23/israel-gaza-war-marine-general-ground-operation

 

[Gypsy Road]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716500663943737402

Unreal. Despicable.

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716507330274103337

 

[Friday Fan]

Chimera said:
r. When Israel offered 94 per cent of the West Bank to the Palestine Liberation Organization as a separate state, Yasser Arafat turned it down.

2000 Camp David Summit - Wikipedia

Stubborn, delusional or prophetic?? Time will tell

I'm a firm believer in negotiations.

Responding to my own post:

Add in: "It's more important to stick with my own, than to find solutions"

I don't think that train of thought is that uncommon.

 

[otto]

Were these terrorists home grown? Is dad still alive and teaching his grandchildren the same values he taught his son?

It's what I've been saying all along ... these young adults, who enjoy violently brutalizing others, are a product of their society, their education and their government's goals. We have proof not only in documentation about the Gaza curriculum, but in the messages from terrorists to their parents. Those parents are proud of their murderous children. Gaza is a society that produced an Hamas army of brutal murderers for the Hamas government.

Sure, there are young children who are not yet fully indoctrinated with goals to murder people who have different beliefs and values. There are some people who perhaps want nothing to do with it, but there are enough people who proudly raised their sons to decapitate, mutilate and violate in genocidal war making October 7 a reality.

 

[Vern]

Thanks. I heard of Defcon, but honestly didn't know what it was. Because there are other similar types of words that float around and there's always TMI to absorb.
Cool. Didn't know it an Open Source Info thing and didn't know how new it was!!

DEFCON (Defence Readiness Condition)

Has been around for decades as a military system of determining the state of readiness military forces are "currently" subject to based on monitoring of situations developing or developed in the world forum for Nuclear War etc. Based on a number of monitoring factors that intelligence gathers, the DEFCON Level will be raised or lowered etc to put us on alert for threat response as required - our weapons state and NTM (hours Notice to Move) etc.

Many of the Governmental Travel Advisories and Terror Alert Levels that you see in public are actually derived from the same intelligence monitoring that feeds the DEFCON system.

Nice to see it (the level) being tracked on an OSINT forum these days. The highest we (NATO) ever got was DEFCON 4 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The higher the number (1-5), the higher the threat level.

Here's a great video that explains it:

 

[Charlot123]

Pretty disgusting to see this from someone here in Canada. First thing all of us at work picked up on were her Kalashnikov earrings and knew exactly what her speech would be.

Nice girl ... the kind you don't take home to mama. #Heresyoursign

Honestly, she looks either manic or on that drug HAMAS uses, captagon. Or both.

 

[Vern]

Honestly, she looks either manic or on that drug HAMAS uses, captagon. Or both.

I don't think she's on drugs; she's just a 'true believer'; there are, unfortunately a great many of them spread throughout the world these days.

Side Note: Marijuana is legal in this country though.

 

[Momoffourboys]

WARNING: GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716515037173481775