Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

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27min ago

French officials say military cooperation against Hamas is possible

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (R) shakes hands with French President Emmanuel Macron (L) as they hold a joint press conference in Jerusalem on October 24, 2023. (Photo by Christophe Ena / POOL / AFP)

French President Emmanuel Macron (L) as they hold a joint press conference in Jerusalem on October 24, 2023. (Photo by Christophe Ena / POOL / AFP)


After French President Emmanuel Macron brings up the idea of expanding the coalition against ISIS to counter Hamas, an Elysee Palace official says in Jerusalem that France is available “to beef up what we are doing in the coalition against ISIS. We are available to include Hamas in the coalition against ISIS depending on what Israel will ask us to deliver.”

“Not every country is fighting on the ground,” the official continues. “Much will depend on conversations we have with our allies.”

At the same time, the official does not rule out the possibility of military cooperation against Hamas or French boots on the ground.

[...]

“The cause that Israel is fighting for is our cause as well.”

The official says that Macron asked Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for “clarity about the endgame, the modalities with which you operate, the conditions which you create, your political motivation.”

He adds that France wants to “consolidate the perspective of a ceasefire. I know it is very delicate to discuss. But we need again to know where we are going to have the instruments available that can bring back peace and stability.”

[...]

“We believe a key priority remains, which is to free the hostages,” the official says. “We are exploring every option and we believe it very important to do it with Israel.”

France lost 30 citizens in the Hamas assault, and nine are missing.
 
  • #382
3:46 pm

Rocket said to hit West Bank settlement

Reports indicate a rocket shot from Gaza may have fallen in or near the West Bank settlement of Alfei Menashe, northeast of Tel Aviv.

The Magen David Adom emergency service reports there are no injuries from the strike.

11min ago

Sirens sound east of Tel Aviv again

Sirens are blaring all over areas east of Tel Aviv, including towns near Ben-Gurion airport, and West Bank settlements, in what appears to be a large barrage of Gazan rockets.

The barrage is the second toward the area in under 15 minutes.

In between, rocket sirens also sounded in Beersheba.

17min ago

Large rocket barrage fired at central Israel, northern West Bank

A large rocket barrage is fired from Gaza toward central Israel and the northern West Bank.

Sirens sound in Lod, Rehovot, Nes Ziona and surrounding communities in central Israel. Warnings are also heard in settlements in the northern West Bank, including Elkana.

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  • #383
Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli military says it is ‘ready and determined’; death toll in Gaza over 5,700 (theguardian.com)
1m ago14.16 BST

Summary of the day so far …​

It has just gone 4.15pm in Gaza City and in Tel Aviv. Here is a summary of the main developments so far today …
  • The Israeli military spokesperson Daniel Hagari said on Tuesday that the military was “ready and determined” for the next stage in the war and was awaiting political instruction. In a social media post, the Israel Defence Forces claimed to have struck more than 400 targets in the past 24 hours in what was described as “a wide-scale operation to dismantle Hamas’ terrorist capabilities”.
  • At least 5,791 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza since 7 October, according to the Hamas-run Gaza health ministry. It said the number included 2,360 children, and it said 704 Palestinians had been killed in the previous 24 hours alone. A spokesperson for the ministry, Ashraf al-Qidra, said they have received 1,550 reports of missing people, including 870 children, suggested that those missing could still be under the rubble of collapsed buildings. The claims have not been independently verified.
  • Hamas released two more hostages from Gaza on “humanitarian and poor health grounds”. Nurit Cooper, also known as Nurit Yitzhak, 79, and Yocheved Lifschitz, 85, who were kidnapped along with their husbands from the Nir Oz kibbutz near the Gaza border on 7 October.
  • Lifschitz described her ordeal at a press conference in a Tel Aviv hospital. The 85-year-old told reporters she had “been through hell” after being captured by Hamas fighters on motorbikes and beaten with sticks and forced to walk. She went on to describe conditions in the tunnels where she was held, where she said she said people treated her “gently” and “looked after our needs”. The captives were fed and they slept on mattresses. She said there were doctors and paramedics there to tend to wounds. She was critical of Israel’s military for not taking the threat of Hamas seriously enough before the attack.
  • On Monday Israel said it had established that there were 222 confirmed hostages being held in Gaza by Hamas. The IDF said Tuesday it is attempting to contact residents in Gaza to offer them “a better future for you and your child” by providing information “regarding the abductees in your area”.
  • In a joint media appearance with the French president, Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu threatened “horrible consequences” for Hezbollah in Lebanon if it decided to join the war in a meaningful way.
  • Emmanuel Macron called for the release of hostages, and said terrorism was a common enemy of Israel and France. He said terrorism must be fought without mercy, but with rules.
  • Netanyahu said that Hamas must be destroyed, and warned that the war may take some time. He said that after it is finished, nobody will live any more “under Hamas tyranny”.
  • Israel’s president Isaac Herzog has described the 7 October Hamas attack as “one of the worst atrocities of modern times”, and accused Hezbollah in Lebanon of “playing with fire” in Israel’s north. He accused Iran of stoking tension between Hezbollah and Israel.
  • About 1.4 million of Gaza’s 2.3 million-strong population is now displaced, the UN’s humanitarian agency OCHA has said in its latest update, and the shortage of clean drinking water as well as overcrowding has become a “major concern”. Doctors in Gaza say patients arriving at hospitals are showing signs of disease caused by overcrowding and poor sanitation.
[...]
  • The UK has said that twelve British people were killed on 7 October in Israel, and five remain unaccounted for. British-Israeli families of those thought to be held hostage held a press briefing at the Israeli embassy in London. People also took part in a vigil for children killed in Gaza in central London.
 
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  • #385
The White House has ordered the Department of Defense to begin preparing Contingency Plans for a “Worst Case Scenario” in the Middle East which could require the Evacuation of Hundreds of Thousands of U.S. Nationals from the Region with Significant Concern for the roughly 600,000 Americans in Lebanon and Israel.
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Geez I would have thought THIS was already in the "plans". The military has a Plan A, B, C.. etc.. a contingency plan for every plan and yet another if that goes wrong. Just think if they would have began evacuating people oh maybe 2 weeks ago?? I think we could ALL see this time was different. Israel is was not going to NOT respond to this massacre. They have been saying it and saying it and saying it. Look at how many countries in the ME are just complacent in this or even encouraging HAMAS? I think we should have began evacuating people a long time ago. Children and their parents, elderly, and those with medical conditions should have already been asked to evacuate from the area.

I think of Afghanistan and how we departed there and it didn't have to go that way. Have we not learned anything?

I'd say worst case was not needing to evacuate 600,000 people, worst case was waiting until a full blown war is happening BEFORE starting to evacuate people.
 
  • #386
20min ago

IDF chief: Army ready for Gaza incursion, delayed by ‘tactical, strategic’ factors; Oct. 7 changed our reality


IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi at a briefing on October 24, 2023. (Emanuel Fabian/ Times of Israel)
IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi at a briefing on October 24, 2023. (Emanuel Fabian/ Times of Israel)

IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevi says that the Hamas terror group “regrets” launching a war against Israel, and admits that a ground offensive is being delayed by “strategic considerations.”

“Israel is in the midst of a war that was launched by the Hamas terror group. It already regrets it,” he says in a press conference near the Gaza border.

[...]

“What happened [on October 7, with Hamas’s slaughter of 1,400 people in Israel] is unprecedented since the foundation of the state. It will require a fundamental change in our security reality. There will be a cost to that, including as regard the length of the war.

“This war has one address: The Hamas leadership and all those who acted under its command. They will pay the price for what they did,” he says.

He says no one should doubt Hamas’s cruelty and barbarism. “We recommend to Hamas to treat the Israeli citizens it holds hostage with respect.” This is “essential,” he says, and has connection to the “gravity of the treatment” the IDF will mete out to Hamas. There is nothing that can atone in any way, he says, for what Hamas did on October 7, “and since then, to every one of the hostages, the killed, and their families.”

“The IDF is fighting Hamas, it is not fighting Gaza’s populace. The IDF wants the residents of Gaza to come through this war as unharmed as possible,” he says, hence Israel’s urging of residents to evacuate to safe areas, where they will find food, water and medicine. “Every resident of Gaza should take the responsible decision [to avacuate] for the sake of their lives.”

Where fuel is needed by civilians, Israel will ensure it is available. “We will not enable fuel for Hamas, with which it can continue to fight Israel.”
 
  • #387
If Israel sat shiva for all the victims of the October 7 Massacre back to back, we’d be sitting shiva for 27 years.

In the past, perpetrators of crimes against humanity tried to cover up their crimes.

On October 7, Hamas filmed them—to glorify and revel in its atrocities.

Hamas raped little girls so violently it broke their bones.

We will destroy Hamas, and nothing will stop us.

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Freed hostage describes Hamas ordeal (nbcnews.com)
1m ago / 6:48 AM PDT

U.S. issues warning to ships in the Red Sea​

The Associated Press
JERUSALEM — The U.S. is issuing a new warning to ships traveling through the Red Sea after a drone and missile attack launched from Yemen during the Israel-Hamas war.

Today's U.S. Maritime Administration warning urged vessels to “exercise caution when transiting this region.”

The U.S. Navy says it shot down missiles and drones believed to have been launched by Yemen’s Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in recent days amid wider tensions across the Middle East over the war.
 
  • #388
Hamas raped little girls so violently it broke their bones.
It's almost to the point where calling these people "savages" is even insulting to savages.
This is just utterly demonic.
 
  • #389
It's almost to the point where calling these people "savages" is even insulting to savages.
This is just utterly demonic.
Moo...war is savage, it brings out the ugly on all sides. The one that that causes the most death and destruction wins....moo
 
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  • #391
3:46 pm

Rocket said to hit West Bank settlement

Reports indicate a rocket shot from Gaza may have fallen in or near the West Bank settlement of Alfei Menashe, northeast of Tel Aviv.

The Magen David Adom emergency service reports there are no injuries from the strike.

11min ago

Sirens sound east of Tel Aviv again

Sirens are blaring all over areas east of Tel Aviv, including towns near Ben-Gurion airport, and West Bank settlements, in what appears to be a large barrage of Gazan rockets.

The barrage is the second toward the area in under 15 minutes.

In between, rocket sirens also sounded in Beersheba.

17min ago

Large rocket barrage fired at central Israel, northern West Bank

A large rocket barrage is fired from Gaza toward central Israel and the northern West Bank.

Sirens sound in Lod, Rehovot, Nes Ziona and surrounding communities in central Israel. Warnings are also heard in settlements in the northern West Bank, including Elkana.

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Rocket said to hit West Bank settlement

Reports indicate a rocket shot from Gaza may have fallen in or near the West Bank settlement of Alfei Menashe, northeast of Tel Aviv.

So was this another misfire? Or did Hamas intend to hit the West Bank and blame Israel to fire up more unrest and sympathizers to their cause?
 
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Interesting. I wonder if there is a clear reason.

My guess? This son of Netanyahu would be the number one target of Hamas if he returned to Israel. Kinda like Prince Harry when he was 'fighting' in the Royal Navy....

He's staying put, no doubt
 
  • #394
Geez I would have thought THIS was already in the "plans". The military has a Plan A, B, C.. etc.. a contingency plan for every plan and yet another if that goes wrong. Just think if they would have began evacuating people oh maybe 2 weeks ago?? I think we could ALL see this time was different. Israel is was not going to NOT respond to this massacre. They have been saying it and saying it and saying it. Look at how many countries in the ME are just complacent in this or even encouraging HAMAS? I think we should have began evacuating people a long time ago. Children and their parents, elderly, and those with medical conditions should have already been asked to evacuate from the area.

I think of Afghanistan and how we departed there and it didn't have to go that way. Have we not learned anything?

I'd say worst case was not needing to evacuate 600,000 people, worst case was waiting until a full blown war is happening BEFORE starting to evacuate people.
I 100% agree!!
 
  • #395
My guess? This son of Netanyahu would be the number one target of Hamas if he returned to Israel. Kinda like Prince Harry when he was 'fighting' in the Royal Navy....

He's staying put, no doubt
Both Andrew (Falklands) and Harry (Afghanistan) fought in the Army.

I don't remember any news of them hiding in the USA.
 
  • #396
  • #397
3:46 pm

Rocket said to hit West Bank settlement

Reports indicate a rocket shot from Gaza may have fallen in or near the West Bank settlement of Alfei Menashe, northeast of Tel Aviv.

The Magen David Adom emergency service reports there are no injuries from the strike.

11min ago

Sirens sound east of Tel Aviv again

Sirens are blaring all over areas east of Tel Aviv, including towns near Ben-Gurion airport, and West Bank settlements, in what appears to be a large barrage of Gazan rockets.

The barrage is the second toward the area in under 15 minutes.

In between, rocket sirens also sounded in Beersheba.

17min ago

Large rocket barrage fired at central Israel, northern West Bank

A large rocket barrage is fired from Gaza toward central Israel and the northern West Bank.

Sirens sound in Lod, Rehovot, Nes Ziona and surrounding communities in central Israel. Warnings are also heard in settlements in the northern West Bank, including Elkana.

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Interesting; those 5 impact sites shown to the top right on the map images are within Syrian territory.
 
  • #398
I understand that Netanyahu’s brother was the only one killed at Entebbe, and I agree that his son would be target #1 for Hamas, but IMO his son should be back in Israel like all other reservists.

I’m so relieved that the two elderly women hostages are ok, but I have anxiety about them saying that though they went through hell, they were treated nicely. Not blaming them, I know their husbands are still there.
But for the credulous, who don’t want to really really believe the cruelty of Hamas, I’m worried people will forget about the monstrosities Hamas inflicted. Little girls raped until their bones broke!
The beheadings, the burning alive, the torture.

They were given “permission” to rape a corpse???? What demon asks to do that?

NEVER FORGET!
Hamas is Isis
 
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The Daily Mail reporting all kinds of gossip about Yair Netanyahu's life, which only serves to bolster their headline, along with pictures taken in the past that are inappropriately juxtaposed to current events and serve no purpose other than to malign him.
 
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