Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023

[ilovewings]

Agreed.

Do you think that the preparation and training for this attack was done on Iranian soil ?
A lot of secrecy went into this attack !
Omo.

It surely is possible but who knows for sure the details of planning- but they surely planned for a long time, down to the finest details. Now they are threatening to kill the hostages for every bombing in Gaza. I believe they plan to kill the hostages anyway- right now they are using them, and when they are doing using them, they will execute them. JMO

 

[no nonsense]

This is MOO

Whomever the Ma$termind was that planned this barbaric atrocity on human life, they absolutely knew that Israel would react... In a stern, harsh and resolved way. This was planned. And, for what cost? Who wins? We know who looses ( innocents ) Who is now profiting off a 'war'? ( See 6 million $$ .....sitting quietly in a Qatar bank )

I feel like I am back in the 60's

War! Huh. What is it good for? Absolutely nuthin'

Don't you mean $6 BILLION?

 

[MassGuy]

LIVE: Palestinian supporters in New York protest US support of Israel

https://x.com/reuters/status/1711440536438018415?s=46&t=1LeaTK_fug_ONwN11qOyUw

 

[shotgun09]

Don't you mean $6 BILLION?

Thanks! And, yes! 6 Billion indeed. ( Too late to edit )

 

[dotr]

rbbm.

How a night of dancing and revelry in Israel turned into a massacre

The first rockets were fired just before dawn, arcing through the sky over thousands of revelers who had been dancing through the night

torontosun.com

''Relatives searching for the missing at a nearby intersection said more than a thousand people were at the event when the militants attacked. Some festivalgoers estimated the true figure was closer to 3,000 or 4,000.''

''The attendees had not been given the exact location of the festival until a few hours before it began at 10 p.m. Friday. “The event will take place in a powerful natural location full of trees, stunning in its beauty and organized for your convenience, about an hour and a quarter south of Tel Aviv,” ticket buyers were told in the lead-up.''

''The festival was held just three miles from the fence that divides Israel from the Gaza Strip and its around two million inhabitants. The ravers were told not to bring firearms or sharp objects onto the festival grounds. They were tired and defenseless when the attack began, trapped in a wide-open area that offered few hiding places.''

 

[Inthedetails]

rbbm.

How a night of dancing and revelry in Israel turned into a massacre

The first rockets were fired just before dawn, arcing through the sky over thousands of revelers who had been dancing through the night

torontosun.com

''Relatives searching for the missing at a nearby intersection said more than a thousand people were at the event when the militants attacked. Some festivalgoers estimated the true figure was closer to 3,000 or 4,000.''

''The attendees had not been given the exact location of the festival until a few hours before it began at 10 p.m. Friday. “The event will take place in a powerful natural location full of trees, stunning in its beauty and organized for your convenience, about an hour and a quarter south of Tel Aviv,” ticket buyers were told in the lead-up.''

''The festival was held just three miles from the fence that divides Israel from the Gaza Strip and its around two million inhabitants. The ravers were told not to bring firearms or sharp objects onto the festival grounds. They were tired and defenseless when the attack began, trapped in a wide-open area that offered few hiding places.''

Was this an annual event or a one-time/first-time festival at that location?

jmo

 

[Gardenista]

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The Zaka search and rescue organization says it has identified more than 100 dead bodies in Kibbutz Be'eri on the Gaza border.

 

[Elley Mae]

Paragliders, kidnappings and rockets: How did Hamas pull off such an audacious attack?

A combination of old-fashioned espionage and high-tech surveillance was meant to keep Israelis safe. But when Hamas smashed through the fence, all the systems seemed to fail.

www.abc.net.au

 

[dotr]

Was this an annual event or a one-time/first-time festival at that location?

jmo

Inside the Israeli festival of 'good news' where hundreds were murdered

Young rave attendees set out to a southern Israel desert for two days of fun and music. What greeted them was a horror surprise attack that killed hundreds.

www.abc.net.au

'Billed as the "first time" the Brazilian psy-trance festival Universo Paralello was held in Israel, thousands of festival goers descended on the desert outside of Kibbutz Re'im for the Supernova event. '

''Tribe of Nova has since launched a database for those who went missing at the festival.

Foreign Minister Penny Wong was unable to ascertain if any Australians were involved at this stage.

Mr Moritz said the indiscriminate taking of hostages showed the attack was a global issue.

"It's more than an Israeli problem now, it's a world problem right now," he said.

"They are attacking the world, they're not just attacking Israel."

 

[Inthedetails]

Inside the Israeli festival of 'good news' where hundreds were murdered

Young rave attendees set out to a southern Israel desert for two days of fun and music. What greeted them was a horror surprise attack that killed hundreds.

www.abc.net.au

'Billed as the "first time" the Brazilian psy-trance festival Universo Paralello was held in Israel, thousands of festival goers descended on the desert outside of Kibbutz Re'im for the Supernova event. '

I hate to think this way, I really do, but I wonder if it was a set-up to access a large number of victims, young people whose safety is such a tender spot to families and the world at large?

I hope not. But this whole thing seems coordinated.

jmo

 

[whitelilac]

Associated Press
Mon, October 9, 2023, 10:18 AM PDT
BEIRUT (AP) — Hamas military spokesman says it will kill a civilian hostage any time Israel targets Gaza civilians without warning.

 

[Chimera]

Was this an annual event or a one-time/first-time festival at that location?

jmo

Idk.
It sounds like the music event wasn't widely publicized ?

The killers seemed to want (& they achieved, horrifically !) a high 'body count'.
Makes me wonder if they were using satellites or drones to watch the general area ; so they could hit a large gathering ?
Repulsive to kill young people who were gathering innocently for a bit of fun on THEIR own soil; not being a bother or threat to anyone else.
Omo.

 

[bestill]

I feel like the world has been walking on eggshells not to upset the terrorists, falsely believing that if it was quiet for a moment, everything was safe. jmo

True! Even Blinken and Sullivan said the middle east was quieter than it had been in 20 years - just a few days ago.

"QUESTION: It does seem like this very coordinated attack came out of nowhere. I want our viewers to listen to what the U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said just nine days ago.

NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR SULLIVAN: The Middle East region is quieter today than it has been in two decades. Now, challenges remain: Iran’s nuclear weapons program, the tensions between Israelis and Palestinians. But the amount of time that I have to spend on crisis and conflict in the Middle East today compared to any of my predecessors going back to 9/11 is significantly reduced.

QUESTION: Well, that obviously has changed dramatically, not just for Jake Sullivan but for all of you. And this isn’t specifically about anything that Jake missed, but more broadly, about the intelligence failure not just by the Israelis but the U.S. What can you say about that?

SECRETARY BLINKEN: Well, two things, Dana. First, what Jake Sullivan said was right. If you look at the relationship among countries in the Middle East, you saw – with a lot of work by the United States – countries coming together, the region integrating, hostilities diminishing. And we’ve been very engaged in pursuing, for example, normalization between Israel and its neighbors, building on what’s already been done, including with Saudi Arabia. And other conflicts, like the conflict in Yemen where we’ve had a truce now for almost two years, have made a huge difference.

What happened over the last 24 hours doesn’t go to state-to-state conflict, where Jake is exactly right – it’s diminished. This goes to a terrorist attack by a terrorist organization.

At the same time, we have been intensely focused on tensions between Israelis and Palestinians. That’s why we brought them together in Sharm el-Sheikh, in Aqaba, to try to get both sides not to engage in acts that could precipitate hostilities, violence. And that, unfortunately, does not include Hamas because it’s a terrorist organization. And it took action, as we’ve seen over the last 24 hours, that has had a terrible impact, but that’s what was going on.

In terms of the intelligence, there’ll be plenty of time in days to come to look and see what anyone missed, what might have – what we could have done better. Right now, the focus is on helping Israel and making sure that it has what it needs to deal with this attack."

Secretary Antony J. Blinken With Dana Bash of CNN's State of the Union - United States Department of State

QUESTION: Joining me now is the U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Thank you so much for joining me; I really appreciate it. First, what can you tell us about what’s going on on the ground in Israel and in Gaza right now, and how worried are you about how rapidly and how widely this […]

www.state.gov

 

[Charlot123]

EU backtracks on previous suspension of Palestinian development aid

Several member states had rejected a move by European Commission to put 691 million euros ($728m) of aid under review.

www.aljazeera.com

Europe suspends aid payment to Palestinians after Hamas attack

 

[bestill]

And there it is.

I am dumbfounded that the US would give Iran anything.

My American friends, did you know that this had occurred?

Just sitting here wondering how much of my hard earned money has filtered down to Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah over the years via Iran.

This is a huge wake up call for all of us.

MOO

Some of us have been trying to discuss it on WS since this started. So, yes, we knew about it. The money that is going to be released to Iran is money frozen in a bank that supposedly belongs to them. I have little doubt that our tax paying dollars has filtered down to those that want us all dead along with Israelites. They mock us.

 

[Sundog]

Associated Press
Mon, October 9, 2023, 10:18 AM PDT
BEIRUT (AP) — Hamas military spokesman says it will kill a civilian hostage any time Israel targets Gaza civilians without warning.

Israel is not targeting Gaza civilians, they are targeting Hamas.
Not that it matters to the terrorists. They will continue their threats and terrorism. That's what terrorists do.

 

[MassGuy]

Some of us have been trying to discuss it on WS since this started. So, yes, we knew about it. The money that is going to be released to Iran is money frozen in a bank that supposedly belongs to them. I have little doubt that our tax paying dollars has filtered down to those that want us all dead along with Israelites. They mock us.

Yeah. The argument isn’t that that money was specifically used to fund this, it’s that it allowed them to repurpose money that would have otherwise gone towards things like food.

 

[Inthedetails]

U.S. veterans are heading out on a rescue mission:

"At least nine Americans have been killed and others are still missing after Hamas’ surprise weekend attack on Israel, the State Department said Monday — as a team of US veterans is prepping to fly out to help rescue trapped citizens."

At least 9 Americans confirmed killed in Israel, as team of US vets preps rescue mission for missing

At least nine American have been killed and other US citizens are still missing after Hamas launched its surprise weekend attack on Israel, the State Department said Monday.

nypost.com

 

[JennieM]

Pro-Palestinian groups gathered outside the Israeli Embassy in London​

Nick Johnson
Reporting from Israeli Embassy in London

Copyright: Getty Images

Thousands of people have gathered outside the gates of the Israeli Embassy in West London.

Protests by pro-Palestinian groups here are nothing new, but this time, they’re happening against the backdrop of what many have described as one of Israel’s worst days in its history.

While speakers have taken to the stage accompanied by the all-too familiar chants, which jar with the magnitude of recent events, each have been at pains to point out that violence and intimidation are never the answer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67050350

 

[Leve]

Israel is not targeting Gaza civilians, they are targeting Hamas.
Not that it matters to the terrorists. They will continue their threats and terrorism. That's what terrorists do.

Unfortunately the terrorist hide behind the civilians. They said thousands of civilians are taking cover in school buildings, guaranteed a bunch of terrorists are right there with them. But will the Palestinians put them out? Not likely.