It Can't Happen Here - 2nd Edition - Answers In The Sand

[Sasquatch321]

You keep saying that Heinrich's tires were not a match. But official records show LE saying they were "consistent". There were no specific flaws in the tread that they could pick out that would make it a 100% match, but they were still consistent. Saying "they were not a match" is misleading, IMO.

I'm not following the rest of your "hello CNN" comment, care to expand on that?

Then you don't dip away from that and put the focus on a man with no record and a professional career. The damage has already been done now. According to the CNN transcripts Sanner in 2004 basically cleared heinrichs tire evidence for good. He dismissed a vehicle, everyone is now looking at DR who was home alone. Heinrich is a POI now simply because investigators were trying to make those tires match for 14 years. Prepare for a final loop back to DR.

 

[nmogren]

You keep saying that Heinrich's tires were not a match. But official records show LE saying they were "consistent". There were no specific flaws in the tread that they could pick out that would make it a 100% match, but they were still consistent. Saying "they were not a match" is misleading, IMO.

I'm not following the rest of your "hello CNN" comment, care to expand on that?

Thank you, THAT is what I don't get either.


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[Dogface]

Followed Jacobs case, not nearly as in depth as most of you here and just recently read this thread. What was it exactly in ELOC's book was the metaphorical smoking gun that seems to point to who exactly committed the crime? To be honest, this entire thread is a bit confusing to me(and I'm far from being a dense person), especially with the strangely worded comments and the not so subtle personal digs being tossed around.

 

[human]

It is not metaphorical. It is a long book so buying it would be the best course.

Short answer. He found the Peart notes which talked about Heinrich.

Anyone care to expand?

 

[ELOCsoul]

Followed Jacobs case, not nearly as in depth as most of you here and just recently read this thread. What was it exactly in ELOC's book was the metaphorical smoking gun that seems to point to who exactly committed the crime? To be honest, this entire thread is a bit confusing to me(and I'm far from being a dense person), especially with the strangely worded comments and the not so subtle personal digs being tossed around.

I'm not sure I would call anything in the book a "smoking gun," but there were a number of key items in the book that were being ignored by media all the way up until the point Danny Heinrich was arrested, and all turned out to be highly accurate after Heinrich's arrest in October 2015 (the original book was published in April 2015). Here are a few:

1. Per Al Garber's book, "Striving To Be The Best," a man had been arrested in Jared's case in 1990. Fibers from the back of the man's car were consistent with fibers from Jared's snow pants that he was wearing on the night of his abduction. That had never been mentioned in any media account, and not even Jared had been aware of this until it was found in the book and pointed out to him.

2. While a blogger and some of the Twin Cities media were extensively promoting the "Duane Hart did it" campaign, the book points out that Duane Hart had an alibi for the night (which was actually one of the child victims he was convicted of assaulting) Jacob Wetterling was taken. That alibi (although it was DH's word only) had never been known before, to anyone other than LE.

3. The book points out that Duane Hart appeared to be helping investigators identify Jacob's and Jared's abductor, and that he specifically named Danny Heinrich as Jared's abductor, and went on to describe Danny Heinrich and his car exactly as Jared had described. That information originated from February 1990, and had never been seen by the media or anyone outside of Stearns County investigators at the time.

4. The book notes that Dan Rassier did indeed report seeing a car in his driveway at the time of the abduction, and was quoted in the St. Cloud Times in 10/24/89 edition.

5. The point was made that investigators had asked for the public's help in identifying many cars, seen days before and blocks away from the abduction scene - but that they did not seek help in finding the car that Dan Rassier saw that night.

6. The book suggested that if a car was involved in the abduction, that it was a 2-door car, that investigators were focused on rear tires of cars, and that the car had driven out of the driveway rather than backed out.

7. It was noted that investigators had gathered good tire impressions in the Rassier driveway because they were able to eliminate cars based on tire treads and sizes along the way.

8. Contrary to what was reported in some media, and a blog site, the book points out that the Paynesville cases were aggressively pursued by the Paynesville Police when they occurred, and that Wetterling investigators were aware of those cases from the beginning.

9. The book noted that the sole piece of evidence left behind in the Paynesville cases was a cap that the assailant wore. That cap was later tested for DNA and substantially matched up to Danny Heinrich's DNA.

10. It was pointed out that it seemed very unusual that Kevin's presence in the driveway on the night of the abduction explained away the car tracks and led investigators to conclude that Jacob was abducted on foot. The key reason for this is that Kevin never stopped the vehicle in the driveway, except at the very end by the road. This is key because there would have been stop and start tire marks adjacent to Jacob's last footprints. Additionally, Kevin never stepped outside of the car, and therefore his footprints would not exist in the print field.

11. The books suggested it was more likely that one of Duane Hart's victims was more likely to be the abductor than Duane Hart himself.

Incidentally, I have recently found a newspaper article from 1990 where the Kandiyohi district attorney, in the strongest language I have seen to date, said that Hart was likely not connected to the Wetterling abduction.

I'm not trying to brag here...just pointing out to you the key points from the original book that turned out to be true. Much of this had been presented to various media organizations and bloggers, but was ignored until after the arrest of Danny Heinrich.

By the way, Alison Feigh can tell everyone she wants that I'm not qualified to have researched the case or written the book. Really strikes me as odd that she claimed to not known about the book until January 2015, and attempted to block efforts to get some of this information publicized (none of this stuff is super-secret, really - it was just never put together in one place before, or fit together in a chronological order)

 

[Sasquatch321]

I'm not sure I would call anything in the book a "smoking gun," but there were a number of key items in the book that were being ignored by media all the way up until the point Danny Heinrich was arrested, and all turned out to be highly accurate after Heinrich's arrest in October 2015 (the original book was published in April 2015). Here are a few:

1. Per Al Garber's book, "Striving To Be The Best," a man had been arrested in Jared's case in 1990. Fibers from the back of the man's car were consistent with fibers from Jared's snow pants that he was wearing on the night of his abduction. That had never been mentioned in any media account, and not even Jared had been aware of this until it was found in the book and pointed out to him.

2. While a blogger and some of the Twin Cities media were extensively promoting the "Duane Hart did it" campaign, the book points out that Duane Hart had an alibi for the night (which was actually one of the child victims he was convicted of assaulting) Jacob Wetterling was taken. That alibi (although it was DH's word only) had never been known before, to anyone other than LE.

3. The book points out that Duane Hart appeared to be helping investigators identify Jacob's and Jared's abductor, and that he specifically named Danny Heinrich as Jared's abductor, and went on to describe Danny Heinrich and his car exactly as Jared had described. That information originated from February 1990, and had never been seen by the media or anyone outside of Stearns County investigators at the time.

4. The book notes that Dan Rassier did indeed report seeing a car in his driveway at the time of the abduction, and was quoted in the St. Cloud Times in 10/24/89 edition.

5. The point was made that investigators had asked for the public's help in identifying many cars, seen days before and blocks away from the abduction scene - but that they did not seek help in finding the car that Dan Rassier saw that night.

6. The book suggested that if a car was involved in the abduction, that it was a 2-door car, that investigators were focused on rear tires of cars, and that the car had driven out of the driveway rather than backed out.

7. It was noted that investigators had gathered good tire impressions in the Rassier driveway because they were able to eliminate cars based on tire treads and sizes along the way.

8. Contrary to what was reported in some media, and a blog site, the book points out that the Paynesville cases were aggressively pursued by the Paynesville Police when they occurred, and that Wetterling investigators were aware of those cases from the beginning.

9. The book noted that the sole piece of evidence left behind in the Paynesville cases was a cap that the assailant wore. That cap was later tested for DNA and substantially matched up to Danny Heinrich's DNA.

10. It was pointed out that it seemed very unusual that Kevin's presence in the driveway on the night of the abduction explained away the car tracks and led investigators to conclude that Jacob was abducted on foot. The key reason for this is that Kevin never stopped the vehicle in the driveway, except at the very end by the road. This is key because there would have been stop and start tire marks adjacent to Jacob's last footprints. Additionally, Kevin never stepped outside of the car, and therefore his footprints would not exist in the print field.

11. The books suggested it was more likely that one of Duane Hart's victims was more likely to be the abductor than Duane Hart himself.

Incidentally, I have recently found a newspaper article from 1990 where the Kandiyohi district attorney, in the strongest language I have seen to date, said that Hart was likely not connected to the Wetterling abduction.

I'm not trying to brag here...just pointing out to you the key points from the original book that turned out to be true. Much of this had been presented to various media organizations and bloggers, but was ignored until after the arrest of Danny Heinrich.

By the way, Alison Feigh can tell everyone she wants that I'm not qualified to have researched the case or written the book. Really strikes me as odd that she claimed to not known about the book until January 2015, and attempted to block efforts to get some of this information publicized (none of this stuff is super-secret, really - it was just never put together in one place before, or fit together in a chronological order)

Just to further clarify number 4, DR says he did see a car at the time of the abduction but did not discuss them until two investigators came to his work the next day. He arrived home after work that day and gave the info of the cars to a st cloud times reporter.

The ultimate importance of this is that DR skipped telling the 911 operator and Deputy Bechtold before going to sleep, then again skipped telling LE when he crossed the scene tape or drove around them in the ditch the next morning. LE then went to his work and figured out he may be a witness before DR did.

 

[ELOCsoul]

Just to further clarify number 4, DR says he did see a car at the time of the abduction but did not discuss them until two investigators came to his work the next day. He arrived home after work that day and gave the info of the cars to a st cloud times reporter.

Agreed - however, my point was that in about 2013 or so, when he started talking publicly about seeing the car, most of us didn't believe him, myself included. Then, when I found the 10/24/89 newspaper article, it proved that he was right all along about the car. Until then, all we had was his word for it.

 

[Dogface]

I'm not sure I would call anything in the book a "smoking gun," but there were a number of key items in the book that were being ignored by media all the way up until the point Danny Heinrich was arrested, and all turned out to be highly accurate after Heinrich's arrest in October 2015 (the original book was published in April 2015). Here are a few:

1. Per Al Garber's book, "Striving To Be The Best," a man had been arrested in Jared's case in 1990. Fibers from the back of the man's car were consistent with fibers from Jared's snow pants that he was wearing on the night of his abduction. That had never been mentioned in any media account, and not even Jared had been aware of this until it was found in the book and pointed out to him.

2. While a blogger and some of the Twin Cities media were extensively promoting the "Duane Hart did it" campaign, the book points out that Duane Hart had an alibi for the night (which was actually one of the child victims he was convicted of assaulting) Jacob Wetterling was taken. That alibi (although it was DH's word only) had never been known before, to anyone other than LE.

3. The book points out that Duane Hart appeared to be helping investigators identify Jacob's and Jared's abductor, and that he specifically named Danny Heinrich as Jared's abductor, and went on to describe Danny Heinrich and his car exactly as Jared had described. That information originated from February 1990, and had never been seen by the media or anyone outside of Stearns County investigators at the time.

4. The book notes that Dan Rassier did indeed report seeing a car in his driveway at the time of the abduction, and was quoted in the St. Cloud Times in 10/24/89 edition.

5. The point was made that investigators had asked for the public's help in identifying many cars, seen days before and blocks away from the abduction scene - but that they did not seek help in finding the car that Dan Rassier saw that night.

6. The book suggested that if a car was involved in the abduction, that it was a 2-door car, that investigators were focused on rear tires of cars, and that the car had driven out of the driveway rather than backed out.

7. It was noted that investigators had gathered good tire impressions in the Rassier driveway because they were able to eliminate cars based on tire treads and sizes along the way.

8. Contrary to what was reported in some media, and a blog site, the book points out that the Paynesville cases were aggressively pursued by the Paynesville Police when they occurred, and that Wetterling investigators were aware of those cases from the beginning.

9. The book noted that the sole piece of evidence left behind in the Paynesville cases was a cap that the assailant wore. That cap was later tested for DNA and substantially matched up to Danny Heinrich's DNA.

10. It was pointed out that it seemed very unusual that Kevin's presence in the driveway on the night of the abduction explained away the car tracks and led investigators to conclude that Jacob was abducted on foot. The key reason for this is that Kevin never stopped the vehicle in the driveway, except at the very end by the road. This is key because there would have been stop and start tire marks adjacent to Jacob's last footprints. Additionally, Kevin never stepped outside of the car, and therefore his footprints would not exist in the print field.

11. The books suggested it was more likely that one of Duane Hart's victims was more likely to be the abductor than Duane Hart himself.

Incidentally, I have recently found a newspaper article from 1990 where the Kandiyohi district attorney, in the strongest language I have seen to date, said that Hart was likely not connected to the Wetterling abduction.

I'm not trying to brag here...just pointing out to you the key points from the original book that turned out to be true. Much of this had been presented to various media organizations and bloggers, but was ignored until after the arrest of Danny Heinrich.

By the way, Alison Feigh can tell everyone she wants that I'm not qualified to have researched the case or written the book. Really strikes me as odd that she claimed to not known about the book until January 2015, and attempted to block efforts to get some of this information publicized (none of this stuff is super-secret, really - it was just never put together in one place before, or fit together in a chronological order)

Couldn't easily snip for brevity, but thank you so much for laying this out for me. I'm currently on a personal challenge to read a book a week, so I will order this shortly and give it a read. Thank you also for your efforts in connecting dots in this case. Personally I think anyone with good sense and a good heart is qualified to investigate matters such as this because it simply takes the right eyes looking at the right things to bring something pertinent to the surface.

 

[ELOCsoul]

Couldn't easily snip for brevity, but thank you so much for laying this out for me. I'm currently on a personal challenge to read a book a week, so I will order this shortly and give it a read. Thank you also for your efforts in connecting dots in this case. Personally I think anyone with good sense and a good heart is qualified to investigate matters such as this because it simply takes the right eyes looking at the right things to bring something pertinent to the surface.

Thank you for the kind words! The 2nd edition, "Answers In The Sand," includes all the material from the original book, plus 5 additional chapters and an extensive Appendix. The new stuff picks up on page 269.

Profits from the 2nd edition are being donated to two organizations in Paynesville, MN.

 

[human]

I have been searching online and I cannot find any copies of the letter DR sent to 14 different people/ agencies.

Does anyone have a link? I only have some summaries that don't say much

 

[Sasquatch321]

I have been searching online and I cannot find any copies of the letter DR sent to 14 different people/ agencies.

Does anyone have a link? I only have some summaries that don't say much

If you are innocent and 5 years later LE still has you in the spotlight, there has to come a time that getting a real civil rights lawyer and challenging their stance might be best for everyone. They ignored his letter.

We may have a case of a person who doesn't believe in spending money to get this done. Maybe someone can convince him to along the lines that his attorneys fees will be built up from donations from people like you and me. I can donate 25 dollars.

 

[human]

If you are innocent and 5 years later LE still has you in the spotlight, there has to come a time that getting a real civil rights lawyer and challenging their stance might be best for everyone. They ignored his letter.

Do you know where to access the letter so it can be read?

 

[shergal]

I have been searching online and I cannot find any copies of the letter DR sent to 14 different people/ agencies.

Does anyone have a link? I only have some summaries that don't say much

I recall seeing it online a long time ago. I'll look around tomorrow and see if I can find it again.

 

[papashango]

I can promise you this. He's not going to work with you on anything. Especially considering you stalked him and were shaking when you saw him. You said as much in an earlier post.

If you are innocent and 5 years later LE still has you in the spotlight, there has to come a time that getting a real civil rights lawyer and challenging their stance might be best for everyone. They ignored his letter.

We may have a case of a person who doesn't believe in spending money to get this done. Maybe someone can convince him to along the lines that his attorneys fees will be built up from donations from people like you and me. I can donate 25 dollars.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I can promise you this. He's not going to work with you on anything. Especially considering you stalked him and were shaking when you saw him. You said as much in an earlier post.

I can remember that day like the back of my hand. I went to the site for the third and final time to see what Matthew Feeney seen. Then DR came down the driveway on a ten speed bike and my truck and him basically met at the site of the abduction. I did not stop to harass or bother him, I drove around him slowly and nicely as he failed to acknowledge my vehicle. Instead he just stared straight ahead with an ear to ear grin on his face. This one is LE's job and noone elses.

 

[human]

It seems the letter was never on the net? So how did people who saw it get access?

 

[shergal]

It seems the letter was never on the net? So how did people who saw it get access?

Just guessing, maybe DR gave it to them? I think we have seen most of the interesting parts in excerpts anyway.

 

[ELOCsoul]

Excerpts from original book that referenced Heinrich, although not by name:

Hart told the investigator that he had alibi for the night that Jacob was kidnapped, that he had been forty-five miles away from St. Joseph, at Mud Lake, west of New London. He said he was with one of his juvenile victims at the lake that night.

The investigative notes seem to indicate that Hart was attempting to help investigators narrow the search for the man responsible for Jared’s assault and Jacob's abduction.

When Hart was shown several sketches of possible suspects in both cases, he identified a handful of men as possible, but suggested one man in particular that he thought matched the de-scription and sketch of the man in Jared’s case in Cold Spring. Hart identified that particular individual because the man often wore military type clothing, drove a dark blue car, had a hand held police scanner, and had a rough, raspy voice when excited. He noted that he heard the man had been arrested because he owned a fairly new blue car. Each of those items was consistent with descriptions from Jared’s account of his abduction and assault.



The third and final suspect was a Paynesville area man that fit the description of the man that had assaulted twelve-year-old Jared in Cold Spring in January 1989. Investigators said the man had not yet been cleared but was not a top suspect in Jacob's case. The warrants indicated the man’s home was searched in January 1990. One paragraph in the search warrant was blacked out without explanation. Investigators have never revealed the reasons why a portion of the warrant had been blacked out.



Meanwhile, a suspect in the January 13, 1989, abduction and assault case in Cold Spring was identified. The FBI conducted surveillance on the man for weeks, and detectives located the car that the man owned at the time of that assault. The FBI lab determined that fibers found in the back seat of the car were similar to fibers from Jared’s jacket. According to Al Garber’s book, Striving To Be The Best, the man had been arrested for questioning, although there was disagreement between the FBI, BCA, and Stearns County. FBI profilers suggested a specific interrogation environment to prepare for the suspect’s interview. Special lights and a flag were brought in, and the furniture was arranged in a particular way. FBI Agent, Steve Gilkerson, was selected to interview the suspect and was given a script of specific questions to ask. The suspect requested a lawyer upon questioning, and the county district attorney dropped the charges. Stearns County and the BCA were upset with the FBI for the handling of this suspect.

 

[human]

After reading the cruel things Hart did , it seems hard to imagine he was so anxious to bust Heinrich. But then again, it would get LE off of him,in terms of Jared and Jacob.

I believe Hart molested Heinrich, Did Hart live with the brother or did he live with D Heinrich as well?

They must have kept in some kind of contact if Hart knew Heinrich had been arrested because Heinrich had a shiny blue car.

 

[dexter75]

An excerpt from 'Answers In The Sand'...

In 2012, Rassier made headlines again when he told the Associated Press that he had written and mailed a five-page letter to fourteen different investigative and state agencies. In the letter, Rassier complained about how he had been treated by law enforcement for the past two years. He claimed that his civil rights had been violated and that authorities had abused their power in naming him as a person of interest in Jacob Wetterling's kidnapping.

In the letter, Rassier wrote: “Is it considered legal for law enforcement to give the public the perception I am guilty of something when I'm not? To destroy our family's name the way they did because they had a 'hunch' is, in itself, a serious crime. Nothing can make it right now. The damage has been done. But to leave the whole thing open to speculation and open to the public's imagination is just wrong!”

In his letter, Rassier reiterated that investigators refused to listen to details he offered regarding what he had witnessed on October 22, 1989. He also complained that the property that investigators had taken from his family farm in June 2010 had not been returned to him.

Rassier singled out several Stearns County officials for their role in the case. He accused Stearns County Attorney Janelle Kendall of ignoring his pleas to investigate wrongdoings he alleged were committed against he and his family at the hand of the Sheriff’s Department. He said she took his complaints and took them straight to the Sheriff.

He criticized Judge Vicki Landwehr for placing “100% trust in law enforcement,” claiming that she made no attempt to sort out the out of context information presented by the Stearns County Sheriff’s department in their warrant application.

Rassier claimed in his letter that Sheriff Sanner leaked information about him to the press in 2004, as investigators were changing their theory of Jacob’s abductor from using a vehicle to being on foot. He further claimed that during the July 1, 2010 search of his family’s property, that Sanner twice chided Rassier, saying, “This is what happens when you talk.”

Regarding Stearns County Captain Pam Jensen, Rassier cited examples of why he didn’t trust her. His letter listed several concerns that happened under Jensen’s watch, including the physical assault of his mother and allowing Dan to handle weapons during the search of his farm.
Rassier’s harshest words were for Minnesota BCA Agent Ken McDonald. He said that McDonald twisted Rassier’s comments out of context and used “select ideas” to solve the crime. He said that McDonald pulled his elderly mother off her chair and dragged her to the floor before finally pushing her out of the house. Rassier claimed that his mother’s left arm was severely bruised for a week.

FBI Agent Shane Ball was the lone investigator that Rassier had kind things to say about. He said that Ball was the only investigator that give him his card and talked with him. Ball’s apparent willingness to listen to Rassier may have foreshadowed things to come in the future of the investigation.

Every time I read about the way LE manhandled DR'S elderly mother, ( allegedly ) I instantly fill with rage & disgust! I have nothing but love & admiration for the elderly🤗❤ Always have🤗 Seems to me, Heinrich is still to this day, receiving more respect than DR & his family ever have.


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