It's Christmas once again at Wal-Mart

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  • #81
I agree with you!
 
  • #82
Ntegrity said:
Why would you come on this forum and belittle someone's faith? You're certainly free to think what you want, but to call believer's crazy is really rude.
I think what Narla said was she thinks the idea of virgin birth is crazy to her.
 
  • #83
And that idea is central to Christian theology, so why would she mock something like that? It's just plain rude.
 
  • #84
Everyone's beliefs are crazy to someone else - virgin birth, evolving from a monkey, a blue diety - any of it can seem crazy. I think the trick is not saying so - while remembering that what you believe may seem completely crazy to another, completely reasonable person.
 
  • #85
Details said:
Everyone's beliefs are crazy to someone else - virgin birth, evolving from a monkey, a blue diety - any of it can seem crazy. I think the trick is not saying so - while remembering that what you believe may seem completely crazy to another, completely reasonable person.
That's very true, Details. Good point.
 
  • #86
Exactly, Details. We're talking about the need to be sensitive to other people's feelings and beliefs. Right?
 
  • #87
Ntegrity said:
And that idea is central to Christian theology, so why would she mock something like that? It's just plain rude.
Narla calls it like she sees it. Not everyone buys the virgin birth. Personally, I am not a Christian, but we have miraculous birth in my tradtion too, so I have no problem with it.

People would likely call many of the beliefs in my tradition crazy too and I do not consider that rude. Ignorant maybe lol.
 
  • #88
windovervocalcords said:
Narla calls it like she sees it. Not everyone buys the virgin birth. Personally, I am not a Christian, but we have miraculous birth in my tradtion too, so I have no problem with it.

People would likely call many of the beliefs in my tradition crazy too and I do not consider that rude.
Yet you consider it rude that your friend gets emails about Christmas! I don't understand why one's okay, but the other isn't. You want sensitivity from Christians but insensitivity from nonbelievers is fine with you. You can't have it both ways.
 
  • #89
I don't see why you are only jumping on Narla, and not the person who said Buddha is a make-shift God.

Why is one ok, and not the other?
 
  • #90
Ntegrity said:
Yet you consider it rude that your friend gets emails about Christmas! I don't understand why one's okay, but the other isn't. You want sensitivity from Christians but insensitivity from nonbelievers is fine with you. You can't have it both ways.
I don't understand your statement. I don't expect any sensitivity or kindness from Christians. Nor do I expect it from anyone else.

I do expect my co-workers to not shove their Christmas practice down my co-workers throat when she has been telling them for ten years to leave her alone due to her religious beliefs as a Christian that Christmas is a pagan holiday.
 
  • #91
windovervocalcords said:
Narla calls it like she sees it. Not everyone buys the virgin birth. Personally, I am not a Christian, but we have miraculous birth in my tradtion too, so I have no problem with it.

People would likely call many of the beliefs in my tradition crazy too and I do not consider that rude. Ignorant maybe lol.
I believe in God, but not the Bible, and believe me... I've been called waaaay worse things than crazy!!

But it looks like Narla deleted her post. I guess we've all posted in the heat of the moment, then deleted. I know I have.
 
  • #92
IrishMist said:
I believe in God, but not the Bible, and believe me... I've been called waaaay worse things than crazy!!

But it looks like Narla deleted her post. I guess we've all posted in the heat of the moment, then deleted. I know I have.
No Buddhist complained about the "Buddha is a make shift god" post. What would have happened if one did? Ridicule most likely.

The tyranny of the majority.

The Buddha is a makeshift god is laughable. Ask any Buddhist, Buddha is not a god.
 
  • #93
IrishMist said:
I don't see why you are only jumping on Narla, and not the person who said Buddha is a make-shift God.

Why is one ok, and not the other?
Because all of this "Merry Christmas" stuff has nothing to do with celebrating a religious holiday. It really has to do with prejudice against others' beliefs.
That's how I see it or else there wouldn't be a problem with wishing people a Happy Holiday and celebrating our stuff privately as we see fit.
 
  • #94
csds703 said:
Because all of this "Merry Christmas" stuff has nothing to do with celebrating a religious holiday. It really has to do with prejudice against others' beliefs.
That's how I see it or else there wouldn't be a problem with wishing people a Happy Holiday and celebrating our stuff privately as we see fit.
Bingo.
 
  • #95
csds703 said:
Because all of this "Merry Christmas" stuff has nothing to do with celebrating a religious holiday. It really has to do with prejudice against others' beliefs.
That's how I see it or else there wouldn't be a problem with wishing people a Happy Holiday and celebrating our stuff privately as we see fit.
Maybe you are right, Csds. What really sickens ME about all of this "war on Christmas" and "Hooray! WalMart's calling it Christmas again!!" is the fact that in my opinion, it's pandering on WalMart's part. Nothing more, nothing less.

The materialism, the greed, the "one big commercial nightmare" that X-mas has become is repugnant to me.
 
  • #96
Actually I think Walmart was pandering when they stopped calling it Christmas.
 
  • #97
IrishMist said:
Maybe you are right, Csds. What really sickens ME about all of this "war on Christmas" and "Hooray! WalMart's calling it Christmas again!!" is the fact that in my opinion, it's pandering on WalMart's part. Nothing more, nothing less.

The materialism, the greed, the "one big commercial nightmare" that X-mas has become is repugnant to me.
I would agree. I think it's ridiculous when I hear people discussing how much they spend and how they try to compete to put more and more under the tree while some people are literally starving. I do not have any Christian friends who celebrate in a religious way. It's all about the tree and the gifts.
 
  • #98
tybee204 said:
Actually I think Walmart was pandering when they stopped calling it Christmas.
Really? How come?
I'm asking seriously, not being smart.
 
  • #99
Im not a Christian nor am I offended by Merry Christmas or how anyone celebrates it, markets it or shouts it from the roof top. it dosent impact my life in anyway. I put up a tree, gather the family and enjoy each other. It brings out the best and the worst in people and has been and likely will forever be part of the human experience.
 
  • #100
IrishMist said:
Really? How come?
I'm asking seriously, not being smart.

because an interest group whined loud enough about it and Walmart pandered to their demands and lost customers. They are more dependent on seasonal profit this year. Its about the bottem line. Whats best for Walmart
 
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