Janet's case coming up on ABC Primetime Crime

[Boyz_Mum]

Boyz I saw the same thing, but it's not canceled on Facebook and tearsforjanet.com and they I heard it's part got a small Dugard segment and the show is mostly about Janet's case.

Thanks terminatrixator, I was able to watch most of the show about Janet's case. (I'll have to watch again online.) When I saw the cable listing, I didn't know if the show was moved, thanks for your information to let us know it wasn't.

 

[Jess]

I noticed Raven wearing the ribbons from Janet's Vigil on the NCwanted interview when HE NEVER showed up !

 

[indicat]

I had'nt heard of this case until I happened to watch Primetime last night. Thought I would log on and read the thread. What an awesome job terminatrixator!! Your posts have been very helpful in putting things all together. After the show I was left feeling like what now?? I cant believe he has custody of little Kaiden, I worry terribly for him!

 

[terminatrixator]

I still can't view the show online at ABC.

I got a message from someone who said there's some serious screwed up nasty stuff posted in ABC's comments on the show, but I can't seem to get to the comments either.

Is anyone else having problem viewing the show on ABC or the comments regarding the airing of this show?

:banghead:

 

[L L & S]

I haven't spent a lot of time on the ABC site today. Trix, I don't know why you can't view the video or the comments. Some of the comments are obviously dragging Vanessa down. That tells me the show struck a nerve -- probably with Raven himself. So be careful when you do get in over there. It's not pretty. There's no reason to be saying things like that about Vanessa. I stand behind her 100%.

I do know however that a lot of different news websites and blogs have picked up on the story.

Pakistan News picked up the story.

News Around the World picked it up. News Around The World

Kashmire Sentinel Link

Another Global News site Link

These are just a few of the places I found on my Google Alerts on Janet and Raven Abaroa. There are also quite a few blogs that picked up the story and are encouraging comments. I am seeing people talk about this case now, new people. This is great. When you Google Raven Abaroa or Janet Christiansen WebSleuths is still the first links that come up. Awesome, because the whole story is right here for the world to read.

I also got quite a few alerts that people are going to Tears For Janet (which I saw on the ABC show that Vanessa was looking at it) and signed the guest book for Janet's family. That made me very happy. The Christiansen's are an amazing, loving, Christian family. Are they perfect? Probably not, but are they deserving of our time and efforts? Absolutely!! In my heart, they are family. I honor them today for the courage and unity the girls showed in speaking out. It wasn't an easy task.

PLEASE NOTE: IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT A COUPLE OF THE SITES THAT ARE CARRYING JANET'S STORY MIGHT HAVE VIRUSES CONNECTED TO THEM. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE IS UP-TO-DATE AND CLICK WITH CAUTION. I DON'T THINK THE ABOVE LINKS ARE INFECTED, BUT DON'T TAKE A CHANCE IF YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE ISN'T TOP OF THE LINE. I'M SORRY ABOUT THIS.

 

[L L & S]

I noticed Raven wearing the ribbons from Janet's Vigil on the NCwanted interview when HE NEVER showed up !

That was video from the NC Wanted interview that Raven did. Not only did he not show up for the vigil, he didn't acknowledge it, he didn't support it and he was invited to come, with plenty of time to make arrangements. Then he puts on the ribbon to try to fool people into thinking it means something to him while he sat there and literally made crap up for that interview.

I say, let him pull stunts like that. I was there. He didn't even send a message to be read from him. He could have, at the very least, sent a note or flowers or something if he wanted to portray that he was involved. All he ever said was that he didn't have time to make the necessary arrangements to get there. That is a load of poopy. IMO, the only reason he wore the ribbon during the NC Wanted interview was to make people who didn't know the truth think that he was supportive and involved. He was NOT!

ETA: People as far away as Canada and Ireland were involved in making this happen. I am from California and there were half a dozen from here that helped. I won't go into all of the different locations but if people from all over the world could pitch in and sew ribbons and beads and make candles and buy flowers and donate printing and postage to get it all to Durham, imo the bird could have made some kind of effort.

Ok, sorry, end of rant.

 

[terminatrixator]

I was wondering why the sisters didn't wear the ribbons on the ABC show, I could only imagine Raven tainting and sullying the idea behind the ribbons could be a contributing factor.

 

[L L & S]

WARNING

I just found out from one of my friends that some of the news links that I found are carrying viruses. I use Avast software and it is really good at warning me about viruses. I went back and looked again and she was right I got two virus alerts.

I'm sorry if my links cause anyone any problems. Please make sure your antivirus programs are always updated.

 

[terminatrixator]

LALate seems to be an attack site.

 

[terminatrixator]

LL&S I cleared my monkey's like you told me to and I still can't see the stuff on ABC.

 

[L L & S]

Your computer is broken or dumb or both. J/K



I bet you have something set wrong in your browser. Can you got to like NC Wanted and see the video and stuff there? I'm so not any good at this stuff. If you can't watch any video then I'd check your browser settings. If you can't see the video on just that site I would check my security settings and see if you have that site blocked in some way.

 

[terminatrixator]

I can see NCWanted no problem. I'll have someone in IT check tomorrow.

 

[BirdHunter]

I was wondering why the sisters didn't wear the ribbons on the ABC show, I could only imagine Raven tainting and sullying the idea behind the ribbons could be a contributing factor.

I am very close to some of Janet's sisters and I was told that Raven was the reason. The fact that he wore it on his NC Wanted interview to make it appear that he was at the vigil for his wife made them SICK! They said they did not want to appear to align with him in anyway.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I still can't view the show online at ABC.

I got a message from someone who said there's some serious screwed up nasty stuff posted in ABC's comments on the show, but I can't seem to get to the comments either.

Is anyone else having problem viewing the show on ABC or the comments regarding the airing of this show?

:banghead:

I'm not having a problem reading at the site, the comments are also showing (81 comments). http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/ the link to the page I viewed.

When I go over to the available Primetime episodes, it doesn't appear that Janet's is there. I'm not sure, but the last show I looked for there, seemed to take about 2 days to show up online. If you find it sooner, let me know, please.

ETA: I'm using the ABC website for reference. (I'm not getting any virus warnings.)

 

[thefragile7393]

I'm still wondering, if the Durham police want to question him....can't they go question him with a lawyer present? Or is it because he refuses to cooperate and since there's no concrete evidence they can't haul him in legally?

 

[terminatrixator]

Law Enforcement must always receive cooperation outside their jurisdiction when it comes to interviewing witnesses, poi's, suspects. All jurisdiction rules where the interview will be held is applied. Each, city, state, county and country has their own rules and even a slight deviation of these rules could cause issues on appeal. Of course the interviewer must give the interviewee a Miranda Warning.

Whether or not Raven waives his Miranda rights is another question. If he doesn't waive his rights, they must wait for his attorney to be present. I've worked for defense attorney's in the past and Raven will be told not to answer any question.

Raven went to the Police Department the night of the murder he was out of there by about 5:00 and said he would be back for a polygraph in the morning.

After 4+ years of seeing Raven crying and hearing the 911 tape I can pretty much imagine that night he blubbered so much he was not easily understood, he had moments of anger and moments of steely silence.

He tells Vanessa he's mad, so very mad, not sad, not upset, not heartbroken, he's mad. This is on their honeymoon.

I thought I read that Raven lawyered up first thing in the morning after he contacted Janet's family to say Janet died, Janet committed suicide. If that was 5:00 and he was to be back at the Police Station that morning he had to have lawyered up by 8/9:00am.

I don't know that this sociopath is going to waive his Miranda rights, and I don't know if they will be able to get anything off him.

I think Raven is good with controlled rage as most sociopaths are. He picks extreme sports to satisfy his needs and people tend to think of it as aggressiveness, but when he feel he can't control his rage in a public setting I believe he cries to release it.

These are my opinions of course :crazy:

 

[NCBanker]

I thought I read that Raven lawyered up first thing in the morning after he contacted Janet's family to say Janet died, Janet committed suicide. If that was 5:00 and he was to be back at the Police Station that morning he had to have lawyered up by 8/9:00am.


These are my opinions of course :crazy:

Raven had already retained Julian Mack, an attorney in Durham, to handle his embezzlement case. He simply contacted Mack as an existing client to obtain counsel in this significantly more serious matter.

 

[terminatrixator]

True that, if that's the case isn't Julian Mack still representing him?

 

[NCBanker]

True that, if that's the case isn't Julian Mack still representing him?

Not necessarily. Julian just happened to be Raven's attorney at that time. There's nothing to indicate that Mack has still been retained by Raven, and there's nothing to preclude Raven from using another attorney, should he EVER need one (hint, hint Durham PD).

I still can't believe they can't get him for violating his probation. The cycle shop would of course have to press charges, but if they did, and the evidence showed that Raven embezzled/stole during his two-year probation, he'd go to jail for sure. Wouldn't that be fitting?

 

[lauriej]

.."WOW!"

..don't check in here for a bit--------and all hell break's loose!!!!

..i was reading so quickly that i really must re-read------did see LL&S comment that "even canadians" were in on this story-----yep, we're really not that far away! and we care!

..i have to applaud term, SO ultra devoted to janet: the glue holding the story together for all this time-----------vanessa: having the guts to get away from raven and speak up, i just can't possibly find the words for all of the WS'ers that brought janet's story to where it is today.

..i had always considered myself "fairly new to WS", and now i see what a small few of dedicated people can truly do-----------i am so proud of all of you.

..websleuths----------ROCKS !!!!!