Japan: 9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami-Nuclear Reactor Status #5

[Quiche]

My understanding of what's happening is they are pumping less radioactive water from a waste treatment facility into the sea. Then they intend to fill up the waste treatment plant with the more radioactive water. FWIW

Exactly, but then what? There will as much radioactive water produced after they store the first batch. They have to keep cooling the reactors and pools-- this water is coming from tankers off shore-- equals, more water! jmo

 

[Peliman]

Exactly, but then what? There will as much radioactive water produced after they store the first batch. They have to keep cooling the reactors and pools-- this water is coming from tankers off shore-- equals, more water! jmo

Well let me think and I'll get back to ya! What did they do with it before?

 

[not_my_kids]

Well let me think and I'll get back to ya! What did they do with it before?

If I'm not mistaken, they stored it on site and then ran out of room.

 

[coastal]

If I'm not mistaken, they stored it on site and then ran out of room.

LOL! Thanks for that, not_my_kids. I needed a smile just now!
Thanks to you and ya'll, also, for the news and conversation lately. My RL friends and loved ones think I'm silly to still be worried about radiation in (and from) Japan, so you've been keeping me sane. Grounded, anyway. Sort of.

Mostly.

 

[Quiche]

Well let me think and I'll get back to ya! What did they do with it before?

I don't think the reactor vessel was cracked before, and of course, they didn't cool things off by fire hose. Shoot, Peli-- we'll just have to wait and see. :crazy:

 

[coastal]

http://www.sandiego6.com/news/local...o-Seafood-Nuclear/gOIQkg3BHE2Wm77EvOmk_A.cspx

>>>snip

Seafood Safe to Eat? San Diego Seafood Nuclear Fallout Concerns
Last Update: 12:13 pm (today)


...On Monday to make room for severely contaminated water, workers at the Fukushima Nuclear Plant had to release some 11,000 tons of radioactive water into the sea.

"It's a potentially dangerous situation with potential implication for food supplies that have been imported," said Luca Centurioni, Scripps Institution of Oceanography. He says Scientists have yet to determine the exact impact of the released water.

"We need to involve physicists, biologists and geologists so we really need to start studying." said Centurioni...

(article continues)

<<<snip

Ya think?

 

[Quiche]

Radioactive Fish and Birds: Dangers from Japan?

Quote: The Pacific currents running along the Japanese coast go north up the Asian coast before turning towards the Bering Sea, and on down through the Gulf of Alaska to the U.S. northwest coast.

and

...At least 404 species of waterbird are recorded in the Asia-Pacific region. Of these, 243 species, by virtue of their nature, undertake annual migrations...

http://motherjones.com/blue-marble/2011/04/radioactive-fish-and-birds-dangers-japan

 

[Daisyjane]

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/05_38.html

Plant radiation monitor says levels immeasurable

A radiation monitor at the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant says workers there are exposed to immeasurable levels of radiation. The monitor told NHK that no one can enter the plant's No. 1 through 3 reactor buildings because radiation levels are so high that monitoring devices have been rendered useless. He said even levels outside the buildings exceed 100 millisieverts in some places.Pools and streams of water contaminated by high-level radiation are being found throughout the facility. The monitor said he takes measurements as soon as he finds water, because he can't determine whether it's contaminated just by looking at it. He said he's very worried about the safety of workers there.

 

[Daisyjane]

Just off the news ticker: TEPCO: The release of of highly radioactive water into the sea has been stopped - Kyodo

http://breakingnews.com

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/83381.html

The outflow of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has stopped after the injection of a chemical agent, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday.In a bid to stem the leak, the utility, known as TEPCO, injected 1,500 liters of ''water glass,'' or sodium silicate, and another agent near a seaside pit where the highly radioactive water had been seeping through.

 

[hockeymom]

Just off the news ticker: TEPCO: The release of of highly radioactive water into the sea has been stopped - Kyodo

http://breakingnews.com

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/83381.html

The outflow of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has stopped after the injection of a chemical agent, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday.In a bid to stem the leak, the utility, known as TEPCO, injected 1,500 liters of ''water glass,'' or sodium silicate, and another agent near a seaside pit where the highly radioactive water had been seeping through.

Wow,this is great news! I hope it holds.

 

[Quiche]

Just off the news ticker: TEPCO: The release of of highly radioactive water into the sea has been stopped - Kyodo

http://breakingnews.com

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/83381.html

The outflow of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has stopped after the injection of a chemical agent, Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Wednesday.In a bid to stem the leak, the utility, known as TEPCO, injected 1,500 liters of ''water glass,'' or sodium silicate, and another agent near a seaside pit where the highly radioactive water had been seeping through.

Very good news! Thanks for bringing it over... now, I'm crossing my fingers.

 

[Peliman]

Very good news! Thanks for bringing it over... now, I'm crossing my fingers.

Excellent Hoorah! Now to the excess water. Sketchy here because if the cooling pumps were working there would be no need for fire hoses and external cooling. (speculation on my part)

My understanding is they need to clear the water from the tunnels and floors in order to start the disabled cooling pumps. If that's successful then the external fire cooling could be discontinued. (maybe, hopefully)

Needing to do some digging here to find out what happens to reactor core waste water from the cooling system when it's functioning. I have a friend who is a scuba diver and has done dives in a waste water location and has only mentioned the water was warm. LOL

Excellent news on the crack patch yesssssss. I can only imagine they are getting minimal water into the reactor cores.

 

[Quiche]

The Long Term Impact of Fukushima

Experts look ahead in a series of articles published today by the journal Nature.

Quote: But data from Japanese regulators and TEPCO suggest to some researchers that conditions inside the core could be far worse than a partial meltdown. Some believe that molten fuel may have flowed into the outer concrete containment vessel, whereas others suggest that nuclear chain reactions are still happening inside the fuel.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/energy/26613/

 

[Quiche]

EPA to raise limits for radiation exposure while Canada turns off fallout detectors

http://www.naturalnews.com/031963_radiation_exposure.html

A pretty thorough rant on how the US and Canada are handling the radiation crisis, he makes a number of good points. imo

 

[Quiche]

Newly released TEPCO data provides evidence of periodic chain reaction at Fukushima Unit 1
http://progressivelever.com/2011/04...-periodic-chain-reaction-at-fukushima-unit-1/

A scientific explanation for what may be happening at reactor #1. Pretty heady stuff, but I read through to the conclusion.

(bear in mind that since the "13" there was a blue flash over the plant last weekend)

 

[Quiche]

Fukushima: Dumping into the Sea

Quote: The water has a (relatively) low-level of radioactivity of about 100 times the regulatory limit. Though the dumping would normally be illegal under the 1972 "Convention on the Prevention of Marine Pollution by Dumping of Wastes and Other Matter," the Japanese government issued Tepco an exemption...

Read more: http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2011/04/05/fukushima-dumping-into-the-sea/#ixzz1IhLIJnTO

I wasn't sure I'd seen the explanation for "low-level"-- so, here it is.

 

[Peliman]

EPA to raise limits for radiation exposure while Canada turns off fallout detectors

http://www.naturalnews.com/031963_radiation_exposure.html

A pretty thorough rant on how the US and Canada are handling the radiation crisis, he makes a number of good points. imo

I don't see where Canada turned off it's fallout detectors? They have scaled back mobile monitoring but I only wish I could see a chart like Canada compiles for the US on their fixed site readings. They will post fixed site readings 3 times a week and monitor it daily.

In order to compare the actual daily values and account for normal fluctuations, the chart includes measured baseline values from 2010 (minimum, maximum and average over the entire year).

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/ed-ud/respond/nuclea/_data/surveil-eng.php

I don't in any way agree to countries adjusting their safety values for radiation and isotope safety levels. Take a peek at their advertising.

 

[Quiche]

I don't see where Canada turned off it's fallout detectors? They have scaled back mobile monitoring but I only wish I could see a chart like Canada compiles for the US on their fixed site readings. They will post fixed site readings 3 times a week and monitor it daily.

In order to compare the actual daily values and account for normal fluctuations, the chart includes measured baseline values from 2010 (minimum, maximum and average over the entire year).

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hc-ps/ed-ud/respond/nuclea/_data/surveil-eng.php

I don't in any way agree to countries adjusting their safety values for radiation and isotope safety levels. Take a peek at their advertising.

Huh, I guess he's got a bur in his b*tt. Thanks, Peli.

 

[not_my_kids]

I'm sure that this is here somewhere, but this is RadNet, our EPA's site for all things radiation, readings, monitoring, and general statements to the public.
http://epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-data-map.html

 

[hockeymom]

I did see and think I posted the link that Canada would not test their cows milk for radiation.