Japan: 9.0 Earthquake-Tsunami-Nuclear Reactor Status #5

[not_my_kids]

Everything at Fukushima is "partial"-- remember that? Nothing to be concerned about, stay calm. :banghead:

And whatever you do, DON'T WORRY!! (Sorry, I had to. )

 

[Peliman]

Turn down the lights
Turn down the bed
Turn down the voices running through your heads.

 

[Daisyjane]

And whatever you do, DON'T WORRY!! (Sorry, I had to. )

Just download the Pointer Sisters "Neutron Dance" and google recipes for radiofish.

 

[Daisyjane]

Confidential U.S. document reveals “new threats” at Fukushima:

Risk of explosions inside containment structures

“Semimolten” fuel rods and salt are “impeding the flow of fresh water meant to cool the nuclear cores” in ALL THREE REACTORS

The water flow in reactor No. 1 “is severely restricted and likely blocked“

Similar problems exist in No. 2 and No. 3, although the blockage is probably less severe

“There is likely no water level” inside the core of reactor No. 1

There is a possibility of “explosions inside the containment structures”

Read the NYTIMES article at

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/06/world/asia/06nuclear.html?_r=3&hp=&pagewanted=all#

 

[Quiche]

Fukushima Workers Aiming at Prevention

Quote: Technicians began pumping nitrogen into an area around one of the plant's six reactors at 1:31 a.m. Thursday (1631 Wednesday GMT; 12:31 p.m. Wednesday EDT) to counteract the hydrogen...

and

Now that the leak has stopped, the pooling could actually get worse because water that had been going into the ocean could back up onto the grounds of the complex.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2063623,00.html#ixzz1ImTjRvJp

 

[OneLove]

Warning: RANT

Soooo.... if, as TEPCO says, the highly radioactive water they just dumped was ONLY equivalent to 5 swimming pools, why in the name of humanity, did they not store it in FIVE SWIMMING POOLS or such containment vessels/tanks/ whatever all the world's resources could deliver until they could figure out what to with it rather than poisoning the world's seas forever?????

I agree with Japan's own fishermen: UNFORGIVABLE!

Not evacuating those in danger: UNFORGIVABLE!

Not having necessary provisions for those in shelters: UNFORGIVABLE!

Valuing PROFIT above human life: UNFORGIVABLE!

This unforgivable spewing of radioactive contamination at Fukishima is NOT isolated. It is happening to some degree everywhere there are nuclear reactors. If we do not DO SOMETHING to change things, our next generation will be calling US unforgivable, as well they should.

*emote: nuclear-level rage*

 

[Quiche]

Unmanned plane to be used to check radiation levels

Quote: The adoption of the remote-controlled T-Hawk aircraft, which is capable of hovering and moving vertically,...

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/83630.html

 

[not_my_kids]

Unmanned plane to be used to check radiation levels

Quote: The adoption of the remote-controlled T-Hawk aircraft, which is capable of hovering and moving vertically,...

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/83630.html

How carefully have they thought about this? I mean, really? Remember that the radiation levels inside the plant are so high that the detectors won't even work...if they are even three quarters that high above the plant, the remote control elements could fail and they end up with a really expensive, highly irradiated flaming ball of fire crashing into an already unstable nuclear facility...
Probably a bit alarmist of me, but I do think it's a possibility. If it's too high for humans to monitor it, it's likely too high to trust the electronics, either. JMO (as influenced heavily by Chernobyl and what they learned there about robotics and radiation).

 

[Quiche]

How carefully have they thought about this? I mean, really? Remember that the radiation levels inside the plant are so high that the detectors won't even work...if they are even three quarters that high above the plant, the remote control elements could fail and they end up with a really expensive, highly irradiated flaming ball of fire crashing into an already unstable nuclear facility...
Probably a bit alarmist of me, but I do think it's a possibility. If it's too high for humans to monitor it, it's likely too high to trust the electronics, either. JMO (as influenced heavily by Chernobyl and what they learned there about robotics and radiation).

I know the robotics have been vastly improved since Chernobyl-- the question is, can they endure these never conceived of levels? I'll cross my fingers for this one too... information is power, and this is the only way they're going to get a glimpse of what's happening in those reactors. mo

 

[Quiche]

WTH????!!!!

NEWS ADVISORY: Gov't mulls allowing nuke-crisis evacuees to return home briefly: Edano

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/

 

[OneLove]

Uh, whaa??? If they let those innocent, hurting, and obviously uneducated (about radioactive contamination) people back into
an area that will cause their eventual
suffering and death, I will be convinced once and for all that the government and the profit-motive business WANT as many people to die as possible at this point. After all, it would probably be cheaper in the long run if they would just go ahead and die before massive compensation must be made. Bet they've even already run the numbers on this. They know these people can never live in their homes again. I also worry about what very depressed, worn-down, and hopeless people might do if left alone in their homes with the remnants of their destroyed lives all around them. I just don't understand this.

Can someone paint this in a plausible, more positive light? I'm just so angry I can't see straight.

 

[essies]

Alarming Report From Nuclear Regulatory Commission On Japanese Nuclear Crisis and A Chef Speaks About Japanese Seafood-April 06, 2011 CNN
http://youtu.be/PYt85WB54PE

I wonder if Martha Stewart will come out with her own brand of docimeters in time for Christmas?:fence:

 

[dsntslp]

Return to WHAT houses?

And then return to the general population ...and have to be decontaminated before re-entry?

And how would they decontaminate their insides, from the...

Never mind, I give up.

Asprin.

G'night all.

Thank you for the updates, truly.

 

[not_my_kids]

Maybe they are hoping that there are items that people can retrieve from their homes that will help them survive without being dependent on the government resources only? Not that that makes much sense as everything in their homes is likely to be contaminated.

''Yes, it is true that we are considering it,'' the top government spokesman said at a news conference, when asked about the possibility of allowing the evacuees to make brief visits to their houses to collect valuables and necessities after nearly a month since the crisis at the nuclear complex began.

The quote above is from Quiche's link, and does say that they are considering how to keep the people safe while they grab those things...but once again, how do they go about decontaminating those items, and what are the chances that the poeple will be allowed to hold onto items or will they confiscate things like food in order to use it for everyone? (Sorry, not a lot of trust in the government right now.)

 

[dsntslp]

"Indefinitely" ???

Blow the things to kingdom come and be done with it, in my layman uneducated opinion.

Indefinitely?

Sounds like ICA ""absolutely".

I may never in my life hear those words the same...

 

[dsntslp]

If they can not retrieve dead bodies for burial because they are so contaminated they can not safely be buried in the ground, how on Gods green earth do they intend to let real live people remove anything from that area and take it back to where those people are living?
Where is the logic there?

I have obviously missed some major mitigating factor here.

 

[not_my_kids]

But Hiro Hasegawa, head of cooperate communications for Tepco, said they were just professionals doing their job.
"We should say we are proud of them," he said in an interview with the BBC. "Approximately 80-90% of them are Tepco employees.
"We are not forcing them to work. Some people call them heroes. We don't think so. They are doing what they should do as Tepco employees."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12983554

And now that my stomach has been turned by that particularly disgusting expression of corporate greed, (they aren't heroes...uh they're much more heroic than you, Mr. Spokesman) I'm gonna retire myself.

 

[dsntslp]

G'night NMK.

Hang in there.

How utterly depressing.

Not even the devastation but the way it is being handled.

Hugs

 

[Kat]

Does anyone know if snow and or rain are effected by radiation in the atmosphere? Does the snow or rain bring it down in higher concentrations? (not worried just curious) we've had a lot of rain here this week and I am thinking there was snow on one of the summits this week (can't remember which one they said though). TIA.

 

[Trino]

Does anyone know if snow and or rain are effected by radiation in the atmosphere? Does the snow or rain bring it down in higher concentrations? (not worried just curious) we've had a lot of rain here this week and I am thinking there was snow on one of the summits this week (can't remember which one they said though). TIA.

http://blogs.forbes.com/jeffmcmahon...-found-in-rain-in-california-idaho-minnesota/

I think this answers your question. In St. Paul???