Japan - Miyazawa family of 4 murdered, Setagaya, Tokyo, 30 Dec 2000 #4

[Incoherent]

@FacelessPodcast re: the adaptation, I think it has already taken place. Satoru and Kohei Takaba were also in attendance.

Re: shoes being Korean made, exactly. The killer Yasufuku in the Takaba case also had Korean made shoes and it had nothing to do with anything in the end, she had just picked them up from a department store.

I don’t know why I was expecting it anyway but also no further information from the TMPD on the DNA supposedly revealing the age of the killer to be in his 30’s. That was suddenly announced out of nowhere and has faded into the distance with zero clarification.

 

[FacelessPodcast]

I don’t know why I was expecting it anyway but also no further information from the TMPD on the DNA supposedly revealing the age of the killer to be in his 30’s. That was suddenly announced out of nowhere and has faded into the distance with zero clarification.

RSMB: Interesting, isn't it? Another year, another "nameless source," another nothing burger.

Of course, it's possible the TMPD do have this fantastical genetic age prediction in their hands. But then, what would be the reason for saying nothing about it? They have shown us their 3D models. They have published TV listings from the night in question in a desperate hope it will spark some tangential memory. They have told us they have travelled to China on the possibility that the handkerchief was held a certain way in the manner of local fish factory workers. So on, and so on, and so on. Yet supposedly, they know the killer's age and they stay tight-lipped?

And this technology, of course, would have to have been deployed just after the making of FACELESS--around the time the TMPD revised their age range of the killer downwards, not up. That was reported by national news media directly quoting them.

 

[Incoherent]

RSMB: Interesting, isn't it? Another year, another "nameless source," another nothing burger.

Of course, it's possible the TMPD do have this fantastical genetic age prediction in their hands. But then, what would be the reason for saying nothing about it? They have shown us their 3D models. They have published TV listings from the night in question in a desperate hope it will spark some tangential memory. They have told us they have travelled to China on the possibility that the handkerchief was held a certain way in the manner of local fish factory workers. So on, and so on, and so on. Yet supposedly, they know the killer's age and they stay tight-lipped?

And this technology, of course, would have to have been deployed just after the making of FACELESS--around the time the TMPD revised their age range of the killer downwards, not up. That was reported by national news media directly quoting them.

To add, if they’re going to plead with the general public annually for information and ask people to think back to around that time, they may want to update that he was actually a man in his 30’s and not what the plethora of released information has been based on to date. Or else what do you have? Millions of people with entirely the wrong image of who he was looking in the wrong places.

IIRC it was just one news station that said they had an “informant” about it and that’s it. Nothing else has ever been said.

 

[Incoherent]

It seems someone has broken into the Miyazawa house.

A police officer in the area on December 13th found smashed glass on the floor from the window next to the entrance. Upon checking inside they also found muddy footprints around and the front door was unlocked from the inside. They’re currently checking to see if anything has been stolen from the house.

Link to Asahi news

Edit: not great quality but Asahi news also provide two images where you can see the window patched up from today.

 

[Eliver]

It seems someone has broken into the Miyazawa house.

A police officer in the area on December 13th found smashed glass on the floor from the window next to the entrance. Upon checking inside they also found muddy footprints around and the front door was unlocked from the inside. They’re currently checking to see if anything has been stolen from the house.

Link to Asahi news

Edit: not great quality but Asahi news also provide two images where you can see the window patched up from today.

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Oof, this is huge, wonder if someone is trying to do an indipendent investigation or what.

I remember just a couple years ago some students entered the perimeter of the house but not the house proper.

 

[Incoherent]

Oof, this is huge, wonder if someone is trying to do an indipendent investigation or what.

I remember just a couple years ago some students entered the perimeter of the house but not the house proper.

Found on the 13th, the same day the leaflets were being given out at Seijo Gakuenmae station with a huge police presence in the area.

The house is also loaded with CCTV so I’m sure whoever it was will be found soon.

The updates will be interesting.

 

[FacelessPodcast]

It seems someone has broken into the Miyazawa house.

A police officer in the area on December 13th found smashed glass on the floor from the window next to the entrance. Upon checking inside they also found muddy footprints around and the front door was unlocked from the inside. They’re currently checking to see if anything has been stolen from the house.

Link to Asahi news

Edit: not great quality but Asahi news also provide two images where you can see the window patched up from today.

Thank you, @Incoherent for the update. Obviously, providing 24 hour security for the better part of 25 years is something that you could only really see in this case. So I don't blame the TMPD for taking away that officer from the door in recent years. But as @Eliver says, this is not the first intrusion.

We approached An Irie several times circa 2021, asking for access to the property to scan for some residual genetic material left behind by the killer (which is legal on the say-so of the property's owner under Japanese law). That request was rejected several times. Now it's clear that, even if the laws surrounding DNA in Japan change tomorrow, the window is likely closing as the forensic integrity of the house is no longer preserved.

 

[Incoherent]

Not only did they break in, they went to the second floor as well and moved things around.
Link

 

[Frankie Hellis]

Thank you, @Incoherent for the update. Obviously, providing 24 hour security for the better part of 25 years is something that you could only really see in this case. So I don't blame the TMPD for taking away that officer from the door in recent years. But as @Eliver says, this is not the first intrusion.

We approached An Irie several times circa 2021, asking for access to the property to scan for some residual genetic material left behind by the killer (which is legal on the say-so of the property's owner under Japanese law). That request was rejected several times. Now it's clear that, even if the laws surrounding DNA in Japan change tomorrow, the window is likely closing as the forensic integrity of the house is no longer preserved.

Well hopefully they have DNA from 2000, if it hasn’t degraded beyond use. The break-ins are a defense attorney’s dream though.

 

[FacelessPodcast]

Well hopefully they have DNA from 2000, if it hasn’t degraded beyond use. The break-ins are a defense attorney’s dream though.

Yes, the TMPD definitely do have it. But until new laws are enacted, it doesn't seem like they can go any further with it (unless we believe the 'unnamed sources' that periodically get bandied about). Assuming they do need to wait for new laws to be written, that could be years. My point was that, had the owner of the property agreed to it, it would've been perfectly legal for experts to comb the house for the killer's DNA and by now we would have all sorts of information about him.

Information that eludes the TMPD as things stand.