Jared Leisek of Adventures With Purpose charged with child rape

[GoBuckeyes]

No Jared is not in custody to my knowledge. And if you read about the circumstances,Jared had basically admitted to his behaviour in emails to the victim, and IMO in a 'let's move on' type manner that many online remarked about in a negative way. The statute of limitations for sexual assault in Utah was revamped, so because of that his emails can be used against him. Perhaps he did not know about the extension of the time allowed to bring charges, hence was lax in what he wrote to the victim. This has not been said to have anything to do with the K.R. case they assisted with. His purported victims were his sister and cousin. Research it and read about it for yourself, as my explanation lacks all the details.

But charges have been filed, correct? And it's working its way to a trial?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

This is strictly opinion but often people involved in unacceptable things who are also in the public eye, play a shell game of look here not there to hide their issues.

Is there evidence that this behavior occurred more recently than 30 years ago?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

If AWP is in Jared’s name and he is shown to be guilty, and then others come forward saying he was dishonest about his ‘serving’ grieving families, then Jared could be taken to court for fraud.
Dive companies that could show they could serve families with an empathetic caring manner, and not take advantage of their grief would be providing a different service. That would make the non compete defunct.
It is like patent infringement, they have to be doing something different.

I just want to say that a confidentiality agreement does not cover an adult knowing another adult has engaged in the SA of a child. If I know suspect, or have strong evidence of such events happening, no such agreement is going to push my moral compass to any place where I could justify staying quiet. All it takes is a brave person picking up the phone, calling a free 1800 number and anonymously reporting such evidence.
Anyone with a phone can find that number if they feel compelled to Google.
So I don’t buy that these guys knew nothing. I don’t buy that these emails from Feb 2022 did not irritate him so much that he didn’t pop off due to his anger and feeling of being untouchable. He loves the spotlight and does not have the self awareness and ability to read the room well enough to know what is appropriate.

However, you're describing adult(s) who may or may not have known what a minor did to another minor 30 years ago. That offended minor is now more than an adult with agency who can report what she chooses to report or not report what she chooses not to report.

Having been in a situation where my choice to report or not to report was ripped away from me, and knowing how it felt to have that power taken from me, too, I would NEVER report if it did not involve a person who is presently a minor. AMOO Sometimes people do more harm than good, and its worthwhile to ask the survivor what he or she wants. I certainly have no expectations of anyone not involved 30 years ago to report squat. In fact, it's my opinion that that power should forever remain with the survivor alone, and what that adult survivor chooses to do is their right, not mine.

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[Andreee]

But charges have been filed, correct? And it's working its way to a trial?

He has been indicted, Jared. Founder of dive group that found Ralph Brown charged with rape

 

[Rolypolyoly]

@GoBuckeyes The victim reported it herself, and she has stated that what she wants is justice. She didn't get the justice she deserved as a child because her family decided to forgive him and sweep it under the carpet.

Now, she is an adult with the strength to use her own voice and she has exercised that right.
I hope this helps to answer one of your questions.

 

[loveplace]

Is there evidence that this behavior occurred more recently than 30 years ago?

I've no idea, I'm only commenting on the current allegations and my opinion that he's got plenty in his past he would like people not to notice. Hence his smoke and mirrors self history.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

@GoBuckeyes The victim reported it herself, and she has stated that what she wants is justice. She didn't get the justice she deserved as a child because her family decided to forgive him and sweep it under the carpet.

Now, she is an adult with the strength to use her own voice and she has exercised that right.
I hope this helps to answer one of your questions.

I just don't understand all of the condemnation toward the whole of AWP, with demands that those who worked with J report what they knew and when. They have nothing to do with this case. MOO

 

[tess_monaghan]

I just don't understand all of the condemnation toward the whole of AWP, with demands that those who worked with J report what they knew and when. They have nothing to do with this case. MOO

MOO I think they have a lot to do with the case given the following:
1. Questions around the financial setup of the org (i.e. is there an AWP without JL? Is continuing to support AWP equivalent to lining his pockets for his defense?) some others have posted speculating on this and sourcing different documents
2. The use of the AWP email account for the emails with the victim (see the following article for the source of this info) True Crime YouTuber to Plead Not Guilty to 1992 Child Rape Charges

However, you're describing adult(s) who may or may not have known what a minor did to another minor 30 years ago. That offended minor is now more than an adult with agency who can report what she chooses to report or not report what she chooses not to report.

Having been in a situation where my choice to report or not to report was ripped away from me, and knowing how it felt to have that power taken from me, too, I would NEVER report if it did not involve a person who is presently a minor. AMOO Sometimes people do more harm than good, and its worthwhile to ask the survivor what he or she wants. I certainly have no expectations of anyone not involved 30 years ago to report squat. In fact, it's my opinion that that power should forever remain with the survivor alone, and what that adult survivor chooses to do is their right, not mine.

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If I understand your point, it sounds like you are saying that people are in a tricky position in terms of whether to report their friend or acquaintance if they admit to sexually assaulting another individual, if they do not know the wishes of the victim. From my understanding, a lack of evidence might lead a victim to not want to come forward or will lead LE to not pursue the case when they do. If a third party corroborated my story, I and authorities might feel my case has a chance. If they do not come forward, I may never know they could corroborate. So I think bringing forth evidence you have that is coming from the perpetrator makes sense. The victim themselves still has the decision on whether they want to make a police report themselves, about their own experience, don’t they? Please correct me if I’m not understanding you correctly or this is factually off, IANAL MOO JMOO

Where I agree with you is that if a victim shares with you that they are the victim of a SA and they are currently an adult, then you should honor their wishes in terms of police involvement and also should not pressure them in any manner. MOO

Anyway… I think there are some important questions related to AWP that 1 &2 listed above brings up… Were others at the org were aware of this and chose not to come forward, and instead to continue to work for and associate with that individual despite knowing this? Were they able to read these emails? Did they? In terms of whether these questions are relevant to the case, idk, I’m new to websleuths so perhaps these questions are off-topic (is it a crime to know about a crime and not report it? I think no but if that’s accurate than perhaps we should restrict discussion to things that are crimes). That being said, I wonder if verbal admissions of guilt can be used as evidence in some manner, in which case it might be relevant whether JL has confessed to others at AWP? Or if someone at the org could in some way answer whether JL did indeed have access to this email address and whether it was plausible he did send the emails?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I certainly hope that there's more evidence than his singular response to his accuser in which he writes about molestation in general and wishing that families like theirs could change the history of molestation within those families. For all we know, they could both be victims. That response is a far cry from an admission of guilt. MOO

 

[megs1477]

Leaked emails reveal diver's excuse for 'child rape' & patronizing victim jibes

A SUSPECTED child rapist blamed his family’s twisted history and Mormonism for his alleged actions in leaked emails to the victim. Jared Leisek, the founding member of the volunteer dive team…

www.the-sun.com

"I have myself tried to apologize to you and to have an open conversation with you about it to answer any questions you may have.

"The first time that I apologized to you, I am sorry for the way that it was handled for I was under the impression that your mother knew and that I felt it was appropriate at that time to have the conversation with both of you."
—
He said making a 46-year-old man "live the mistakes" of a child is "not realistic."

"Thank God we are not forever judged for our actions as youth, and I'm grateful that many of us cousins acknowledged and stopped those sins which happened to us and those sins we once committed as a result of grooming," Leisek wrote.

I certainly hope that there's more evidence than his singular response to his accuser in which he writes about molestation in general and wishing that families like theirs could change the history of molestation within those families. For all we know, they could both be victims. That response is a far cry from an admission of guilt. MOO

I believe the comments above are what influenced most peoples opinions on this. While he himself being a victim is a terrible thing, it absolutely does not absolve him of the guilt of committing the same crime (in the eyes of our Justice system). On the contrary, I would expect a former victim to understand better than most the damage being inflicted.

 

[tess_monaghan]

"I have myself tried to apologize to you and to have an open conversation with you about it to answer any questions you may have.

"The first time that I apologized to you, I am sorry for the way that it was handled for I was under the impression that your mother knew and that I felt it was appropriate at that time to have the conversation with both of you."
—
He said making a 46-year-old man "live the mistakes" of a child is "not realistic."

"Thank God we are not forever judged for our actions as youth, and I'm grateful that many of us cousins acknowledged and stopped those sins which happened to us and those sins we once committed as a result of grooming," Leisek wrote.

I believe the comments above are what influenced most peoples opinions on this. While he himself being a victim is a terrible thing, it absolutely does not absolve him of the guilt of committing the same crime (in the eyes of our Justice system). On the contrary, I would expect a former victim to understand better than most the damage being inflicted.

Thank you--this is a better link than the one that I shared in terms of including more quotes from the emails themselves. Though I still wish there were more quotes from the emails here. I'm not sure why they quoted so sparingly.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I just don't understand all of the condemnation toward the whole of AWP, with demands that those who worked with J report what they knew and when. They have nothing to do with this case. MOO

I suspect most rational thinking people would agree that JL's co-workers in 2022 most likely had no idea he assaulted a child 30 years ago. Unfortunately for them, that doesn't matter. For many people, JL is in fact, AWP, and for many people, they'll never want anything to do with that outift, ever again.

This case appears to be the epitome of the 1 bad apple spoiling the entire bunch.

jmo

 

[indicolite22]

I suspect most rational thinking people would agree that JL's co-workers in 2022 most likely had no idea he assaulted a child 30 years ago. Unfortunately for them, that doesn't matter. For many people, JL is in fact, AWP, and for many people, they'll never want anything to do with that outift, ever again.

This case appears to be the epitome of the 1 bad apple spoiling the entire bunch.

jmo

JL owns AWP, so even if his former employees were allowed to continue with their mission (considering the alleged non compete clause in their contracts), they would have to found another company. I don't see people rejecting that.

 

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[bosh]

Jared Leisek arraignment for child rape TODAY 10:30 a.m MST. Court info below. You will have to download WebeX to view.

Court Calendar Detail - Utah Courts

 

[Andreee]

I suspect most rational thinking people would agree that JL's co-workers in 2022 most likely had no idea he assaulted a child 30 years ago. Unfortunately for them, that doesn't matter. For many people, JL is in fact, AWP, and for many people, they'll never want anything to do with that outift, ever again.

This case appears to be the epitome of the 1 bad apple spoiling the entire bunch.

jmo

You would think so, and so did I, until I noticed the comments below a new AWP video posted last night (filmed before the indictment of course). Many of the comments were positive towards Jared continuing on, although his subscriber numbers dropped a bit again.

 

[Ssschu]

Jared Leisek arraignment for child rape TODAY 10:30 a.m MST. Court info below. You will have to download WebeX to view.

Court Calendar Detail - Utah Courts

I missed the arraignment. Does anyone know what happened?

 

[MsMarple]

I missed the arraignment. Does anyone know what happened?

Proceedings were interrupted by YT creators. I’m trying to find a report…

 

[Ssschu]

Proceedings were interrupted by YT creators. I’m trying to find a report…

Good grief! Were they talking during the proceedings?

 

[MsMarple]

Okay, so I downloaded WebEx and submitted my name and email. Then clicked on Jared's case:

Court Calendar Detail - Utah Courts

I received a message that I can join the meeting after the host admits me. The next screen requires I obtain a pw from the host. I'm waiting to see if I receive it in my email. I guess if the arraignment is rescheduled they'll let me know in the email.

So far no email. @bosh is this the procedure you went through to join? I ask because I want to know if any change has been made to the public access portal because of the YTers disruption.