Jason Young to get new trial #2

[JusticeFever]

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The reason she was there is because her BIL called her on false pretenses. That's why she was there on a fluke. He had never called her before. HE set the wheels in motion.

That is also not true. He called Meredith the night before.

 

[citygirl]

Jason often relied on Meredith to smooth things over between Michelle and him, with the spouses often placing Meredith in the position of mediator. It was not unusual for Meredith to be the go-between for Jason and Michelle.

I'm well aware of that. The call to run to the house in the middle of the day was unusual. It was a fluke.

 

[citygirl]

It mattered enough to them to issue a search warrant for them being there!!

And nothing came of it. Investigated and resolved.

 

[citygirl]

That is also not true. He called Meredith the night before.

I have since clarified that. What did he call her for the night before? How come he didn't mention the print out then?

 

[sunshine05]

And nothing came of it. Investigated and resolved.

The fact still remains that her keys were on the hood of MY's car. Can you provide any logical explanation for that?

 

[sunshine05]

I have since clarified that. What did he call her for the night before? How come he didn't mention the print out then?

He called to discuss the argument he'd had with MY, to give his side of things.

The thing about the print-outs is that if he really did generate them as a reason to get MF to the house, why did he wait until after noon to contact her? He would have wanted her there as soon as possible. Why work the stopover in Brevard into the plan? There's no reason he couldn't have driven home after his appointments and probably would have arrived home a few hours after phoning MF. It would have been an assurance that he would get home to care for CY in the event that he was unable to reach MF or she was unable to get to the house that day.

 

[citygirl]

The fact still remains that her keys were on the hood of MY's car. Can you provide any logical explanation for that?

She just found her only sister brutally murdered, cold , stiff and lying in a pool of blood. I wouldn't know where I left my keys in that situation. Her main priority was to protect her little niece from any further trauma. And she did a fine job, IMO.

 

[JusticeFever]

And nothing came of it. Investigated and resolved.

Not really. Michelle's car also matches the description of other witness testimony. And, it would explain how CY spent all those hours. It is my belief that CY was taken from the home, I have no idea who drove the car or who else was in it though.

 

[JusticeFever]

I have since clarified that. What did he call her for the night before? How come he didn't mention the print out then?

Jason thought he had the purse print outs with him, I guess and didn't notice he didn't until the next day when he went to his meeting.

 

[MyBelle]

He called to discuss the argument he'd had with MY, to give his side of things.

The thing about the print-outs is that if he really did generate them as a reason to get MF to the house, why did he wait until after noon to contact her? He would have wanted her there as soon as possible. Why work the stopover in Brevard into the plan? There's no reason he couldn't have driven home after his appointments and probably would have arrived home a few hours after phoning MF. It would have been an assurance that he would get home to care for CY in the event that he was unable to reach MF or she was unable to get to the house that day.

ITA, there was no guarantee he would reach MF or that she would be available to go to the house for him yet he went on to Brevard. Yet another square peg the prosecution tried to force into a round hole.

JMO

 

[oenophile]

Not really. Michelle's car also matches the description of other witness testimony. And, it would explain how CY spent all those hours. It is my belief that CY was taken from the home, I have no idea who drove the car or who else was in it though.

On what basis do you come to that conclusion.

I think there are plenty of reasonable explanations for how CY was in the state she was in when she was found that do not include her being removed from the home. It simply doesn't make sense for someone to remove her only to put her back. First, wouldn't they be concerned that the body would have been found by the time they took her back. Second, wouldn't the perpetrator(s) worry about CY describing what happened to her?

I simply don't see a reasonable scenario where CY gets removed from the home then returned to the home.

 

[citygirl]

He called to discuss the argument he'd had with MY, to give his side of things.

The thing about the print-outs is that if he really did generate them as a reason to get MF to the house, why did he wait until after noon to contact her? He would have wanted her there as soon as possible. Why work the stopover in Brevard into the plan? There's no reason he couldn't have driven home after his appointments and probably would have arrived home a few hours after phoning MF. It would have been an assurance that he would get home to care for CY in the event that he was unable to reach MF or she was unable to get to the house that day.

What was the hurry to get his SIL there when the bidding was over? There is only one reason. Who is to say he was worried about his daughter? He had no problem leaving her with her dead mother. He had no problem closing her up in the bathroom while he finished his deed. He had no intention of coming home. He would have to face the police and his SIL ON HIS OWN. His trip to Brevard was unplanned until that very morning, was it not? Did they not have weekend guests coming for his beloved college football game that night?
Sorry, I am unconvinced otherwise. JMO.

 

[MyBelle]

She just found her only sister brutally murdered, cold , stiff and lying in a pool of blood. I wouldn't know where I left my keys in that situation. Her main priority was to protect her little niece from any further trauma. And she did a fine job, IMO.

At the time the keys were left, she supposedly had not yet found her sister or her niece. She later could not provide a logical explanation how her keys got there because the most logical explanation was self-incriminating, imo.

 

[citygirl]

Jason thought he had the purse print outs with him, I guess and didn't notice he didn't until the next day when he went to his meeting.

But he remembered the directions he printed out? Conveniently forgot the EBay print out. Do you really buy that?

 

[JusticeFever]

On what basis do you come to that conclusion.

I think there are plenty of reasonable explanations for how CY was in the state she was in when she was found that do not include her being removed from the home. It simply doesn't make sense for someone to remove her only to put her back. First, wouldn't they be concerned that the body would have been found by the time they took her back. Second, wouldn't the perpetrator(s) worry about CY describing what happened to her?

I simply don't see a reasonable scenario where CY gets removed from the home then returned to the home.

CY's car seat was in Michelle's car and would have been the easiest and most likely to transport her in.
Also, this is a theory that LE and the state themselves had. First, you have to add up all the hours the child was supposedly alone, and account for all them, what did she do? Do you know that 2 of CY's shoes were found in Michelle and Jason's bed right next to her? 2 different shoes? It came in @ Trial 2 testimony.. I will post that photo for you. Then there are the car sightings from 2 people that match Michelle's car. People were seen leaving the driveway at 5:30 am.The blood print on the door leading to the garage was probably made from a towel or clothing so as not to get fingerprints, this was the last thing done and I believe it was done after CY was brought back. Why would CY have her shoes in the bed, even if they didn't match , if she hadn't gone out somewhere? There are no shoe prints of CY in any blood. She came back, was put in bed and there are the shoes she had on until she or someone else took them off.

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[MyBelle]

On what basis do you come to that conclusion.

I think there are plenty of reasonable explanations for how CY was in the state she was in when she was found that do not include her being removed from the home. It simply doesn't make sense for someone to remove her only to put her back. First, wouldn't they be concerned that the body would have been found by the time they took her back. Second, wouldn't the perpetrator(s) worry about CY describing what happened to her?

I simply don't see a reasonable scenario where CY gets removed from the home then returned to the home.

It does make sense if the killer was aware Jason was out of town and knew when he planned to return. Who else would find the body? Didn't Meredith tell the 911 operator she never went over during the day?

JMO

 

[citygirl]

It does make sense if the killer was aware Jason was out of town and knew when he planned to return. Who else would find the body? Didn't Meredith tell the 911 operator she never went over during the day?

JMO

Exactly. She only went because he called her.

 

[JusticeFever]

But he remembered the directions he printed out? Conveniently forgot the EBay print out. Do you really buy that?

Yes, I do.

 

[sunshine05]

She just found her only sister brutally murdered, cold , stiff and lying in a pool of blood. I wouldn't know where I left my keys in that situation. Her main priority was to protect her little niece from any further trauma. And she did a fine job, IMO.

No but that doesn't make sense because that would mean she has her keys in her hand while on the 911 call and then places them on the hood of the car while exiting the house.

But remember that at the end of the call she said she didn't know where her keys were?

That can only mean that she walked into the garage, not knowing anything at this point about the condition of MY and she what? Places her car keys on the hood of MY's car? That doesn't work either, not logical. There must be a reason why they were there. I think it's an indication that she was there prior to 1:30 doing who knows what.

 

[sunshine05]

What was the hurry to get his SIL there when the bidding was over? There is only one reason. Who is to say he was worried about his daughter? He had no problem leaving her with her dead mother. He had no problem closing her up in the bathroom while he finished his deed. He had no intention of coming home. He would have to face the police and his SIL ON HIS OWN. His trip to Brevard was unplanned until that very morning, was it not? Did they not have weekend guests coming for his beloved college football game that night?
Sorry, I am unconvinced otherwise. JMO.

The bidding has no significance. He wasn't concerned at all with bidding. He printed out examples to consider and to have MF look them over before making a purchase.

YOU are saying he was worried about her and that is why he had MF go to the house, correct?

No evidence he was there that night or placed CY in the bathroom.

But why plan the trip to Brevard if he knew he'd have to get home to his unattended daughter? What was the purpose of working that into the plan at all? IF he did the killing, he wouldn't plan an overnight visit with his family and risk CY being left alone another entire night. IF he's guilty, there must be an explanation for this and I can't think of one.