Jason Young to get new trial #2

[Grammy Jean]

I look forward to the testimony of the psychologist at the next trial.

Are you talking about the psychologist who was never called by prosecution or defense in either of the other trials? What makes you think that person would have something of value to offer now?

 

[sunshine05]

Unless you know JY then there is no know he WOULD take a deal.

Re: a possible deal - First, no one know even if a deal will be offered. Just because Abrora(sp?) was offered one does not mean these other cases will.

IF he is offered a deal and turns it down, I respect that as he is maintaining his innocence despite facing possible life in prison.

IF he is offered a deal and accepts, I respect that too as it is impossible to assume that one is going to receive a fair trial in Wake County.

We will just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[oenophile]

Well, it would depend on the deal, wouldn't it? I would think he couldn't turn down something in the range of a 5-7 year deal. JMO

True, but I don't think the DA would ever offer that either. Nothing less than 15 to 30, and I think that is even a stretch.

The only way he would take that kind of deal is if he did it. And based on the evidence, I don't think he did it. Thus, I don't think he would take that deal.

Then again, I would never take a deal for something that I didn't do.

 

[sunshine05]

Are you talking about the psychologist who was never called by prosecution or defense in either of the other trials? What makes you think that person would have something of value to offer now?

I agree. I don't think there is anything there.

 

[MyBelle]

Are you talking about the psychologist who was never called by prosecution or defense in either of the other trials? What makes you think that person would have something of value to offer now?

I'm talking about the psychologist Meredith Fisher mentioned in her testimony.

I don't know that either the prosecutor or defense was aware of the presence of this person prior to her testimony.

 

[Landonsmom02]

I'm talking about the psychologist Meredith Fisher mentioned in her testimony.

I don't know that either the prosecutor or defense was aware of the presence of this person prior to her testimony.

So who called the pyschologist in? MF?? That's absurd to say the the DT and State didn't know she was there. She probaly wasn't called because CY had shut down and wasn't talking and it wasn't beneficial if they couldn't talk to her. We don't know that they might have tried talking to her again but JY wouldn't allow it? I would love to know more about this.

What would make more sense is if the Young's had of gotten CY therapy. Who knows? After all they took her and kept her in Brevard for all those years.

 

[Landonsmom02]

I don't see how the blood on the doorknob indicates anyone specifically - just that we know it was the murderer. It still bothers me that her car keys were carelessly placed on MY's hood of her Lexus though. I can't think of a scenario for an innocent placing of keys at that location.

BBM

Do we know where MF exited the house when on the phone with WCSD? How did she enter the house? Wasn't it through the garage?

 

[citygirl]

So who called the pyschologist in? MF?? That's absurd to say the the DT and State didn't know she was there. She probaly wasn't called because CY had shut down and wasn't talking and it wasn't beneficial if they couldn't talk to her. We don't know that they might have tried talking to her again but JY wouldn't allow it? I would love to know more about this.

What would make more sense is if the Young's had of gotten CY therapy. Who knows? After all they took her and kept her in Brevard for all those years.

The only "so called" psychologist I recall being mentioned was a friend of the Young family. She monitored the visits between Michelle's family and JY. I won't go into the details of how that all played out as I don't know if that came out during the trial. Can't remember.

 

[Grammy Jean]

I don't see how the blood on the doorknob indicates anyone specifically - just that we know it was the murderer. It still bothers me that her car keys were carelessly placed on MY's hood of her Lexus though. I can't think of a scenario for an innocent placing of keys at that location.

I re- listened to MF's testimony the other day. She testified that she has a specific memory of placing her keys on the counter where she always placed them. She said she has no idea how they ended up on MY's Lexus. There were photos introduced at trial of the crime scene that showed MF's keys exactly where she claimed to have left them. I could speculate that perhaps later one of the LE perhaps thought they were keys to the Lexus and tried to use them to search the car. That is truly speculation on my part.

 

[MyBelle]

The only "so called" psychologist I recall being mentioned was a friend of the Young family. She monitored the visits between Michelle's family and JY. I won't go into the details of how that all played out as I don't know if that came out during the trial. Can't remember.

I'm referring to the psychologist mentioned by Meredith Fisher in her testimony who was at her home later that night. She did not indicate whether the person was a friend to Jason and Michelle. Perhaps it was, which would add credibility to the observations because they had a reference point for CY's behavior both before and after her mother's murder.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

I re- listened to MF's testimony the other day. She testified that she has a specific memory of placing her keys on the counter where she always placed them. She said she has no idea how they ended up on MY's Lexus. There were photos introduced at trial of the crime scene that showed MF's keys exactly where she claimed to have left them. I could speculate that perhaps later one of the LE perhaps thought they were keys to the Lexus and tried to use them to search the car. That is truly speculation on my part.

So, you're saying there were crime scene photos showing MF's keys both on the Lexus AND on the kitchen counter? I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense to me.

 

[citygirl]

I'm referring to the psychologist mentioned by Meredith Fisher in her testimony who was at her home later that night. She did not indicate whether the person was a friend to Jason and Michelle. Perhaps it was, which would add credibility to the observations because they had a reference point for CY's behavior both before and after her mother's murder.

JMO

Can you refer me to that testimony? I have no recollection of that. I don't believe this is the same person I am referring to.

 

[MyBelle]

Can you refer me to that testimony? I have no recollection of that. I don't believe this is the same person I am referring to.

testimony itself is on WRAL. News coverage states it was a psychologist but didn't give personal identity.

Lawyers also asked Fisher about asking Cassidy if she had seen anything. Fisher said Cassidy mentioned her father, but was not specific. Later, when questioned by a child psychologist, Fisher said Cassidy shut down and didn't have any more information.

http://abc30.com/archive/8535835/

 

[citygirl]

I'm referring to the psychologist mentioned by Meredith Fisher in her testimony who was at her home later that night. She did not indicate whether the person was a friend to Jason and Michelle. Perhaps it was, which would add credibility to the observations because they had a reference point for CY's behavior both before and after her mother's murder.

JMO

According to the testimony it was NOT that night.

 

[citygirl]

testimony itself is on WRAL. News coverage states it was a psychologist but didn't give personal identity.

Lawyers also asked Fisher about asking Cassidy if she had seen anything. Fisher said Cassidy mentioned her father, but was not specific. Later, when questioned by a child psychologist, Fisher said Cassidy shut down and didn't have any more information.

http://abc30.com/archive/8535835/

Thank you.

"I want to know. Were you crying?" asked defense attorney Bryan Collins.

"No, I was not. Not initially," Fisher responded.

Fisher maintained she was trying to stay strong since Cassidy was wandering around the house. The little girl had left her baby doll by her dead mother and a trail of small bloody footprints upstairs.

"She'd been through enough. She didn't need to hear it," said Fisher.

Lawyers also asked Fisher about asking Cassidy if she had seen anything. Fisher said Cassidy mentioned her father, but was not specific. Later, when questioned by a child psychologist, Fisher said Cassidy shut down and didn't have any more information.

Where does this say it was THAT night?

 

[Nymeria]

Then we have to figure out how she was cleaned up because no blood was found in that bathroom's drains. Some suggest JY cleaned her with baby wipes but why would he do that? Wouldn't one clean her right there in that bathroom logically?

I wonder if they missed the blood. I don't know how accurate the test is.

I would run the water for a long time to be sure to wash the drains thoroughly.
I am not an expert on forensics, but I think it is found if the water is not run for long enough and get's caught in the trap (the curved pipe under sinks)

 

[Grammy Jean]

So, you're saying there were crime scene photos showing MF's keys both on the Lexus AND on the kitchen counter? I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense to me.

Yes, in Michael Galloway's crime scene photos keys were on kitchen counter.

 

[citygirl]

So, you're saying there were crime scene photos showing MF's keys both on the Lexus AND on the kitchen counter? I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense to me.

What makes no sense to me is WHERE her keys were. It factored into nothing. No big deal. LE must have viewed it the same way. It matters naught to them. I'm inclined to go with their assessment as opposed to yours.

 

[sunshine05]

I re- listened to MF's testimony the other day. She testified that she has a specific memory of placing her keys on the counter where she always placed them. She said she has no idea how they ended up on MY's Lexus. There were photos introduced at trial of the crime scene that showed MF's keys exactly where she claimed to have left them. I could speculate that perhaps later one of the LE perhaps thought they were keys to the Lexus and tried to use them to search the car. That is truly speculation on my part.

I would assert that the keys MF claimed as hers on the counter were MY's keys. Otherwise, where were MY's keys?

I don't see LE putting MF's keys on the hood of the car. Also, remember during the 911 call she is exiting the house and says "I have no idea what I did with my keys."

 

[sunshine05]

What makes no sense to me is WHERE her keys were. It factored into nothing. No big deal. LE must have viewed it the same way. It matters naught to them. I'm inclined to go with their assessment as opposed to yours.

It does matter. They ended up obtaining a search warrant to search the Lexus many months later partially due to those keys being found on the hood. It is not "no big deal". It's yet one more unexplained thing concerning MF. Who goes into someone's home and leaves their keys on the hood of a car in a garage? No one. That means she was in there for some reason.