Jason Young to get new trial #2

[MyBelle]

I want to know why no one has mentioned at the end of the 911 call, CY is telling MF that someone was there. I never heard the entire 9 minute phone call before, just the short version, but in the longer one CY is telling MF that someone was there, not Jason, not Daddy, but someone. MF repeats those words to the 911 operator.

I know. "Someone." Not Jason, not Meredith, but "someone." Someone was there. Someone obliterated Michelle, helped themselves to valuable symbols of her marriage and motherhood and then took care of her and Jason's daughter. Someone washed CY's clothes, entertained her. Someone tucked CY in for a nap, where Meredith found her early afternoon. I have to wonder if LE ever listened to that call or ever asked Shelly whether that laundry basket of clothes was there when she was with Michelle. A red shirt was on top and this is often a color one washes with "pink."

There are so many similarities in the prosecutions of both Cooper and Young. It seems LE theory morphed into "evidence" even though there was no actual evidence to support the theory. They did this with Cooper by insisting that because an automated phone call may have been "possible" therefore it happened even though there was no evidence Cooper had the equipment to do it.

Such a travesty of justice for these little girls and their mothers.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

There were no toys found in M&J's bedroom, no signs that CY played in there at all, even before this happened. There is nothing in that room or the bed that shows how CY would have kept herself entertained or busy, other than a pair of mismatched shoes which are entirely out of place. At one point, she had her doll, but we don't know when she placed it by Michelle. There is no way of knowing what that little girl did for 10+hours.....slept, drugged, taken away, saw something, didn't see something, We will never know.
If the state wants you to believe she witnessed the crime, there has to be something more definite than just the above theories.

I could not tell from the photo what kind of CY's shoes were on the bed. Are they sandals or leather or what? Can you tell? Thanks.

 

[otto]

[modsnip] I will provide links to support the blood evidence presented at trial.

The Defense will never be able to make the argument that the child wasn't cared for and cleaned by an adult. It will never happen. If I have time today I will find for you the evidence that CY had to be carried to the bathroom where the prints were left because there are no bloody small prints of hers in that hallway. Her prints were in the master closet and in the hall bathroom and nowhere else.

According to this article, published December 4, 2008, blood was found on the carpet between the two bedrooms. Could that blood have been a result of the child walking to the bathroom, and then continuing on to her bedroom?

"The warrants also question Cassidy's whereabouts during the crime. According to the warrants, bloody child size footprints were found on the floor of Cassidy's bathroom. Investigators also found blood on the carpet between the room Michelle Young was found murdered in and Cassidy's bedroom."

http://abc11.com/archive/6540109/

 

[MyBelle]

According to this article, published December 4, 2008, blood was found on the carpet between the two bedrooms. Could that blood have been a result of the child walking to the bathroom, and then continuing on to her bedroom?

"The warrants also question Cassidy's whereabouts during the crime. According to the warrants, bloody child size footprints were found on the floor of Cassidy's bathroom. Investigators also found blood on the carpet between the room Michelle Young was found murdered in and Cassidy's bedroom."

http://abc11.com/archive/6540109/

Finding blood on the carpet does not mean it was from CY's feet. According to your link:

Further, Michelle Young's sister Meredith Fisher told investigators she found Cassidy with clean feet under the sheets on her parents' bed. In the warrants, they say because of the bloody footprints in Cassidy's bathroom, it's "logical" to conclude that the child was carried from the murder scene to her bathroom.


JMO

 

[otto]

Finding blood on the carpet does not mean it was from CY's feet. According to your link:

Further, Michelle Young's sister Meredith Fisher told investigators she found Cassidy with clean feet under the sheets on her parents' bed. In the warrants, they say because of the bloody footprints in Cassidy's bathroom, it's "logical" to conclude that the child was carried from the murder scene to her bathroom.


JMO

What I don't understand is why it is logical to state that there is blood on the carpet between the bedroom and the bathroom, and therefore the child was carried. That isn't logical for me.

 

[JusticeFever]

I could not tell from the photo what kind of CY's shoes were on the bed. Are they sandals or leather or what? Can you tell? Thanks.

It is in Photo 44 of 49, there is a black dressy shoe and a flip flop. The black shoe tested positive for blood, meaning at some point CY was wearing it. R. Holley testified that swabbing inside of the shoe showed blood at the ball of the foot and the heel.

Here is a link to photos:
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9727548/

VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED,

 

[Landonsmom02]

I want to know why no one has mentioned at the end of the 911 call, CY is telling MF that someone was there. I never heard the entire 9 minute phone call before, just the short version, but in the longer one CY is telling MF that someone was there, not Jason, not Daddy, but someone. MF repeats those words to the 911 operator.

I have mentioned that before thanks and it has been overlooked as a discussion here. Her mentioning that is what leads me to believe why MF said CY was "referencing her father".

 

[Landonsmom02]

Shelly was so scared she had to ask Michelle to walk her out to her car, and her car was parked right in the driveway right next to the house, not on the street.
That is scared.

Where she is parked doesn't matter. She was scared to walk to her car at night.....alone. If she were that afraid she should have been more concerned about leaving her friend, who was pregnant, and at home with a 2 year old alone. I'm not faulting her, I'm just saying she couldn't have been too afraid.

 

[JusticeFever]

If I were on the next jury, (which I won't be and there may not even be a trial) I would have to ask the state what do you want me to believe?
Do you want me to believe that the child was alone all night, do you want me to believe she slept, do you want me to believe she was drugged, or do you want me to think she was taken from the home?
Do you want me to think she had nothing to drink or eat since the time Michelle put her to bed, which was around 8-9 pm
( I have to look that up to be sure, SS testimony) and did not have anything until the following day when she was found at 1:30PM....some 17 and a half, almost 18 hours later????

 

[MyBelle]

What I don't understand is why it is logical to state that there is blood on the carpet between the bedroom and the bathroom, and therefore the child was carried. That isn't logical for me.

It makes sense to me if it was just a single blotch of blood or two. She had bloody socks on two feet. Something else left the blood on the carpet other than CY's feet. There are a LOT of bloody footprints in the bathroom. It would be impossible for CY to walk down the hallway to the bathroom and not leave a path of bloody residue on the carpet.

JMO

 

[JusticeFever]

Where she is parked doesn't matter. She was scared to walk to her car at night.....alone. If she were that afraid she should have been more concerned about leaving her friend, who was pregnant, and at home with a 2 year old alone. I'm not faulting her, I'm just saying she couldn't have been too afraid.

Her car was right outside in the driveway and the driveway was clear since Jason's car was gone, which btw, is where he normally parked, since the garage was filled due to Michelle's car and a boat inside. So, anyone riding by would know JY was not home because his car was gone. Thanks for reminding me of that.

 

[MyBelle]

It is in Photo 44 of 49, there is a black dressy shoe and a flip flop. The black shoe tested positive for blood, meaning at some point CY was wearing it. R. Holley testified that swabbing inside of the shoe showed blood at the ball of the foot and the heel.

Here is a link to photos:
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9727548/

VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED,

I see it now, thanks.

 

[JusticeFever]

I have mentioned that before thanks and it has been overlooked as a discussion here. Her mentioning that is what leads me to believe why MF said CY was "referencing her father".

Why would CY call Jason, her daddy, someone????

 

[JusticeFever]

I see it now, thanks.

You are welcome, if you look at some of the photos , you will see how things were moved around, such as with Michelle's closet, the launrdy basket downstairs, the tv remotes, etc.

 

[MyBelle]

Her car was right outside in the driveway and the driveway was clear since Jason's car was gone, which btw, is where he normally parked, since the garage was filled due to Michelle's car and a boat inside. So, anyone riding by would know JY was not home because his car was gone. Thanks for reminding me of that.

ITA. It didn't seem to be any secret that Jason as traveling on business.

It is also important to note that while Michelle did not seem to be as afraid as was her friend, she also walked her out to her car. So maybe, just maybe, Michelle also was afraid and just didn't want her friend to know it.

JMO

 

[SStarr33]

Where is the evidence sticky? I don't see it at the top of the forum.

 

[MyBelle]

Why would CY call Jason, her daddy, someone????

She wouldn't. In one sentence she refers to "Daddy" and the next she refers to him as someone???

....not even close to believable, imo.

 

[SStarr33]

Did they test the child's blood for sleeping meds?

 

[JusticeFever]

This article should clear a few things up, dated Feb 8th, 2012

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10702549/

"Wednesday was the first time Fisher has said publicly that her niece referenced her father that day during her interaction with the 911 operator"

She (Fisher) was never asked about it during the testimony in Jason Young's first murder trial.

Same article, the blood or lack of:

"Wake County's sheriff's deputy Scott Earp,-one of two officers first to repond to the Young house- testified that he was caught off guard when Fisher told him she had not cleaned the girl".
I think I expected a "yes" out of it, he said Wednesday,"I thought that was kind of odd".

All of this is in testimony at WRAL too.

 

[Grammy Jean]

I want to know why no one has mentioned at the end of the 911 call, CY is telling MF that someone was there. I never heard the entire 9 minute phone call before, just the short version, but in the longer one CY is telling MF that someone was there, not Jason, not Daddy, but someone. MF repeats those words to the 911 operator.

MF testified that when they were in the firetruck CY referenced her father several times. Also on the 911 call I hear CY say "Daddy do it" I sent a link for that part of the 911 call days ago, also to me it appeared that DT were squirmy in their seats as that part was played.