Jason Young to get new trial #4

[citygirl]

And how lucky she is to have her father and the Youngs. They all love her very much.

If you know, does JY's family spend time with CY?

 

[otto]

At the time of that conversation, they didn't even know the cause of death. There was speculation that MY had bled as a result of the pregnancy. MF was not given details initially. JY asked her if CY was ok, according to testimony.

If you find he spoke to anyone, other than his attorneys, about any details, please share such link(s).

No one knew the cause of death until the autopsy report was completed. When the report was completed, it was posted on the internet (January 22, 2007). Neither Meredith nor Jason needed to ask anyone for the results.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2007/01/22/1175523/1307321296-scan0001.pdf

 

[tarheellvr]

And how lucky she is to have her father and the Youngs. They all love her very much.

Yes, they always had her best interest in mind. Keeping her from her Mommy's side of the family because Linda Fisher wouldn't publically support JY's innocence........yes, it was certainly in Cassidy's best interest to loose her Mommy and then loose the closest 2 people to her Mommy.

Yes, the daddy who so willingly gave her up. Yes, I'm well aware of the excuses made for him, but the only reason he did what he did was to avoid a psyche exam and being questioned about the events of Michell's murder.

Put it all in a box, wrap it in beautiful paper, and top it with a hand tied bow and what do you have? A box is filled with excuses, excuses, and more excuses for his/their behavior and in the center is Cassidy who so desperately needed her aunt and grandmother, whose Father severed all contact.

I know, I know....Ive heard it all. His rights as a father, lawyers advised this and that, etc, but to all of that I have one thing to say B*ll *****. If he had Cassidy's best interest at heart, he would never, ever have damaged this little girl further psychologically by taking her aunt and grandmother out of her life.

Nobody in this world will ever convince me what they did to this innocent child did not hurt her. At 2, aalmost 3, she most CERTAINLY DID suffer effects of being with her dead Mommy whether she saw the murder or not. She internalized every second of that day. She also internalized the effects of being torn from her aunt and grandmother.

Yeah right.....they love her. Yeah right.......

 

[tarheellvr]

No one knew the cause of death until the autopsy report was completed. When the report was completed, it was posted on the internet (January 22, 2007). Neither Meredith nor Jason needed to ask anyone for the results.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2007/01/22/1175523/1307321296-scan0001.pdf

But what about the time period from Nov to Jan?????

 

[otto]

Yes, they always had her best interest in mind. Keeping her from her Mommy's side of the family because Linda Fisher wouldn't publically support JY's innocence........yes, it was certainly in Cassidy's best interest to loose her Mommy and then loose the closest 2 people to her Mommy.

Yes, the daddy who so willingly gave her up. Yes, I'm well aware of the excuses made for him, but the only reason he did what he did was to avoid a psyche exam and being questioned about the events of Michell's murder.

Put it all in a box, wrap it in beautiful paper, and top it with a hand tied bow and what do you have? A box is filled with excuses, excuses, and more excuses for his/their behavior and in the center is Cassidy who desperately needed her aunt and grandmother, who her Father severed all contact.

I know, I know....Ive heard it all. His rights as a father, lawyers advised this and that, etc, but to all of that I have one thing to say B*ll *****. If he had Cassidy's best interest at heart, he would never, ever have damaged this little girl further psychologically by taking her aunt and grandmother out of her life.

Nobody in this world will ever convince me what they did to this innocent child did not hurt her. At 2, aalmost 3, she most CERTAINLY DID suffer effects of being with her dead Mommy whether she saw the murder or not. She internalized every second of that day. She also internalized the effects of being torn from her aunt and grandmother.

Yeah right.....they love her. Yeah right.......

The custody application that was filed by Michelle's sister and mother leaves no doubt that they had a very poor opinion of Jason. Most parents would want to protect their children from people with such a poor opinion of the parents. Supervised access is one option for ensuring that the poor attitude is not shared with the child. No access is another option.

 

[otto]

But what about the time period from Nov to Jan?????

During those two months, no one knew the cause of death because the autopsy report had not been released.

 

[Nymeria]

Exactly... And if the door is always locked who goes to someones house without the key...

She took the key off her keyring the week before so a friend could take care of the dog and/or plants (or something like that). MF, MY & JY were in New York for a family party.
When she got to the house she realized she had forgotten to put the key back on the key ring.

At least, that is what she said on the stand, it is right around the hose testimony linked here in the last couple days. I think it was on cross.

 

[Nymeria]

The custody application that was filed by Michelle's sister and mother leaves no doubt that they had a very poor opinion of Jason. Most parents would want to protect their children from people with such a poor opinion of the parents. Supervised access is one option for ensuring that the poor attitude is not shared with the child. No access is another option.

This keep being said, and I still can not believe deep down those who say it believe it.
If someone in your family was murdered and you even had a 1% suspicion that a person with custody of a child did it, would you not want to try to get the child away from said person?

 

[tarheellvr]

The custody application that was filed by Michelle's sister and mother leaves no doubt that they had a very poor opinion of Jason. Most parents would want to protect their children from people with such a poor opinion of the parents. Supervised access is one option for ensuring that the poor attitude is not shared with the child. No access is another option.

Again, all I have to say is **** *****.........JY protecting Cassidy? The only person he protected was himself, the only person he thought about was himself.

What were they afraid of? Linda Fisher and Meredith Fisher are educated women with Cassidy's best interest at heart. Supervised visits my a**. Cassidy spent more time with these 2 people in her entire life than she did the Youngs.

There is NO EXCUSE......no excuse at all for their behavior because it affected an innocent little girl.

 

[tarheellvr]

The custody application that was filed by Michelle's sister and mother leaves no doubt that they had a very poor opinion of Jason. Most parents would want to protect their children from people with such a poor opinion of the parents. Supervised access is one option for ensuring that the poor attitude is not shared with the child. No access is another option.

They were FORCED to file this custody application. This was the only way they could have access to the child they loved most in this world. JY is responsible for this......JY and his refusal to let them see/visit with Cassidy.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

She took the key off her keyring the week before so a friend could take care of the dog and/or plants (or something like that). MF, MY & JY were in New York for a family party.
When she got to the house she realized she had forgotten to put the key back on the key ring.

At least, that is what she said on the stand, it is right around the hose testimony linked here in the last couple days. I think it was on cross.

Again who goes to a house without a key... You always check or at least people with common sense do..

 

[otto]

Again, all I have to say is **** *****.........JY protecting Cassidy? The only person he protected was himself, the only person he thought about was himself.

What were they afraid of? Linda Fisher and Meredith Fisher are educated women with Cassidy's best interest at heart. Supervised visits my a**. Cassidy spent more time with these 2 people in her entire life than she did the Youngs.

There is NO EXCUSE......no excuse at all for their behavior because it affected an innocent little girl.

We don't know how much time the family spent with their in laws. It is impossible to make the claim that the family spent more time with Michelle's mother and father than with Jason's parents.

 

[tarheellvr]

During those two months, no one knew the cause of death because the autopsy report had not been released.

I'm referring to JY when I mentioned Nov to Jan. Meredith was there, she saw her sist6er. The police knew right away it was a murder. During those 2 months did JY talk or even ask LE ANYTHING about his dead wife???

I know, I know his legal advice, etc. This was his wife, the wife who was carrying his son and he never once tried to aid LE or even bother to ask questions? IMO this is one of the first indicators of guilt to me.

 

[citygirl]

During those two months, no one knew the cause of death because the autopsy report had not been released.

Boodles wrote that they didn't know the cause of death. Pretty easy to decipher she meant they didn't know it was a homicide in the early hours. It's as simple as that. MOO.

 

[otto]

They were FORCED to file this custody application. This was the only way they could have access to the child they loved most in this world. JY is responsible for this......JY and his refusal to let them see/visit with Cassidy.

No one was forced to apply for custody of a child that lived with her father, and no one was forced to demand a psychological evaluation of that father.

This was not a visitation application, it was a custody application. If the in laws felt that they did not have enough visitation, they should have applied for that.

http://www.wral.com/asset/news/loca...her_custody_complaint_against_Jason_Young.pdf

 

[tarheellvr]

We don't know how much time the family spent with their in laws. It is impossible to make the claim that the family spent more time with Michelle's mother and father than with Jason's parents.

Well that's really irrelevant.......the main issue here is JY keeping an innocent little girl from her Mommy's closest relatives.

When you consider Cassidy and ONLY Cassidy, what he did was beyond horrible!

 

[otto]

I'm referring to JY when I mentioned Nov to Jan. Meredith was there, she saw her sist6er. The police knew right away it was a murder. During those 2 months did JY talk or even ask LE ANYTHING about his dead wife???

I know, I know his legal advice, etc. This was his wife, the wife who was carrying his son and he never once tried to aid LE or even bother to ask questions? IMO this is one of the first indicators of guilt to me.

No one could provide answers about the cause of death until the autopsy report was completed. Criticizing Jason for not asking for information that was not available doesn't make much sense.

To suggest that Jason did not know anything about the murder doesn't make sense either. We knew all about the murder as soon as the information was available because it was posted in the news. Jason could also read the news.

 

[Nymeria]

Again who goes to a house without a key... You always check or at least people with common sense do..

Just telling you what was testified to. :dunno:

 

[otto]

Well that's really irrelevant.......the main issue here is JY keeping an innocent little girl from her Mommy's closest relatives.

When you consider Cassidy and ONLY Cassidy, what he did was beyond horrible!

Some people might think that it is "beyond horrible" for in laws to try to take custody of children away from parents.

 

[citygirl]

The custody application that was filed by Michelle's sister and mother leaves no doubt that they had a very poor opinion of Jason. Most parents would want to protect their children from people with such a poor opinion of the parents. Supervised access is one option for ensuring that the poor attitude is not shared with the child. No access is another option.

How so? They were looking for partial custody so they could see her on a regular basis. They were completely shocked when he gave MF sole physical custody! He gave her up and agreed to see her every other weekend and holidays that were worked out between them. Why is that so difficult to understand? And the people with poor opinions of one another came from both sides. I doubt that either side would look to undermine the other with a 2.5 year old. She would be too young to grasp that concept anyway. I think you would be wise to give more credit to the adults on both sides of the family.
And in the end it was the best thing for the child. He was arrested 10 months later. She had a certain amount of stability in her life by then. MOO.