Jaycee's Bio dad

[Natal]

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I vote for when hell freezes over.:furious:

That KEN SLAYTON JR , 41 YEARS OLD, did not know he had a sister named JC nor the story about her kidnapping until recently. Speaks volumes to me.
My guess is MR. Slayton senior ALSO does not have much of a relationship with his older children. Whatdaya wanna bet?
NEWSFLASH
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat..._jaycee_lee_dugards_father.html#ixzz0Q3NnWiI8

Meanwhile, Kenneth Slayton Jr., 41, was stunned to learn Jaycee was his half sister. "I had no idea I even had a half sister until my full sister called and told me the other night," Slayton Jr. told the Daily News.


Anyone who wants to argue that Slayton did not want JD to meet his 2nd (technically 3rd) family due to the tender considerations of immature little minds, NEED JUST READ Slayton JR's statment above.

Ken Slayton Jr's statement PROVES beyond a shadow of a doubt that it had nothing to do with the Children's interest and everything to do with MR. Slaytons interest as to why he choose to ignore JC's existence. He isn't the first unwed (and sometimes wed) father to do this, so I am not trying to nail Slayton to the cross, but enough already with all the excuses!


After re listening to the tone of that press conference, and the not so subtle message that Slayton wants some action coming out of the dugard camp (probably just to satisfy selfish and self centered curiosity for the "lost sister") I think Slayton outta just back off and leave things as they lie.


There is ABSOLUTELY NO LEGAL STANDING for Mr. Slayton regarding paternity issues. The time to become a father to JC has legally passed, and the only person who can change his standing on any personal kind of level is JC, and she can do it in her own sweet time and should not feel any pressure from anyone at all, especially at this time.

Shame on Mr. Slayton for having this press conference and shame on MS Allred for both her demeanor and timing.

You believe him? He would have been 23 when the kidnapping happened, and since his father was interviewed by the police, it is hard to think he wouldn't have know about it if he was still around, so clearly he wasn't. Keep in mind that Slayton was getting divorced when he had his fling with Dugard. That was 11 years earlier, so the son would have been 12 at the time. Obviously he lived with his mother after the divorce, that would explain the lack of knowledge.

Also, he doesnt have any full sisters, so a full sister couldnt have told him anything. Slayton remarried around the time Jaycee was born or soon after (another reason why the issue wouldn't have been pressed...it would have made things extremely complicated at a personal level). The two daughters are from his second wife, so they would be the brother's half sisters. They apparently had prior knowledge of Jaycee, however they thought she was dead. But since they were in a different family from the brother it was something that never came up in casual conversation.

 

[LillyRush]

I have no opinion on this whole Slayton situation yet. But he was very very specific on an interview that I can link if you like, that he approached Glo and it was not the other way around. He went out of his way to make that very clear. I know she is not media, but she bases her practice almost entirely on media attention and high profile cases. So contacting Glo IS contacting the media.
ETA: As an aside, in that same interview which I will go get in a minute, he contradicted himself.
At one point he said he "never knew Jaycee existed". then when pressed on it, he said that someone did mention to him a month after her birth that Terry had had a baby and she looked just like him.
He also said that he tried contacting Terry once, but after he moved away to another area it was "out of sight out of mind"

http://www.kfiam640.com/cc-common/mediaplayer/playerccas.html?mps=kfigenericskin.php&mid=http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/LOSANGELES-CA/KFI-AM/KS0924097.mp3?CPROG=PCAST%3FCCOMRRMID&CPROG=RICHMEDIA&MARKET=LOSANGELES-CA&NG_FORMAT=talk&NG_ID=kfi640am&OR_NEWSFORMAT=&OWNER=&SERVER_NAME=www.kfiam640.com&SITE_ID=616&STATION_ID=KFI-AM&TRACK=

This is great and I would suggest that everyone, for and against Slayton's recent actions, listen to this interview. The interview starts at about the 17 minute mark of the broadcast. At about the 24 minute mark of the interview, Kennedy starts to ask him some tougher questions.

She and Suits first ask, why doesn't he just let this situation develop organically instead of pushing the matter through legal and media means? His response to this starts off by pretty much talking negatively about Terry/Susan, implying that his sudden reappearance in her life now after all these years is no different than how Terry "somehow managed" to keep Jaycee from him for 11 yrs and then sprung it on him in 1991 (via the FBI) that he was the father. Really? Um. Wow. I think we can also all agree that speaking in a negative manner towards the only biological parent that Jaycee has ever known (her mother) is not exactly going to endear him to her.

As JBean has pointed out, he also contradicted himself when asked how much effort he put into making contact with Jaycee. His immediate response is that he "didn't know she existed". But, then when confronted by Kennedy who mentions that she read an article where he discusses the mutual friend, he suddenly remembers that ..oh yeah, wait, I did know she existed...tried to make contact after that friend told me this, that, blah, blah. I also noticed that he did not mention the phone call from Terry/Susan that he received a month after their August 1979 encounter. I guess maybe he needed Kennedy or someone to remind him about that too. Speaking of that phone call....for those of you who think that Terry was hiding from him, do you think that if she had truly originally wanted to hide things from him that she would have even bothered calling him at all? How do you think that phone call played out?

He also really avoided fully answering the question they had about how he ultimately ended up being eliminated as a suspect in the FBI kidnapping investigation, this was following his statement about the FBI contacting him because he was the first person they suspected in Jaycee's kidnapping (according to him). He tells them that the FBI visited him once and then that was it. Wow, I think we all know even as armchair/internet sleuths that's a pretty quick elimination. He must have done some really good convincing to the FBI that he had no past or present involvement or interest in her life.

 

[songline]

I think you misunderstood what flourish was asking... We both want to know if you can share the links that state Mr. Slayton would be happy to air any dirty laundry if he had any? Where are all the links to back up your accusations of him? Do you know him, personally, in order to make such harsh statements against his character? I just want the facts, that's all. Share them with us.

BTW, your linking my post in your post only cements the last sentence of that post... You can rant but you still have no hard evidence to back up what you're saying.:thumb:

No I did not,,,the conversation about him talking about JCs mom is your coversation.
I should not have even taken one bite into that conversation at all.
It is not my line of thinking, I really do not know why I replied to it.
You want it to make sense trace it back or drop it.
<THE END>

 

[kbl8201]

This is great and I would suggest that everyone, for and against Slayton's recent actions, listen to this interview. The interview starts at about the 17 minute mark of the broadcast. At about the 24 minute mark of the interview, Kennedy starts to ask him some tougher questions.

She and Suits first ask, why doesn't he just let this situation develop organically instead of pushing the matter through legal and media means? His response to this starts off by pretty much talking negatively about Terry/Susan, implying that his sudden reappearance in her life now after all these years is no different than how Terry "somehow managed" to keep Jaycee from him for 11 yrs and then sprung it on him in 1991 (via the FBI) that he was the father. Really? Um. Wow. I think we can also all agree that speaking in a negative manner towards the only biological parent that Jaycee has ever known (her mother) is not exactly going to endear him to her.
As JBean has pointed out, he also contradicted himself when asked how much effort he put into making contact with Jaycee. His immediate response is that he "didn't know she existed". But, then when confronted by Kennedy who mentions that she read an article where he discusses the mutual friend, he suddenly remembers that ..oh yeah, wait, I did know she existed...tried to make contact after that friend told me this, that, blah, blah. I also noticed that he did not mention the phone call from Terry/Susan that he received a month after their August 1979 encounter. I guess maybe he needed Kennedy or someone to remind him about that too. Speaking of that phone call....for those of you who think that Terry was hiding from him, do you think that if she had truly originally wanted to hide things from him that she would have even bothered calling him at all? How do you think that phone call played out?

He also really avoided fully answering the question they had about how he ultimately ended up being eliminated as a suspect in the FBI kidnapping investigation, this was following his statement about the FBI contacting him because he was the first person they suspected in Jaycee's kidnapping (according to him). He tells them that the FBI visited him once and then that was it. Wow, I think we all know even as armchair/internet sleuths that's a pretty quick elimination. He must have done some really good convincing to the FBI that he had no past or present involvement or interest in her life.

lmao wow talk about takling out his a**..........god this guy is such a freaking liar. now he says he didnt know she existed? 30 seconds after he said terry told him she looked just like him? do i look like an idiot?

 

[LillyRush]

You believe him? He would have been 23 when the kidnapping happened, and since his father was interviewed by the police, it is hard to think he wouldn't have know about it if he was still around, so clearly he wasn't. Keep in mind that Slayton was getting divorced when he had his fling with Dugard. That was 11 years earlier, so the son would have been 12 at the time. Obviously he lived with his mother after the divorce, that would explain the lack of knowledge.

Also, he doesnt have any full sisters, so a full sister couldnt have told him anything. Slayton remarried around the time Jaycee was born or soon after (another reason why the issue wouldn't have been pressed...it would have made things extremely complicated at a personal level). The two daughters are from his second wife, so they would be the brother's half sisters. They apparently had prior knowledge of Jaycee, however they thought she was dead. But since they were in a different family from the brother it was something that never came up in casual conversation.

Check out the press conference. Gloria Allred states that Kenneth has a son and daughter from his first marriage and two daughters from his second (current) marriage. So, yes, he does have a full blood sister who could have told him something.

 

[Imbackon]

You believe him? He would have been 23 when the kidnapping happened, and since his father was interviewed by the police, it is hard to think he wouldn't have know about it if he was still around, so clearly he wasn't. Keep in mind that Slayton was getting divorced when he had his fling with Dugard. That was 11 years earlier, so the son would have been 12 at the time. Obviously he lived with his mother after the divorce, that would explain the lack of knowledge.

Also, he doesnt have any full sisters, so a full sister couldnt have told him anything. Slayton remarried around the time Jaycee was born or soon after (another reason why the issue wouldn't have been pressed...it would have made things extremely complicated at a personal level). The two daughters are from his second wife, so they would be the brother's half sisters. They apparently had prior knowledge of Jaycee, however they thought she was dead. But since they were in a different family from the brother it was something that never came up in casual conversation.

You are wrong wrong wrong, on more levels than I can even write here!
Do you even know anything about this man you keep arguing for?

Now you call his son a liar! For what purpose would he lie?

Mr. Slayton had 2, COUNT THEM 2 children from his first marriage, a son and a daughter,
Get your facts straight.

 

[LillyRush]

Thanks for the full length, direct youtube link, Tizzle!

He was approached by the media to begin with. He didn't seek them out. And no he isn't a star, but he has been thrust into the spotlight as a result of his connection to Jaycee. I'm sure he wasn't approached by one media outlet and then left alone. That isn't how the paparazzi works. They hound any angle of every story, period.
The man is a United States Soldier/Vietnam War Veteran with a PURPLE HEART. Usually "crumbs" don't receive those. I thank him for his service and feel blessed that this hero was able to survive such an horrendous war in order to conceive another hero.

Have you watched to full Slayton Press Conference? Here ya go...

YouTube - Jaycee Dugard Kidnapping, Rape Case

 

[Natal]

Check out the press conference. Gloria Allred states that Kenneth has a son and daughter from his first marriage and two daughters from his second (current) marriage. So, yes, he does have full blood sister who could have told him something.

I was unaware of the third sister, but she would have been in the same situation as the brother, until someone else told her (likely one of the other sisters).

 

[Imbackon]

I was unaware of the third sister, but she would have been in the same situation as the brother, until someone else told her (likely one of the other sisters).

So, why didn't Mr. Slayton tell his children about their sister JC do you suppose?

 

[LillyRush]

If, in fact, Terry didn't want him to find her, doesn't it make sense that she would also cut off contact with the mutual friend? I didn't hear that he was given updates, only that he was contacted by the mutual friend when Jaycee was born when they said she looked like him?

Why did Terry call him a month later to tell him that she was pregnant? If she had no intention at all of trying to include him, then it would have been very easy (according to his casual referral to their time as a "fling" and by Allred as an "affair") for her not to have called him at all. I would imagine that was not an easy phone call. What do you think he may have said to her during that phone call? Do you think that perhaps his reaction and the things he said during the phone call could have played a role in how she later chose to handle contact or lack thereof with him?

 

[kbl8201]

So, why didn't Mr. Slayton tell his children about their sister JC do you suppose?

like i said. i feel for jaycees half sibilngs here, but ken slayton sr created this mess. and it's not jaycee's job to clean it up for him.........
i really think his kids mean well though. but they need to give jaycee space and time

 

[LillyRush]

I agree.

It paints a better picture to claim he lost touch rather than admit he didn't care enough to look her up when she was a baby. Avoiding child support sounds reasonable.

There was a reason Terry didn't contact him about Jaycee when she was born. Terry was willing to go it alone and he was more than willing to let her. He made no effort to contact Jaycee until now. Actions speak louder than words and, to me, his actions are very self serving.

When and if Jaycee wants to go public should be her choice and her choice alone.

I totally agree that it will and should ultimately be her choice. That is why I think he needs to stop talking to the media, no matter how much he or his lawyer feels that it might be necessary. He has already had instances of contradicting himself and playing the martyr with his implications that Terry made it hard for him to make contact. It is obvious that Jaycee's maternal side of the family doesn't think highly of him and her lawyer is already calling him an opportunist (per the Kennedy and Suits radio broadcast). I really think he needs to start laying low and then let Jaycee make the final decision.

 

[Natal]

lmao wow talk about takling out his a**..........god this guy is such a freaking liar. now he says he didnt know she existed? 30 seconds after he said terry told him she looked just like him? do i look like an idiot?

You do realize this happened 30 years ago, not yesterday, right? Of course he is going to be sketchy on the details. I'm pretty damned sure that I wouldn't remember ANY details like that 30 years down the road. Lets see, 1980, what was I doing in 1980? I was in University then, final year. I remember general details of important events, like they happened for instance, but sure as hell not what people said or when they said it or who said it. Lets do a test. Could you please recount a conversation you had in 1980? Accurately please, know the exact words and nuances too. See? If you look at it objectively you understand how silly that kind of thing is.

Plus, he's a truck driver(?), not a TV celeb. He is likely nervous and anxious.

The bottom line is that 30 years ago he was getting divorced, had a 2 week fling with a young woman, then got involved in another long term relationship. Somewhere inbetween a baby appeared, which may or may not have been his. Remember, in those days there was no DNA testing, paternity depended on what the mother said, and if she declined to say then he had nothing other than a maybe. Couple that in with his old family and his new family, and all the obligations that go with that, what the hell was the guy supposed to do? That is a complicated situation to be in. That would have changed when Jaycee got abducted, because then the mother named him as the father in the investigation and things would have become more certain. But by then it was too late to get involved, because she was gone and in all probability dead (that is what usally happens in those cases).

Seriously, you guys need to go look up the word "empathy", because not too many of you have it.

 

[Natal]

So, why didn't Mr. Slayton tell his children about their sister JC do you suppose?

Because those children weren't in his household. He was divorced remember.

 

[kbl8201]

You do realize this happened 30 years ago, not yesterday, right? Of course he is going to be sketchy on the details. I'm pretty damned sure that I wouldn't remember ANY details like that 30 years down the road. Lets see, 1980, what was I doing in 1980? I was in University then, final year. I remember general details of important events, like they happened for instance, but sure as hell not what people said or when they said it or who said it. Lets do a test. Could you please recount a conversation you had in 1980? Accurately please, know the exact words and nuances too. See? If you look at it objectively you understand how silly that kind of thing is.

Plus, he's a truck driver(?), not a TV celeb. He is likely nervous and anxious.

The bottom line is that 30 years ago he was getting divorced, had a 2 week fling with a young woman, then got involved in another long term relationship. Somewhere inbetween a baby appeared, which may or may not have been his. Remember, in those days there was no DNA testing, paternity depended on what the mother said, and if she declined to say then he had nothing other than a maybe. Couple that in with his old family and his new family, and all the obligations that go with that, what the hell was the guy supposed to do? That is a complicated situation to be in. That would have changed when Jaycee got abducted, because then the mother named him as the father in the investigation and things would have become more certain. But by then it was too late to get involved, because she was gone and in all probability dead (that is what usally happens in those cases).

Seriously, you guys need to go look up the word "empathy", because not too many of you have it.

again. more excuses. you guys never seem to run out of them for ken.

i have plenty of empathy. i have empathy for terry who lost her daughter for 2 thirds of kaycee's life. i have empathy for carl who was basically labeled a child murderer. i have empathy for shayna who lost her big sister befoe seh een knew her. i have empathy for aunt tina who lost her niece......i even have empathy for ken's kids who lost the half sister they never knew they had.
but they lost her, not cause of what garrido did, but what there own dadd did. and no, i dont have any empathy for him.

 

[LillyRush]

Natal, Kennedy and Suits were not asking him any trick questions or to recall anything that he hadn't already brought to the public's attention in very recent news interviews/articles.

 

[LillyRush]

I was unaware of the third sister, but she would have been in the same situation as the brother, until someone else told her (likely one of the other sisters).

It's unclear to me whether the son and daughter from his first marriage are even close to the daughters from his second marriage. There appears to be quite a big age difference, with them being in their early 40s and the younger daughters being 21 and 25 yrs old. They (the kids from the 1st marriage) were also not at the press conference with him. So, I don't know who told the older one or whether she even talks to his two younger daughters.

 

[Imbackon]

Honestly, all these posts with far reaching excuses for Mr. Slayton have done for me is amplify negativity toward what I previous just assumed was a man who decided to dis a daughter he had with a woman that he barely knew, to turning him into a monster in my mind.
He now in my mind has become someone who is probably estranged from his first family, and probably never supported them much, keeps lots of secrets and is now selfishly trying to catch on to the gravy train he thinks is comin his way.

 

[Openmind]

I watched the posted news conference and from Allred's own mouth she said Ken didn't know if the baby was his and since Terry didn't contact him he pretty much blew her off. He never bothered to tell his four children about Jaycee or her kidnapping. Being divorced is no excuse. And what is this sudden desire to be the man in her life -- give me a break. He has a pretty inflated view of himself if he thinks he can come into her life to rectify all her suffering.

And what does it matter that Jaycee's middle name is Lee and so are his daughters' -- they are younger than Jaycee and until the day Jaycee was recovered, none of these people knew of each other's existence. BTW --my daughter's middle name is Lee but that does not make her Ken's relative.

Ken needs to back away from the camera and take another look at himself and his demands. There may actually be some sincerity that he cares about Jaycee, but this is not the time to push any supposed paternity claims little more rights. As they said over and over, they all have representatives. He could have contacted Jaycee without this dog and pony show. Again, Jaycee owes him NOTHING, and if he truly cared he would withdraw any "demands" and let her decide if and when she wants to contact him. That just may be never, and since he chose to ignore her when he had the chance to be a part of her life, he will have to suck it up and accept whatever she decides.

 

[kbl8201]

I watched the posted news conference and from Allred's own mouth she said Ken didn't know if the baby was his and since Terry didn't contact him he pretty much blew her off. He never bothered to tell his four children about Jaycee or her kidnapping. Being divorced is no excuse. And what is this sudden desire to be the man in her life -- give me a break. He has a pretty inflated view of himself if he thinks he can come into her life to rectify all her suffering.

And what does it matter that Jaycee's middle name is Lee and so are his daughters' -- they are younger than Jaycee and until the day Jaycee was recovered, none of these people knew of each other's existence. BTW --my daughter's middle name is Lee but that does not make her Ken's relative.

Ken needs to back away from the camera and take another look at himself and his demands. There may actually be some sincerity that he cares about Jaycee, but this is not the time to push any supposed paternity claims little more rights. As they said over and over, they all have representatives. He could have contacted Jaycee without this dog and pony show. Again, Jaycee owes him NOTHING, and if he truly cared he would withdraw any "demands" and let her decide if and when she wants to contact him. That just may be never, and since he chose to ignore her when he had the chance to be a part of her life, he will have to suck it up and accept whatever she decides.

if he cares about jaycee like he claims he does, he would back off.